Shripad
Herald
The thing i found most funny about Veyron is that its listed on "How Stuff Works" 
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti.htm
thats because its not just a car but an engineering genius. thats why:tongue:Funky said:The thing i found most funny about Veyron is that its listed on "How Stuff Works"
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti.htm
thats what porsche is known for, its amazing driving controlIts not the speed but its the porsche's legendary precision driving control that amazes me.
guess all those sheiks who bought would have to drive it in deserts :rofl:AFAIK VW sold around 10 Vyreons,7 of them at the Dubai shopping festival.
pal i dont know where you got that info but as far as i have read, that is Autocar UK edition porsche has the best controlssaumilsingh said:Porsches aren't faster than Ferraris and they DEFINITELY don't have superior control. Infact they are some of the worst handling cars at extreme speeds thanks to the rear engine.
EnigmatriX said:i seem to be outnumbered ok i agree that porsche gets out of control at very high speed. ok so someone tell me whats the rear engines got to do with the handling of the car?
Front-engine cars tend to be less responsive to turning/rotating as their weight is further away from the center of mass, which increases rotational momentum. Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive cars also tend to have slightly worse acceleration due to the increased rotating mass in the drivetrain (long driveshaft).
Mid-engine cars are quick to respond to any desire to rotate and have more efficient tranfer of power from the engine to the rear wheels. They tend to be manueverable, but occasionally twitchy.
Rear-engine cars are... weird. The front ends are light, especially on acceleration, due to all that weight behind the rear axle. Needless to say, the front wheels don't turn a car as well under these conditions. However, the rear end has momentum and likes to slide out. Some are well-engineered and exhibit these tendencies in such a way that improve lap-times, while some are just scary, tail-happy spin machines.
The layout of drive train and engine influences the handling characteristics of a car and is the focus of more attention in a sports car.
Most modern cars use front wheel drive (FF) where the engine is in the front and drives the front wheels. Some sports cars have this layout (e.g. Lotus Elan M100, Fiat Coupé, Fiat Barchetta, Saab Sonett...), but due to its conservative effect on handling, it is not typical in higher-performance models. However the FF layout is quite common in small Japanese sport cars such as Honda CR-X, Subaru Alcyone SVX, Toyota Celica, Mitsubishi Eclipse... The FF layout has some advantages in small sport cars since it allows you to reduce weight (no need for gearing and propshaft) and size (no intrusion from the transmission tunnel).
Previously FR, front engine driving rear wheels, was common. The designation is deceptive as the engine is often mounted behind the front wheels, so it should be called a mid engine. This form has survived longer in sports cars than in the mainstream and is declared by some to be the "classic" layout for sports cars. The lighter rear-end and rear drive increases the ability of a car to "drift" around corners without losing control.
In search of improved handling and weight distribution other formats have been tried. mid engine, rear drive (MR) is a layout commonly found only in sports cars—the engine is mounted towards the centre of the chassis, close behind the driver, and powers the rear wheels.
Porsche are the sole remaining users of the RR layout, a rear engine driving the rear wheels. The qualities of their cars are often said to have come about despite rather than because of this layout. The weight distribution across the wheels in a Porsche 911 provides excellent traction, but cannot be seen as ideal as the weight of the engine is outside the car's wheelbase. This would usually lead to extremely unpredictable handling and, indeed, many of their early Porsches did suffer from this. However, Porsche have continuously refined the design and, in the recent years, combined their modifications with electronic driving aids like computerized traction and stability control which do much to counteract the inherent flaws of the design. Many of Porsche's techniques have been applied to other cars with success.
One option for transferring the power from the engine to the car's wheels is all wheel drive or AWD. Although some early passenger cars used this technique (e.g. 1966 Jensen FF) it did not gain widespread acceptance until the 1980s, when Audi upgraded their FF design to a turbocharged Quattro. Their great initial rally racing success in the early 1980s was soon bettered by even more sophisticated mid-engine cars, eg. from Peugeot or Lancia, who was later continued with the front-engine Lancia Delta Integrale.
Japanese manufacturers like Mitsubishi and Subaru use AWD in performance cars that serve as a basis for rallying, so they can be considered real sports cars. Many of the top-performing cars from marques like Audi, Porsche and Lamborghini have AWD in order to allow less skilled customers to take advantage of the power, which has to be considered the exact opposite of sporting.
In touring car racing like the 1990s German DTM, Opel and Alfa Romeo needed to add AWD to their FF designs in order to keep up with the Mercedes-Benz standard FR. After having been beaten once even in the wet by the inferior concept, these two brands pulled out of the DTM/ITC because they couldn't afford the high costs anymore. When the DTM serie resumed in 2000, AWD was banned to save costs, which was eventually accepted even by Audi.