XFX 650i ultra - deal issues

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I could have left a -ve iTrader rating for him.. But the problem is that he could do one for me also giving all his dumb justifications..

The problem is that once this debate dies down & if someone looks into my iTrader profile, then they'll be seeing this -ve rating.. Most wont care to dig into the matter & assume it was due to my fault.. This is the only thing i've not left a -ve rating for him..
 
one thing I would like to make clear here.

You do not have to fear -ve response to your -ve iTrader rating. If that happens, report it to mods and we will look into it. And if the -ve rating is just a unjustified response to justified -ve rating, it will be deleted.

I havent gone through this thread completely yet, but if anyone is not giving proper feedback because of the fear of -ve rating next to their name, they should not worry about that.
 
vinaycm said:
Trivandrum to Mumbai = Rs.150/-

Mumbai to Trivandrum = Rs.400/-

Same package, same service.. How come this be possible??

Can somebody from Mumbai plz check the rate for sending a small box weighing 1.2Kg from Mumbai to Trivandrum via normal DTDC air service.. It'd be really helpfull..

This thing happens, there are many DTDC franchise locations which charge more or less than what they are supposed to. I used to go through Borivali branch before which used to change me more than what the new branch which opened near me does now.
 
Shripad said:
one thing I would like to make clear here.

You do not have to fear -ve response to your -ve iTrader rating. If that happens, report it to mods and we will look into it. And if the -ve rating is just a unjustified response to justified -ve rating, it will be deleted.

I havent gone through this thread completely yet, but if anyone is not giving proper feedback because of the fear of -ve rating next to their name, they should not worry about that.

Yeah.. That's good..

But before posting a -ve rating for him, i would like him to speak up about sending the mobo in a bad packing (again, there was no packing at all.. which would have been a cause of it not working as it was damaged in transit) & accusing me of damaging the motherboard when he was unaware wether the board was properly working or not (he said its back from RMA & not tested it before sending, in that case how come he be so sure that i damaged it??).. Moreover how come he give uber lame explanations like "that board would work only on a CM 650W SMPS" & so..

Jesal, i would like to hear an explantion from you for these issues..
 
vinaycm said:
Moreover how come he give uber lame explanations like "that board would work only on a CM 650W SMPS" & so..

Thats pretty obnoxious, if he had really told it
Some MBs requires 2 4pin connector to draw more power, but they would still work fine on one 4 pin, but saying the MB would work only with one model of SMPS is real BS

Good thing i digged his old deal, which has led to this big thread...atleast vinaycm would feel a little better now after the sore deal he had
 
vinaycm said:
Trivandrum to Mumbai = Rs.150/-
Mumbai to Trivandrum = Rs.400/-

Same package, same service.. How come this be possible??

Can somebody from Mumbai plz check the rate for sending a small box weighing 1.2Kg from Mumbai to Trivandrum via normal DTDC air service.. It'd be really helpfull..

yea please do that and i was charged 385 by the way...
 
i never said 650w u freak stop lying left right and center now just becuase u are getting sympathy stop begging for it so badly. i am using 600 why will i tell u 650 now u are just talking utter nonsense. i told u before im sending in small box itself and because the courier was charging high amount. u thought i was bluffing but it was the truth. stop begging for sympathy really.
 
I agree on different DTDC branches charging differently here in Navi Mumbai. I shipped a 500 gig external drive to kerala recently via DTDC. First branch refused considering electronic item ( dumb postman type guy ) then he asked 450 bucks for it, it was brand new 500 gig WD and package was also bit huge around 1.5 KG. Another branch of DTDC nearby, shipped it for around 180 bucks.

As of mobo running only on CM460, sorry can't stop laughing . I won't comment on any of you here :) .
 
jesal said:
i never said 650w u freak stop lying left right and center now just becuase u are getting sympathy stop begging for it so badly. i am using 600 why will i tell u 650 now u are just talking utter nonsense. i told u before im sending in small box itself and because the courier was charging high amount. u thought i was bluffing but it was the truth. stop begging for sympathy really.

