Krav Maga is a very violent sport and I would say expect to get hurt in sparring, I personally take Muay-Thai. This is Thai kickboxing and is relatively easy to pickup... also a bit rough .. but less so than Krav Maga. For a well rounded skill set, I would also suggest traditional boxing too. I have trained in(and still do) in all of these (except Krav Maga)and also traditional Karate and Judo. go for the kickboxing, it is an all around good sport and workout and teaches you equally well with hands and feet.
Which form of martial arts is easiest/quickest to learn?
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Party Monger
Innovator
Kick boxing? What are the ideal situations it can be used in?
BTW thanks for the reply, you really are a man of many talents..
BTW thanks for the reply, you really are a man of many talents..
Bluffmaster
Explorer
Join Indian defense or Police forces or carry a Gun. But the former is recommended since then you will have the license to kill. 
BTW, I have a doubt. People who know martial arts, can they really fight 5-10 people at a time like they show in the movies? I have seen a serial on Discovery where these dudes go to different countries and learn their martial arts, I forgot the name of the show but its pretty interesting.
BTW, I have a doubt. People who know martial arts, can they really fight 5-10 people at a time like they show in the movies? I have seen a serial on Discovery where these dudes go to different countries and learn their martial arts, I forgot the name of the show but its pretty interesting.
Bluffmaster said:
They can, if the other fighters have no knowledge of proper fighting/self defense techniques, all it takes is a lightning fast touch of a finger to any weakspots in your body (such as your throat, beneath your jaw, eyepokes, etc) to send you crying in pain or even kill you..doesn't matter how big or strong you are. Most Martial Artist's don't go to such lengths in any fight though but to save their life they will. And Bruce Lee did such dirty tactics even in professional matches. Ask Chuck Norris..seriously
But ofcourse its a different thing when the thugs are also properly skilled in martial arts, and gang up on you from all sides at the very same time, no matter how skilled you will be overpowered (unless you have a weapon and have lightning fast reflexes). Not many MA movies from Hong Kong with the big actors (Bruce, Jackie, Jet) even show such kind of unrealism anyways. Its their Hollywood movies that are on the unrealistic levels.
My suggestion would be to go to a Tai Chi class. Knew a master in Chennai once personally and from that time have been in awe of this little known martial arts form of Tai Chi. Lot of people still think it is only a bunch of slow arm moving exercise 
But it is more of grappling and defensive martial art than being purely offensive.
But it is more of grappling and defensive martial art than being purely offensive.Party Monger said:
Thai kickboxing (Muay-Thai) is very attack oriented although defense is still learned too. I would say you can use thai kb in pretty much any situation as it involves different moves for close up fighting too. The moves are devastating and can be quite brutal as well. There are no belt systems in the classes I take it is all very practical stuff, but you will find yourself very challenged, so if you do not want to work your body very hard... it is not for you. It is not unrealistic for me to have to do somewhere between 100-200 situps in an hour long class as well as 50 -100 kicks per leg and bag work too. My instructor tends to mix it up so sometime we will spar and sometimes a little bag work... but you never soar with s We always start the class with 10 mins of jump rope to warm up.
Taekwondo is amazing!! 
I used to attend training/classes when I was in 9th or 10th!
really easy to pick up imo! (if you are flixible enough -> Added bonus + gets you the edge over others)
I really used to hate the part when the instructor made random people of the training group fight against each other!
Once I had to fight this girl!
I was defensive only initially, as I thought it would be inappropriate to hit a girl.
but it made her bolder and she began to really treat me like a punching/kicking bag( I was blocking well though)
soon my hands began to hurt due to the blocks and I just retaliated with a master kick on her left shoulder and 'bam'! I won! :rofl:
Taekwondo and many other variants of martial arts teach techniques to disarm a person.
If you are trained well enough, disarming a person with a knife/gun(@close range) is a cakewalk!
+ advanced techniques include weapons training like nunchuk!
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And the training I'm most intrigued by is that of a Ninja.
It not only teaches you special techniques (including lethal stuff) but also 'stealth'
Most awesome weapons - katana and throwing stars or Shuriken!
I used to attend training/classes when I was in 9th or 10th!
really easy to pick up imo! (if you are flixible enough -> Added bonus + gets you the edge over others)
I really used to hate the part when the instructor made random people of the training group fight against each other!
Once I had to fight this girl!
