Kaleen Bhaiya
Skilled
Well, the charging went up from 75% to 83% max. But it was way too slow to charge. Something's still not right. Need to check this with W10 now that I did a fresh install of W11 with not much visible improvements.
Laptops Weird issue with Laptop battery
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Just curious, when you first tried out win11, did you do a fresh install, or an in-place upgrade? Sometimes doing the inplace upgrade retains any chipset drivers used by windows 10, and if those are unsupported then it gets the drivers from microsoft servers (though AFAIK there are ways to prevent this).
Also, have you tried out linux? In my new laptop (Dell Inspiron 14, 12th gen i3 and 8 GB RAM), windows 11 eats up ~ 4 GB RAM when idle, while endeavorOS (i use arch btw) with gnome desktop uses ~1.8 GB RAM. So much RAM for my firefox tabs /s
If you are watching videos and occasionally editing documents, linux might well be worth a try. You could start off with Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
Also, have you tried out linux? In my new laptop (Dell Inspiron 14, 12th gen i3 and 8 GB RAM), windows 11 eats up ~ 4 GB RAM when idle, while endeavorOS (i use arch btw) with gnome desktop uses ~1.8 GB RAM. So much RAM for my firefox tabs /s
If you are watching videos and occasionally editing documents, linux might well be worth a try. You could start off with Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
StygianClaw
Disciple
Did you check if any battery care feature got turned on somehow? Either in the BIOS or through some HP software.
enthusiast29
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It's always recommended to avoid drivers from windows update and use the ones from component manufacturer (not the same as OEM). This means if you have say an HP laptop which has Realtek sound IC or network IC then use the latest drivers directly from Realtek. Similarly for Intel chipset use the ones downloaded from Intel and same for other components.
Drivers from Microsoft have caused enough havocs and there are plenty scary stories on the internet.
I generally use a driver pack such as snappy driver installer for a whole repository of drivers for any kind of x86 hardware. It has all the latest drivers.
Drivers from Microsoft have caused enough havocs and there are plenty scary stories on the internet.
I generally use a driver pack such as snappy driver installer for a whole repository of drivers for any kind of x86 hardware. It has all the latest drivers.
Kaleen Bhaiya
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I always do a fresh install whenever I am installing any OS, just to remove any compatibility issues(W11 has many).
This would be the way to go post 2025 when W10 officially retires. I Already have it in my pipeline to start using it on a virtual machine to get a hang of it before I decide to adopt it as my primary OS.
I too had this in my mind. But my BIOS has no such setting. While Installing drivers downloaded from HP website, I don't think it has any software which supports battery care.
The thing is MS insists on connecting to wifi during installation and in that process, it grabs drivers from windows update rather than not downloading any drivers. Cannot even cancel those updates. Is there any way to install W11 without internet?
This was the reason I asked from where drivers were installed from in one of the above posts. MS has known to screw up rather than help. For instance, the Synaptics touchpad drivers it downloaded for my W11 doesn't support scrolling through the pad. I will have to use the drivers from HP site for Synaptics W10 to get the scrolling feature enabled.
sdi-tool.org won't work. Any support for x64? No Driver Pack solution please. It's a mess.
enthusiast29
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Yeah I tried before posting it was down not sure why... By x86 hardware I meant the x86 family which includes x64 as well.
If you don't want driver packs your only way is to download manually one by one from each component manufacturer website.
Kaleen Bhaiya
Skilled
By Driver Pack i, I meant DP as a software and not driver pack in general. The DP software I used for some old machines in my office had lot of unwanted software installed if not kept an eye on.
StygianClaw
Disciple
If you use Rufus, after choosing the ISO and the external USB device press start. It will ask for additional options (PFA screenshot). Select "Remove requirement for Microsoft Account". Now you can just create a local account and install the drivers you want, turn off windows update etc. before connecting to the internet.
I would consider it in a more pragmatic way. For old hardware, reference or OEM drivers may not respect the new driver frameworks that the latest Windows version expects. For example, the touchpad issue you mentioned might have happened because the gesture implementation in the HP Synaptic drivers is considered non-standard compared to the Windows precision drivers introduced later. It may not have passed validation for distribution through Windows update channels. So a generic driver without gesture support which was validated might have been installed instead.