By the type of person you are, i was pretty sure that you'll deny that..

For all those people who want a detailed version, here is it:

First i tested using a VIP Platinum 600W (currently powering my rig) & when i didnt work, i called him n he replied that the board will work only with a CM 650W SMPS. I thought may be this damn board takes in good SMPS only, then i went to a friend's house & took his Corsair VX450. Then tested using that SMPS, again the same result. Then i thought it may be a little low on wattage, so tried a HX620 (not mine :( :( :( ) which was with me that time. Again the result was just the same. I had enough. I called up to him & he said "This mobo will work only on a CM 650W". I still remember it loud & clear. I should have recorded that call. (FYI all those SMPS are in perfect condition with no problem whatsover & to this moment are powering the respective rigs without a hitch).. With the kind of person jesal is, it was necessary. People can be bad, but never expected you to be this bad. Again in the last post, you are saying, since you are using 600W: How many from here agree that a board like this require a 600W+ SMPS from a good brand?? If iam correct this board will work any generic SMPS with a 24pin connector (given not using a high end gpu, lots of hdd's & stuff).. Here is the config i used to test out the board: Intel DC E2160, 1GB DDR2 667Mhz Kingston RAM, XFX Geforce 6200 128MBTC.. How many of you thing that this config would require a 600W+ SMPS (& that too of good make) even to boot up as per mr.jesal's claim??

Regarding the second lame justification of your's: You told the courier guys wont accept the board with that white box & told me that you'll send it in a smaller box. But again then i've asked you to pack it properly, right?? Why the hell you didnt do that?? Even in a small box with good packing, the board could have reached here safely. Of course with good packing, you'll have to pay up extra for shipping due to the extra weight. But its your responsibility to pack & send the item properly to the buyer, your responsibilities wont end after reciving the money..

(Please keep off topic things like sympathy off the discussion, come to the topic, OK?? Dont divert attention by saying unnecessary things..)

I would like to have the opinion of all fellow TE members regarding the issue of packing:

Does the seller have the right to pack an item improperly (in my case no packing at all!!!) or ignore the packing part just because it'll add to weight & bring in more courier charges??

Moreover our deal was for 3.1K shipped. He didnt tell the shipping charges to me until the time when he has to refund!!

For a guy who spends 6K+ for a night's alcohol, why cant he spend some 100 or even 200bucks extra for proper packing of the item which he sold??

I know jesal will come out with even lamer justifications, but there is no denying to the fact that "He didnt pack it properly to save shipping charges". He said he'll send in a small box, how the hell should i be knowing it was this small which virtually offers no protection at all. Moreover if there was some kind of packing inside (say some bubble wrap, foam or even paper shreds!!!) it should have reached me safe.

Jesal, you are yet to say anything about: Wether you know that the board was working at the time of sending it to me?? Just say an YES or NO,, i dont want your silly dumb explanations..

Here's my opinion: "If a seller cant even pack the items properly before sending it to the buyer, its better he stay out of business". Anybody who disagree to me can flame me..

(Most probalbly jesal's replay would be quoting some loop holes that he can find in the wordings & again will come up with some lame explanations for that, leaving the important things that he cant give a PROPER justification)
 
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hey man..told na... leave it..it just waste of time... why give him pleasure out of this.? u lost 400 bucks.. u made a thread abt the deal...u let everyone else know.. the staff know..if they think something should be done let them...

If you are trying to make him agree that hes wrong that aint gonna happen...

and regarding why he spends 6k on drinks and skimp on 400 bucks.. i have two words... selfish and cheap...

let it go man...been long..nothing good will come...
 
jerin said:
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hey man..told na... leave it..it just waste of time... why give him pleasure out of this.? u lost 400 bucks.. u made a thread abt the deal...u let everyone else know.. the staff know..if they think something should be done let them...