I was defensive only initially, as I thought it would be inappropriate to hit a girl.
but it made her bolder and she began to really treat me like a punching/kicking bag( I was blocking well though)
soon my hands began to hurt due to the blocks and I just retaliated with a master kick on her left shoulder and 'bam'! I won! :rofl:
blr_p said:
Taekwondo and many other variants of martial arts teach techniques to disarm a person.
If you are trained well enough, disarming a person with a knife/gun(@close range) is a cakewalk!
+ advanced techniques include weapons training like nunchuk!
============================================
And the training I'm most intrigued by is that of a Ninja.
It not only teaches you special techniques (including lethal stuff) but also 'stealth'
Most awesome weapons - katana and throwing stars or Shuriken!
YoGi-Sama
Forerunner
Although I understand your reasoning for defense... I personally favor avoiding confrontation at all cost, unless I have to resort to self-defense. The thing about fighting is that it never stops at one fight. Say, I fought a guy and came out on top... sadly, tomorrow he will come back with more people and beat the crap out of me. I can't let it slide cause now it's no more just conflict, it's now my pride on the line. So it goes on and on.
Off-course I'm not saying that one shouldn't learn martial arts, rather, I would personally pick-up something that gives me solid defense. Couple of offensive moves when it's REALLY requires, but I would prefer defending myself better and get out of the situation.
I would agree with PixelPusher, kick-boxing seem to be good option. I personally haven't learned it, but I knew a friend from college who did. According to him, although it has some really hurtful offensive moves... overall it teaches you to better guard yourself. Once you can block nastiest KB moves you've learned yourself really good defenses.
One of my old senior colleague was Taekwondo master at national level. According to him, you need to use more head in Taekwondo than just physical strength. If you're smart person, you'd use your opponent's strength against him rather than going all-out attacking.
Off-course I'm not saying that one shouldn't learn martial arts, rather, I would personally pick-up something that gives me solid defense. Couple of offensive moves when it's REALLY requires, but I would prefer defending myself better and get out of the situation.
I would agree with PixelPusher, kick-boxing seem to be good option. I personally haven't learned it, but I knew a friend from college who did. According to him, although it has some really hurtful offensive moves... overall it teaches you to better guard yourself. Once you can block nastiest KB moves you've learned yourself really good defenses.
One of my old senior colleague was Taekwondo master at national level. According to him, you need to use more head in Taekwondo than just physical strength. If you're smart person, you'd use your opponent's strength against him rather than going all-out attacking.
gizmoholic
Contributor
6pack said:
Or rather, what if, they too are reading this thread
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blr_p
Northstar
iGo said:
Exactly, if this happens to be the route you commute on, they pick the time & place
One has to be able to think a few steps ahead.
iGo said:
Absolutely. Thing is ppl dont pick up martial arts for self-defense, they do it as a sport to become good at and perhaps take part in competitions. Self-defense is merely a side benefit and NOT the main motivation. With this frame of mind you would work harder and stay motivated longer. Competitive fights are worth getting into because they follow rules, are refereed, have a clear reward as well as closure compared to open-anything-goes street fights of uncertain outcome and no one watching your back.
Tho a self-defense class for starters would be general enough to give a rough grounding. It would not take too long and would mostly be defensive in nature for a few months at best. It's main focus would be on what PM wanted not on learning how to be offensive. I think a good class should also include evasive tactics as avoiding a fight is better than defending against one.
After that you could choose to specialise in a sport of your choice.
iGo said:
All sports are like this, head matters 90% the rest is physical.
Unless one is a bouncer, cop or someone that intentionally puts themselves in harms way, i bet 9 times out of 10 its possible to get away without any fight at all. In that sense learning how to evade a fight is more valuable than being able to actually fight. Broadly speaking its using wits & psychology to avoid getting into a fight in the first place. Point is to cut down on the lousy 50-50. So fewer fights is better in this case.
The friend i mentioned earlier is fairly big, these types of ppl get challenged more because someone wants to prove to himself that he can take them on. So most of the times they avoid the fights with cunning & humour and only ever get into ones they have no choice about. Humour is much better than cunning, if you can crack jokes when your life's at stake it says a lot about one's state of mind.
You are deciding who to fight rather than being forced into it. Its taking control away from the attacker. Can someone force you to fight if you are unwilling ?
What's really strange with OP's request is he mentions 'agressive' ppl. I did not take this to mean muggers, ie they want your ipod or cash, but basically ppl that are out to beat you up -- ie rowdies with records who have nothing to lose !!