Non-compliant drivers can potentially cause severe issues. So, the drivers from Windows update, while not the newest or feature complete are more likely to be stable for older hardware that is considered EoL by OEMs and device manufacturers. If you are troubleshooting issues, it is not a bad idea to use them to check if the hardware is functioning without major problems. After establishing a baseline expectation, you can install newer or specialised drivers from the respective OEMs or Device manufacturers.
Of course, there are cases like where the customised implementations of certain hardware in laptops absolutely need the OEM drivers (Although it's a terrible thing for long-term driver support and newer laptops avoid this as much as possible). No harm in trying both in a process of elimination to see what works for you.
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Kaleen Bhaiya
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I did check the second option. And while it did not ask for MS account, it wanted me to connect to net. And there was no way I could bypass this as all options were greyed out. Selecting wifi or internet was the only way forward to continue with the setup.
enthusiast29
Skilled
Method 1:
While being offline during setup when you land on OOBE screen (first screen when PC is restarted and user input is needed)
- Press Shift+F10 to open command prompt.
- Type OOBE\BYPASSNRO and hit enter.
PC will reboot and take you to same screen but you'll have an option to skip online account now.
Method 2 if you are online:
- When entering email address use this email "no@thankyou.com", type any password and click next.
- There will be some error and then clicking next you will have local account creation screen.
While being offline during setup when you land on OOBE screen (first screen when PC is restarted and user input is needed)
- Press Shift+F10 to open command prompt.
- Type OOBE\BYPASSNRO and hit enter.
PC will reboot and take you to same screen but you'll have an option to skip online account now.
Method 2 if you are online:
- When entering email address use this email "no@thankyou.com", type any password and click next.
- There will be some error and then clicking next you will have local account creation screen.
Kaleen Bhaiya
Skilled
MS never asked for logging into my MS account as I had already skipped that provision while creating a bootable through Rufus. It asked me to connect to the net to check for updates. No option to skip that part. Anyway to bypass this internet requirement during installation?
Edit- NVM, I found that the command can be used to skip net requirement during setup.
@enthusiast29 @StygianClaw and others..
So I installed W10 on my system last night. Some observations.
1. The battery would charge fast maybe upto 60-70% then it would literally drag to go upto 80 and beyond. It went max upto 87% before sleep.
2. I switched off and put it to charge. It charged to 100%(amber to white light).
3. Then did a usual run on laptop from 6am to 8am by running YT, a movie for 15 mins. The battery drain was acceptable compared to W11 and age of the battery.
4. I did update the drivers from HP(depending on respective company)and for those which were not available, I took from Windows update.
5. I charged my battery yesterday morning upto 80% and in the evening when I powered it on, the battery already fell to 74% despite being switched off. This was on W11. Something's definitely wrong.
I wonder if some sensor is broken or corrupted because both W10,11 are taking a good amount of time to charge beyond 70% when laptop is on. If it's a feature introduced with updates to reduce battery strain, then it's ok. Coz earlier it wouldn't take this much time to charge.
Edit- NVM, I found that the command can be used to skip net requirement during setup.
@enthusiast29 @StygianClaw and others..
So I installed W10 on my system last night. Some observations.
1. The battery would charge fast maybe upto 60-70% then it would literally drag to go upto 80 and beyond. It went max upto 87% before sleep.
2. I switched off and put it to charge. It charged to 100%(amber to white light).
3. Then did a usual run on laptop from 6am to 8am by running YT, a movie for 15 mins. The battery drain was acceptable compared to W11 and age of the battery.
4. I did update the drivers from HP(depending on respective company)and for those which were not available, I took from Windows update.
5. I charged my battery yesterday morning upto 80% and in the evening when I powered it on, the battery already fell to 74% despite being switched off. This was on W11. Something's definitely wrong.
I wonder if some sensor is broken or corrupted because both W10,11 are taking a good amount of time to charge beyond 70% when laptop is on. If it's a feature introduced with updates to reduce battery strain, then it's ok. Coz earlier it wouldn't take this much time to charge.
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