XFX 650i ultra - deal issues
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1) A capacitor can "fry" if there is a short in that rail. infact all the caps in that rail will "fry" if there is a short. overvoltage (about 20% of thhe rated voltage of the capacitor) will also damage the caps.
this short condition / overvoltage / over current can be due to many reasons including physical damage on a m/b since they are multilayered.
This physical damage could be due improper packing as a consequence of which actual physical damage can happen during transit. or it could be due to a faulty psu / improper connections. (see i am not taking any sides
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2) Where does village / city come in the picture.
there should not be much difference in courier costs, unless the courier co's are different and there is express delivery.
it is in a very bad taste to bring this city / village concept here in a tech forum. India, our country, truly resides in small towns and villages. They are the essence and reflect our glorious culture since ancient times.
We are all alike here, no ego hassles or superiority complex here.
so kindly refrain from using such logic or concepts (city / village divide) to vent ur anger or frustrations here.
3) no comments regarding giving / receiving itrader ratings.
4)it is highly improbable that i/o shield is not packed in a m/b. unless the m/b is bought second hand from the market very cheaply. if the i/o shield was not present did you inform the buyer or posted about it in ur sale thread ? i/o shield is an integral part of the m/b system. different m/b's have different i/o configurations. if the i/o shield was not present and if the buyer was not informed it was your duty to buy a compatible i/o shield from the market and include that in the package.
5) weather = i leave it to the gods.
6)it is wrong to conclude that a m/b will work on only 1 given psu. that also on that piece of s**t coolermaster extreme series 600W or 6lakhW,whatever. any psu supplying 12 ~ 15 amps on the 12V rail is more than enough to power up the m/b with an inexpensive (meaning less power hungry) gfx card.
7)see point no:2 above.
8)Contradictions in both of you guys statements.
vinaycm says that you told him it cost you Rs.1000 to replace the caps. while you say that you did not replace it and just had it RMA'ed. we need a lie-detector test or probably narco analysis to find out the truth.:no:
9)irrelevant
10)see point 1 above.and once again i state that it "could" be due to multiple reasons but transit damage is looking like a prime candidate.
conclusions:
More members should post about their expiriences here (not in this thread but on the site). it will avoid the situation that jesal / vinaycm are facing here. infact i would like to suggest that any FS thread should be closed only after the feedback from the buyer. at present only the seller / op has the ability to close it i believe. why dont we have a system like when a seller / op closes the thread, the thread remains open and message is displayed for the buyer to post the feedback. no other posting can be done there except by the buyer. after the feedback the thread is finally closed by the seller /op.
if the buyer does not post for say 1 week then the thread is closed automatically. this will help in giving more transparency to the market section and it would be useful for new, young & inexperienced members.
this short condition / overvoltage / over current can be due to many reasons including physical damage on a m/b since they are multilayered.
This physical damage could be due improper packing as a consequence of which actual physical damage can happen during transit. or it could be due to a faulty psu / improper connections. (see i am not taking any sides
)2) Where does village / city come in the picture.
there should not be much difference in courier costs, unless the courier co's are different and there is express delivery.
it is in a very bad taste to bring this city / village concept here in a tech forum. India, our country, truly resides in small towns and villages. They are the essence and reflect our glorious culture since ancient times.
We are all alike here, no ego hassles or superiority complex here.
so kindly refrain from using such logic or concepts (city / village divide) to vent ur anger or frustrations here.
3) no comments regarding giving / receiving itrader ratings.
4)it is highly improbable that i/o shield is not packed in a m/b. unless the m/b is bought second hand from the market very cheaply. if the i/o shield was not present did you inform the buyer or posted about it in ur sale thread ? i/o shield is an integral part of the m/b system. different m/b's have different i/o configurations. if the i/o shield was not present and if the buyer was not informed it was your duty to buy a compatible i/o shield from the market and include that in the package.
5) weather = i leave it to the gods.
6)it is wrong to conclude that a m/b will work on only 1 given psu. that also on that piece of s**t coolermaster extreme series 600W or 6lakhW,whatever. any psu supplying 12 ~ 15 amps on the 12V rail is more than enough to power up the m/b with an inexpensive (meaning less power hungry) gfx card.
7)see point no:2 above.