Avoiding muggers is not too hard, stay out of dodgy areas, avoid unecessary eye contact, don't dress too conspicuously, being aware of your surroundings, in short being street smart.
Pepper spray, ever consider that ?..not just for women, cops in the US also make use of it. And finally there is RUNNING, how fast can you run and how far. He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.
Oh yeah, so how about with two persons ?sohail99 said:If you are trained well enough, disarming a person with a knife/gun(@close range) is a cakewalk!
2-3 is a safe grouping for thugs to be in, acts as a force multiplier, the 2-3 together is more than the sum of the indivdual parts. Even if you are a kung-fu master they will still have good chances to cut you. You might have KO'd them but you have 2 hrs to get help or you are finished, in this sense its easier sometimes to survive being shot than stabbed. We are not in the west, how long is the response time for emergency services ?
Unless you know WHO & WHAT you are up against its not worth getting into a fight and even still not worth it after.
being a little ot here but the only reason i wanted to learn any type of martial arts was after seeing a movie on that subject. or after having a heated confrontation in the local train. But a few days down the line i forget it.
i used to do some taekwondo warm up exercises at home. makes you feel like you have a lot of energy imo.
the exercises were from the Taekwondo 3rd edition book which is available as free pdf download i think.
i used to do some taekwondo warm up exercises at home. makes you feel like you have a lot of energy imo.
the exercises were from the Taekwondo 3rd edition book which is available as free pdf download i think.
Vasishta.Sushant
Forerunner
Going with this thread, I'd suggest you to go for Judo. It primarily targets control of your movements and avert the opponents movements in your favour.
The other ones require much more training since they comprise of a bigger component of strength training, which doesn't come so easily. You got to practice.
You can learn how to kick but if you do not have strength, it doesn't matter.
Judo on the other hand can help you learn basic moves that can simply paralyze your opponent, using NOT SO FANCY moves.
Having said that, I would still repeat that Martial Arts is about practice and dedication. I suggested Judo, since it is more apt for your cause, but in no way it is to be treated as easier to learn. You will have to put in time.
And if you actually be a student of martial arts, you will learn to train your mind more than your body (its easier said than done). Learning to be "still" needs much more training and strength than getting into the fight.
The other ones require much more training since they comprise of a bigger component of strength training, which doesn't come so easily. You got to practice.
You can learn how to kick but if you do not have strength, it doesn't matter.
Judo on the other hand can help you learn basic moves that can simply paralyze your opponent, using NOT SO FANCY moves.
Having said that, I would still repeat that Martial Arts is about practice and dedication. I suggested Judo, since it is more apt for your cause, but in no way it is to be treated as easier to learn. You will have to put in time.
And if you actually be a student of martial arts, you will learn to train your mind more than your body (its easier said than done). Learning to be "still" needs much more training and strength than getting into the fight.
foruamit2004
Discoverer
During my school life I always wanted to learn martial art(I was very shy/honest/inocent ) and didn't like the fact that I can't fight with people, but my father never allowed me. I told him what if someone wants to rob you, he said that let him be, it will happen only once or twice in your life, better give your money instead of fighting, they may have knife and all. But after schooling I moved to a different city away from home. I did many things that even no one in my native place knows about.
just for a note - we 3 people (all non martial guys, I'm weakest one by physic) had taken down a black belter.. my friend saw an opportunity and hit him hard in the face. he lost control for a moment, then after that we literally kicked/punched him like 50 times, but atleast by learning martial art you can take more damage then others
Now even I've changed a bit, I feel that I don't even have the time to waste over unnecessary arguments. their are many things in life to enjoy rather then fighting. the only reason I would learn any martial art is because it makes your body strong and healthy as well as your Mind. You have more juice in your body to do adventures stuffs.
) and didn't like the fact that I can't fight with people, but my father never allowed me. I told him what if someone wants to rob you, he said that let him be, it will happen only once or twice in your life, better give your money instead of fighting, they may have knife and all. But after schooling I moved to a different city away from home. I did many things that even no one in my native place knows about. just for a note - we 3 people (all non martial guys, I'm weakest one by physic) had taken down a black belter.. my friend saw an opportunity and hit him hard in the face. he lost control for a moment, then after that we literally kicked/punched him like 50 times
, but atleast by learning martial art you can take more damage then others Now even I've changed a bit, I feel that I don't even have the time to waste over unnecessary arguments. their are many things in life to enjoy rather then fighting. the only reason I would learn any martial art is because it makes your body strong and healthy as well as your Mind. You have more juice in your body to do adventures stuffs.