Whiny baby cries again............

[Shripad]

The entire season has been great so far and is doing very well even without him. So, I can't tolerate people coming in and ruining every post match discussion with their nostalgic nonsense which only serves to sidetrack from the present scenario and depreciate the sport in it's current form.

Then make a separate thread where all you Schumi fans can fantasize about him all you want. There's no need to derail a thread that isn't even about him.

sorry m8 but who are you to tell anyone not to talk about someone. Its public forum and a thread is created by me and i am fine with any damn F1 racer's name thrown in here. And even i cannot control the flow of this thread. Thats what public forum means.

If you dont like it, you are free to ignore any thread but you cant control what you want to hear or not. The same way i dont like the schumi trashing that goes on by some people but cant do anything, you have to tolerate this :tongue:

P.S : Just to irritate u more. Schumacher is better than any one racing this season . pssssssssssssssssssttttttttttt.

 

[Apex]

P.S : Just to irritate u more. Schumacher is better than any one racing this season . pssssssssssssssssssttttttttttt.

gotta disagree with u on that,,,

he was beaten by smone called 'whiny baby' alonso two years in a row hyeah:

 

[Ck Nish]

I like how you conveniently ignored every point of mine and got right down to the point of politely telling me to shut up.

So what you're saying is that you approve of derailing threads by supporting the bringing up of inane blather over and over? In other words - trolling? That's nice.

Just to irritate u more. Schumacher is better than any one racing this season . pssssssssssssssssssttttttttttt.

Schumi doesn't bother me at all. People who bring him up at every turn and degrade the sport by citing he is no longer a part of it do, and I will continue bashing Schumi and with even greater ferocity every time he is brought up where he doesn't belong.

 

[Shripad]

Ok then let me irritate u more( as according to u its people who irritate u). Schumi was better than anyone else in his era

Trooling? who the hell started agressive language, mind you I dont troll, this is General Talk, live with little OT or dont post here. I dont do personal attacks. You started it by telling me to start my own personal thread for MS fans. You dont like whats going on in this thread?, then stay away. You cannot tell me or anyone else what not to talk about in public forum. Period.

And MS is very much part of F1 even for this season. He is adviser to Ferrari, attending the GPs as a Ferrari team member

You continue bashing em i will continue saying this. Unlike you i can live with MS bashing and still keep my head steady and tolerate that. If you dont have that much patience then u dont get the meaning of public forum. Everyone is never gonna agree with your POV.

@QF yeah yeah, but does that makes him as good a driver as Schumi? we will see in 7 years

 

[Khimera]

Lol. sounds as though Schumi owns some money to cknish :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

and I will continue bashing Schumi and with even greater ferocity every time he is brought up where he doesn't belong.

Sorry dude, didn't know he didn't belong to f-1

 

[dipen01]

gotta disagree with u on that,,,
he was beaten by smone called 'whiny baby' alonso two years in a row hyeah:

Well..i would say ..he was beaten for ONE YEAR i.e last year..because there Ferrari was no match to Renault in 2005...and we need a comparable car for a healthy competition rite ...else there would be no point of Whiny baby drives.. Spykar and Yamamoto (yeah i know his license was revoked) drives Mclaren.

And something just for fun: :ashamed:

:tongue: :tongue:

 

[Apex]

Well..i would say ..he was beaten for ONE YEAR i.e last year..because there Ferrari was no match to Renault in 2005...and we need a comparable car for a healthy competition rite

with that argument, i'm afraid, u'll make your's and schumi's case weaker

coz if its that only, some of schumi's titles won't hold any significance esp. during those years when schumi used to settle the championship within the first half of the season. ferrari were outrageously superior to their competition.

so, kindly accept the fact that schumi was comprehensively beaten fair and square by alonso two years in a row! :hap2:

@Funky: yeah we'll see if Alonso can survive F1 for as long as Michael did and also if he's capable of matching Schumi's records. Personally though, I won't like him or anyone else to take 7 titles. Dominating champions for too long is not healthy for any sport, it just shows lack of quality in competition. Just my personal view and you don't have to agree! :bleh:

 

[Nikhil]

He was comprehensively beaten only in 2005.

2006 could have gone either way.

 

[Apex]

He was comprehensively beaten only in 2005.