8)Contradictions in both of you guys statements.
vinaycm says that you told him it cost you Rs.1000 to replace the caps. while you say that you did not replace it and just had it RMA'ed. we need a lie-detector test or probably narco analysis to find out the truth.:no:
9)irrelevant
10)see point 1 above.and once again i state that it "could" be due to multiple reasons but transit damage is looking like a prime candidate.
conclusions:
More members should post about their expiriences here (not in this thread but on the site). it will avoid the situation that jesal / vinaycm are facing here. infact i would like to suggest that any FS thread should be closed only after the feedback from the buyer. at present only the seller / op has the ability to close it i believe. why dont we have a system like when a seller / op closes the thread, the thread remains open and message is displayed for the buyer to post the feedback. no other posting can be done there except by the buyer. after the feedback the thread is finally closed by the seller /op.
if the buyer does not post for say 1 week then the thread is closed automatically. this will help in giving more transparency to the market section and it would be useful for new, young & inexperienced members.
Still trying hard to justify your stand?? You probaly cant..
The price that you've given also dont seem to be ok,, that rates are for first 500gms, for the extra weight after 500gms, rates are lower.. Its for DTDC plus,, ordinary DTDC air service is much cheaper..
The price that you've given also dont seem to be ok,, that rates are for first 500gms, for the extra weight after 500gms, rates are lower.. Its for DTDC plus,, ordinary DTDC air service is much cheaper..
Here's the rates for normal DTDC air service (through which he send the mobo to me)..
Indian Courier Company, Courier Company In India
Going by this, the rate jesal charged would still be still twice what really is..
I dont think i need to give anymore proof regarding jesal's cheating on the courier charge issue..
I knw still he would say.. Mumbai is a big city, everything is costly here & shit.. I damn care about that..
Indian Courier Company, Courier Company In India
Going by this, the rate jesal charged would still be still twice what really is..
I dont think i need to give anymore proof regarding jesal's cheating on the courier charge issue..
I knw still he would say.. Mumbai is a big city, everything is costly here & shit.. I damn care about that..
Iam not at sad..Why the hell should I?? I've let a lot of people know what kind of person you are.. Iam happy about that..
BTW is the courier charge the only problem in the deal, what about the damn bad packing, doa mobo, missing back plate, board would run on a crap cm psu only (as per you), iTrader cheating, capacitor change that cost 1K (& still they accepted the rma!!) & a lot others.. You are trying to divert attention from those core issues by posting again and again regarding the courier charge issue..
BTW is the courier charge the only problem in the deal, what about the damn bad packing, doa mobo, missing back plate, board would run on a crap cm psu only (as per you), iTrader cheating, capacitor change that cost 1K (& still they accepted the rma!!) & a lot others.. You are trying to divert attention from those core issues by posting again and again regarding the courier charge issue..
Now this is a horror story between a seller and a buyer.
Actually the XFX 650i Ultra mobo has a lot of issues.You have to be really lucky to get a good piece , I myself bought this mobo from Rashi in Aug 07 , I saw almost 20+ boxes of this mobo for RMA at Rashi (Delhi).
I have a friend who got a faulty XFX 650i Ultra mobo even after RMA.You should always check it after receiving the RMA.
I am really lucky as my XFX 650i Ultra mobo still is running at full throttle without any problems.
Actually the XFX 650i Ultra mobo has a lot of issues.You have to be really lucky to get a good piece , I myself bought this mobo from Rashi in Aug 07 , I saw almost 20+ boxes of this mobo for RMA at Rashi (Delhi).
I have a friend who got a faulty XFX 650i Ultra mobo even after RMA.You should always check it after receiving the RMA.
I am really lucky as my XFX 650i Ultra mobo still is running at full throttle without any problems.
I've had bad experience with jesal in past too, would suggest other members to refrain from trading with him in future. Once he gets the money, he doesn't care about what condition you get the product in, weather or not you get it n so on.... he will just blame it on the transit people.
I wonder how many trades are done everyday on Techenclave, and the transit loss happens only with this guy. He refuses to take any responsibility after getting the money.
http://www.techenclave.com/general-talk/the-courier-guy-messed-up-107221.html
I wonder how many trades are done everyday on Techenclave, and the transit loss happens only with this guy. He refuses to take any responsibility after getting the money.
http://www.techenclave.com/general-talk/the-courier-guy-messed-up-107221.html
joy1 said:
It dosent count.. Coz the seller has to make sure that the item is working before sending it to the buyer.. He cant just act dumb & escape saying he is not aware of that..
@ joy1,, You purchased that fata1ity rams from me,, right?? Did i cause any trouble to you whatsover in that deal from the start to the end??
manuvikraman
Forerunner
Guys............Enough!!!
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