Windows 11 announced

rsaeon said:
The reasoning seems fair: https://www.microsoft.com/security/...ecurity-by-design-from-the-chip-to-the-cloud/

Apple's T2 chip does pretty much the same and marked the beginning of the end of the Hackintosh. It was only a matter of time until Microsoft implemented/enforced something similar.

It's possible this is what also makes paid android apps run under Windows, using the TPM chip to authenticate your system with your app purchases. Otherwise I'd imagine APK piracy would be rampant, allowing anyone to run anyone else's paid apps.

It's kind of sketch since we don't know yet to what extent Windows or apps would use TPM. Would governments be able to link your online activity to your system with it? A browser would have to broker this information, so Tor could easily bypass this. But what about native apps, like Discord? So many new conspiracies! Haha
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They are making it easier for people to move to Linux; since it had no stricter hardware requirement.
 
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Anyone installing Win11 via today's Insider dev channel build? How long did it take on your computer?

The download took under 5 minutes at 200 mbps and the installation is at 85% after more than half an hour on my 11th gen i5 laptop.
 
tech.monk said:
They are making it easier for people to move to Linux; since it had no stricter hardware requirement.
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It's a good move imo. Big Sur with M1 made a big jump ahead of Windows in Security. Windows trying to catch up without restricting the environment is good for it's userbase. I would have personally preferred a new OS from Windows camp with zero compatibility. A read only system partition, mandatory sandboxing, dropping support for 32 bit+legacy x86 insecure stuff. But it's not possible due to compatibility. So the best option for Windows is to improve anti exploit security which they have been doing since Windows 10.
 
TinTinSnowy said:
dropping support for 32 bit+legacy x86 insecure stuff
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if they do that, they will have to forget the enterprise customers who are running their tons of products. MS business folks will never think of taking that risk.

Sharing one more perspective here.
Since the launch of Win XP 64 bit, MS had the opportunity to jump 64 bit bandwagon for all of its product but in reality their few products are only moved to 64 bit. Imagine the trouble the Visual Studio IDE users are getting into just because the base of the VS is still at 32 bit - you can not edit large scale (refer enterprise apps) without impacting the system performance and this is just the case with dev, same happens to office products, Skype and whatever the remainder is.
 
vishalrao said:
Anyone installing Win11 via today's Insider dev channel build? How long did it take on your computer?

The download took under 5 minutes at 200 mbps and the installation is at 85% after more than half an hour on my 11th gen i5 laptop.
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The download took a bit more in my case but the installation completed in about 20 minutes. It certainly gets stuck at the higher percentages for a while.

Overall, the buttons and animations are too Mac-esque, not a bad thing as it makes it better compared to Windows 10. Feels smoother as well but have to see how it works on a daily basis. Also disabled the optional diagnostic data after installation, so have to keep a track on new Insider builds manually, but probably worth it.

The problematic thing is that the security on my newish laptop with Ryzen 4800H is listed as "standard hardware security features not supported". tpm.msc indicates the TPM 2.0 module in ready for use status and I have secure boot enabled with default keys. The UEFI is so barebones and there is no option on AMD fTPM. Seems the laptop is need of a BIOS update then to meet the current Windows 11 requirements in full.
 
t3chg33k said:
The download took a bit more in my case but the installation completed in about 20 minutes. It certainly gets stuck at the higher percentages for a while.
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When you say "installation completed in 20 min" was this after rebooting the computer? I ask because the "download" part is actually a download and also an installation phase before it prompts you to reboot... so it's actually in 3 steps...

On my laptop (with a tiger lake core i5 1135G7 cpu running on battery) it took about 5 minutes to download, an hour to install (before prompting to reboot) and about 10-15 minutes to complete the updates post reboot - say under 1.5 hours for the full process.

I'm right now in the middle of installing on my main desktop (Zen2 threadripper 3970x cpu) and here it took about 5 minutes to download and has taken about 30 minutes to complete the installation before prompting for reboot, which I'm about to do now... so I'm guessing about half the time it took on my laptop!
 
Do the windows 11 animations seem not fully smooth? Meaning they appear to be 30hz instead of 60hz even though the display is 60hz.
Might be that opening start menu and widgets sidebar triggering remote DNS lookups causing the smoothness issue... other animation like scrolling and maximising are super smooth. Tried running local dns cache but doesn't seem to help.
 
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vishalrao said:
Do the windows 11 animations seem not fully smooth? Meaning they appear to be 30hz instead of 60hz even though the display is 60hz.
Might be that opening start menu and widgets sidebar triggering remote DNS lookups causing the smoothness issue... other animation like scrolling and maximising are super smooth. Tried running local dns cache but doesn't seem to help.
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Yep same, animations aren't smooth.

Did anyone feel the difference in audio? I'm not sure what has changed but songs certainly sound a bit different from my Win 10 install.
 
j3rwin said:
Yep same, animations aren't smooth.

Did anyone feel the difference in audio? I'm not sure what has changed but songs certainly sound a bit different from my Win 10 install.
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Can you check if with bluetooth headphones you can have background audio while using zoom or meet?
 
i am on wiindows insider program beta channle,,,,,, and my laptop meets all the critieria for windows 11 but not getting any option in update to download windows 11

i contacted microsoft, they said they are having this issue and bombarded by this problem.. may take long...

but anyone has any solution
 
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