2006 could have gone either way.

just for argument's sake, a 13 points difference in the final points table is as comprehensive as it can get. in 2005, schumi was nowhere.

remember 2003? only 2 points separated schumi and kimi. thanks to rubens, schumi was able to hang on to the title.

 

[TheMask]

thanks to rubens, schumi was able to hang on to the title.

Kindly elaborate pls

 

[Apex]

Kindly elaborate pls

yeah...as far as i remember, kimi needed 8 or 9 points in the final race to become the champion and he finished 2nd behind rubens. schumi got 8th or smthing which i can't recall. rubens did held up kimi on another occasion during the same season and add to that, numerous other times when rubens just sacrificed his place for schumi evidently or not, we all know that. don we?

so basically what i'm sayin is, all thanks goes to rubens. in other words, schumi must thank rubens for majority of his titles. he had a significant role to play in schumi's career. thank god schumi din't get a hamilton alongside him as his team-mate. :lol:

 

[Nikhil]

yeah...as far as i remember, kimi needed 8 or 9 points in the final race to become the champion and he finished 2nd behind rubens. schumi got 8th or smthing which i can't recall. rubens did held up kimi on another occasion during the same season and add to that, numerous other times when rubens just sacrificed his place for schumi evidently or not, we all know that. don we?

so basically what i'm sayin is, all thanks goes to rubens. in other words, schumi must thank rubens for majority of his titles. he had a significant role to play in schumi's career. thank god schumi din't get a hamilton alongside him as his team-mate. :lol:

Significant role ?? Before making such bold claims, please give facts.

Apart from Austria 2002.

 

[Shripad]

Actually its a decent driver in great car that helped schumi all those seasons.

Irvine, rubens were nowhere to be seen once they left ferrari. See how he is doing now?

But driving same car Schumi was comprehensively outperforming his teammate all those years race after race. Even in 2005 and 2006 with clearly inferior car than that of Renault, only Schumi and Kimi were able to atleast give it a go. Now thats the mark of good drivers Kimi has lots of potential, somehow he is not able to adjust to ferrari and made some mistakes in last few races that i wouldnt have ever expected from him.

And I am as big a Ferrari fan as I am MS fan. So whoever drives for Ferrari gets my unconditional support

so basically what i'm sayin is, all thanks goes to rubens. in other words, schumi must thank rubens for majority of his titles. he had a significant role to play in schumi's career. thank god schumi din't get a hamilton alongside him as his team-mate. :lol:

Team's good is always given 1st priority in F1. There is plenty that hangs on the race and season wins for teams. And thats why this happens.

Even Hamilton was told not to try and overtake Alonso in Monaco.

None of the ferrari drivers that drove as MS's team mates were even close to talent and performance of MS. They were performing well with the Ferrari only. They could never do what they did with ferrari with any other team. Thats tells you everything about what the team is all about.

 

[Apex]

Significant role ?? Before making such bold claims, please give facts. Apart from Austria 2002.

You must be kidding yourself if u believe Austria 2002 was an one off incident. Ferrari are clever enough not to reveal all of their internal calculations and team strategies to the media and the public. You don't have to go beyond Monaco 2007 to understand what a leaked team strategy can turn out to be.

Team's good is always given 1st priority in F1. There is plenty that hangs on the race and season wins for teams. And thats why this happens. Even Hamilton was told not to try and overtake Alonso in Monaco.

Exactly the fact I'm trying to establish. Its all a part of team strategy but that doesn't mean you can go on and win championships without the support of your team mate. Thats even considering the fact that Rubens and Irvine were no where close to Schumi in terms of talent but they surely had a part to play in Schumi's success, more in case of Rubens. Same goes for Mika and Coulthard.

 

[bottle]

what else is the no2 driver there for if not to support the team and no1 driver its not always that you have prost and senna in your team to let them race freely.. ferrari have been the best with their strategies and using whatever it takes to win a race .. and team orders arent unique to ferrari alone, afaik even mclaren used to do it in the mika / coulthard days .

i dont support stiffling someone at the start of the season (which i guess ferrari have done) but near the end if one championship or the other is at stake ,whats wrong with team orders

 

[Khimera]

its not the pressure of being the world champ...its the pressure of settling into a new team. its the pressure of getting accustomed to a new car within a limited period. its the pressure of proving yourself once all over again infront of your new team mate...and that's what is getting to alonso.

Exactly!!!!!! being a World Champion has got nothing to do with not being able to drive fast in a session