Storage Solutions WD Caviar Green 1TB

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Just to clear the air a little bit; my machine's config is in my siggy. As you can see it has a 320 GB HDD which is used as the primary hdd for OS :) This will be used for storage only and maybe performance will be needed only when someone drops by to get or drop off some data. And anyway since ppl bring USB drives I do not think that the HDD will bottleneck; coz USB speeds suck way beyond the HDD speeds :bleh:
 
Here's a screenie of HDTach benchmark I ran on my drive when Quaddy wanted to get one ...

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not that bad imo ... I've got 5 WD drives in the recent past, including a couple of 1TB's and every one of them is running nice, cool and quite.

Although do remember that on it's day any HDD can crash :P
 
Thanks for the HDD score man. I have 2 7200.11 drives and both of them posted a score of 134.5 and 134.3 respectively. Does it mean I am doing something wrong or something. Both the HDD's were on the SATA1 mode.
 
^ are you talking about burst speed or avg speed ?? If it's avg speed then thats great, burst speed is useless.
 
Problem with huge disks is rather simple.
Large disks have huge on disk buffers where all your write operations get stored before they are actually written to on disk by the disk controller.

What a write constitutes is of even more importance to know. It can contain 3 things -
1. Data
2. Data about your data called as metadata.
3. Data + metadata.

When there is a sudden power outage the buffer may or may not have been written properly. Usually filesystems will have repairing capabilities but do you trust your disk controller firmware? :)

Larger the on disk buffer, more risk of loosing data. What if that data is extremely important for you. You are in soup.

Imagine saving a doc you created for some important business proposition and saved it and a power cut out resulted in empty file. Nast....ewww??

Off course this does not mean you ll face it but taking things for granted is not good is what I am saying. Unless off course I have been living under rock, in that case please correct me freely. :)

PS:- I keep sensitive data on a small buffer disk and non imp data on a 1 TB Caviar black.
 
^^ A person running HDDs in RAID would obviously be running a UPS as well.. Even the smallest one, right? Just to save the data and quit? IMO, running your PC without a UPS in India is foolishness and 32MB write buffer worth of data will be your last concern as the disk itself can crash.
 
^^ What use is a UPS when you get power cuts in your absence for more time than what UPS can guarrantee?

That is my whole point.

Please define disk crash?
 
thexfactor said:
^ are you talking about burst speed or avg speed ?? If it's avg speed then thats great, burst speed is useless.
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Ok the burst speed is crappy but the avg speed is a little better on the 7200.11 drives. But who cares... I mean that small a lag is hardly noticeable.

@Rest of the ppl: Please refrain from going away from the topic and talking about power failures and stuff. Please stick to the topic which is about failing HDD's (on their own and not due to power surges) Thanks !!!
 
The Seagate 7200.12 is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED. Read last month's PC World dude..

If u still want to stick ur face on WD Caviar Green, then go ahead!
 
^^Care to elaborate? Not everybody here thinks that PC world is a bible or something. An excerpt or something to support your advice would be appreciated.

@OP, for storage, you just can't get anything better than a WD green. Cheap storage@lower power consumption+lower speeds should do something for the longevity (one of my assumptions about all mechanical devices :cool2:).

@blufox, I'd rep you just for your ingenuity :rofl:! My god, most of the data stored in India is at risk! Just realised something, all the high performance desktop drives have large buffers too :O ! I tell you, doomsday is nigh..........................
.....NOT! :bleh:

Sorry@OP, couldn't resist :P!
 
^^^^^^^^^^Dude, I'm only giving reference.

CHIp, ThinkDigit and even online reviews support Seagate 7200.12 for the stellar performance with price bang and no, no one complained about dammned firmware problems
 
Naga said:
@OP, for storage, you just can't get anything better than a WD green. Cheap storage@lower power consumption+lower speeds should do something for the longevity (one of my assumptions about all mechanical devices :cool2:).
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I so agree with ya.. if the heat dissipation and power usage goes down then I'm game to go for these drives... :)

comp@ddict said:
CHIp, ThinkDigit and even online reviews support Seagate 7200.12 for the stellar performance with price bang and no, no one complained about damned firmware problems
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Ok Chip and Digit suck at their reviews through and through. I have a feeling that the company that gets the best award pays it way through.. that is what they had come to quite some time back. Since then I never bought digit or chip and mind you this is quite sometime back. I would rather read online articles than pay for useless $h!t. Anyway am not asking you to believe in my view..

On to the topic WD Caviar Green it is then folks...
 
Naga said:
@blufox, I'd rep you just for your ingenuity :rofl:! My god, most of the data stored in India is at risk! Just realised something, all the high performance desktop drives have large buffers too :O ! I tell you, doomsday is nigh..........................
.....NOT! :bleh:

Sorry@OP, couldn't resist :P!
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You can laugh at me, no issues :).

I fight with 10 machines each with min of 32GB of ram and one with max 128GB of RAM, all these machines have fibrechannel storage with varied capacity, max being of 10 TB storage in RAID 6 config to avoid any silent data corruption.There is a reason to use tolerate high write overhead of RAID 6 config for such high storage.
If you feel like studying these things, please muscle your way through how journalling filesystems and file recovery works when a controller firmware was given jerky power supply or when firmware was buggy. Also if possible try to study on how RAID configs behave in case an incorrect offset is written on disk and corresponding metadata is not updated, especially how RAID setups can silently kill your data with incorrect parity.

OT : Taking technology for granted makes us complacent and results in bad choices sometimes.

Good luck and Godspeed.
 
blufox said:
You can laugh at me, no issues :).

I fight with 10 machines each with min of 32GB of ram and one with max 128GB of RAM, all these machines have fibrechannel storage with varied capacity, max being of 10 TB storage in RAID 6 config to avoid any silent data corruption.There is a reason to use tolerate high write overhead of RAID 6 config for such high storage.
If you feel like studying these things, please muscle your way through how journalling filesystems and file recovery works when a controller firmware was given jerky power supply or when firmware was buggy. Also if possible try to study on how RAID configs behave in case an incorrect offset is written on disk and corresponding metadata is not updated, especially how RAID setups can silently kill your data with incorrect parity.

OT : Taking technology for granted makes us complacent and results in bad choices sometimes.

Good luck and Godspeed.
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Chill dude... its ok. As I have said before I cannot justify the RAID setup for my machine coz I do not have mission critical data :) And I do backup my data on a external drive; so chill. You can take this RAID thingy on a separate thread.
On to the topic: My vendor told me that the WD Green 1 TB drives are not available in Pune; I was like :| Does anyone know any vendors who have this stuff ??
 
Oh I am chill only yaar :P.

Just gave a legit reply.

@Naga Bro, UPS is a solution for sure, I agree but we cannot be sure behind our back when time for power cut exceeds what UPS can guarantee, thats the original worry. :)

Don't worry no data will perhaps get corrupted ... but ... :)
 
djmykey said:
On to the topic: My vendor told me that the WD Green 1 TB drives are not available in Pune; I was like :| Does anyone know any vendors who have this stuff ??
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Get it from the TE dealers here. Or you can buy from ebay using coupon to get it cheaper.

And yes, WD Green 1 TB is a good choice.
 
It's available in Nehru Place (Delhi) @ SMC International a few units that is. I checked them out two days back.. He did have a few. :)
 
Umm.. I'm a little skeptical about shipping an internal HDD. Its not the people dont pack it properly or anything but I'm just scared... its just me :ashamed: Am still checking out if anyone has it locally...
 
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