If you are trying to make him agree that hes wrong that aint gonna happen...

and regarding why he spends 6k on drinks and skimp on 400 bucks.. i have two words... selfish and cheap...

let it go man...been long..nothing good will come...

hey dont u start calling names u dont know me even, dont even dare to. that idiot i told 600 and hes stuck on 650. hes a real pain in the ass really. im not entertaining anyone calling me names here, if u dont know dont start juding people on one idiots call. dont u have any brains of your own? i have sold a lot of stuff in these 2 months did i cheat all of them u are saying ? they were stuff sold over 20k. why is there not a chance that his so called VIP psu dint fry my capacitors then no matter the best psu in the world would not power it cuz it was already screwed, everyone here wants to see only one side of the story. there was nothing wrong with the packing at all. it went in the box that XFX itself gave the inner one. he just gets an excuse. what i do with my personal life what i spend on is no ones business here. people spend on 15k cabinets and 40k gfx cards i dont do that but i dont call them mad or something ones choice where they want to spend. u bought a logitech speaker system for 20k i find that expensive did i say ure mad to spend on it. who the hell are u to talk where i spend money then ? people who are not involed stay away from passing such comments i aint taking shit cuz of one idiot. the other ratings ive got i have not paid those people or something like that. i met them here itself for the first time as well. im not a sympathy seeker or something thats the difference.
 
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easy dude. u said dont call names. ur the ones on the whole page. he is not getting any sympathy from anyone. he is just pointing out some mistakes u did. even ur replies to him are nothing short of rude and names... do i need to point em out...

you yourself painted the picture ..and u call others idiot..lame...freaks..and what not...

it was you who said 6k is nothing like a big shot... and still u skimped on a 400 bucks refund.. so what u say u only spend on you urself...you only do what is beneficial to you... r8 man?.. so what i said is true..it is you...wont change....

even the 400 bucks aint the issue to vinay...its ur actions as a seller and the right he had as a buyer. no one is saying u did all the deal u did are like that. but who knows if therent were issues... no one is...
 
jesal said:
hey dont u start calling names u dont know me even, dont even dare to. that idiot i told 600 and hes stuck on 650. hes a real pain in the ass really. im not entertaining anyone calling me names here, if u dont know dont start juding people on one idiots call. dont u have any brains of your own? i have sold a lot of stuff in these 2 months did i cheat all of them u are saying ? they were stuff sold over 20k. why is there not a chance that his so called VIP psu dint fry my capacitors then no matter the best psu in the world would not power it cuz it was already screwed, everyone here wants to see only one side of the story. there was nothing wrong with the packing at all. it went in the box that XFX itself gave the inner one. he just gets an excuse. what i do with my personal life what i spend on is no ones business here. people spend on 15k cabinets and 40k gfx cards i dont do that but i dont call them mad or something ones choice where they want to spend. u bought a logitech speaker system for 20k i find that expensive did i say ure mad to spend on it. who the hell are u to talk where i spend money then ? people who are not involed stay away from passing such comments i aint taking shit cuz of one idiot. the other ratings ive got i have not paid those people or something like that. i met them here itself for the first time as well. im not a sympathy seeker or something thats the difference.
Pretty colorful language:P
 
jerin said:
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easy dude. u said dont call names. ur the ones on the whole page. he is not getting any sympathy from anyone. he is just pointing out some mistakes u did. even ur replies to him are nothing short of rude and names... do i need to point em out...

you yourself painted the picture ..and u call others idiot..lame...freaks..and what not...

it was you who said 6k is nothing like a big shot... and still u skimped on a 400 bucks refund.. so what u say u only spend on you urself...you only do what is beneficial to you... r8 man?.. so what i said is true..it is you...wont change....

even the 400 bucks aint the issue to vinay...its ur actions as a seller and the right he had as a buyer. no one is saying u did all the deal u did are like that. but who knows if therent were issues... no one is...

u buy something from a big store, yea and tell them u want a refund. they wil refund u and cut the shipping, they are millionares. this is the way done globally. shipping always gets cut. try anywhere in bombay. i bought a table yesterday, and dint like it in the house. i bought it for 6500. sold it again 5 hrs for 5500 to the same person cuz he cut 1000 as shipping i had to agree to choice and he has a huge showroom in bombay its simple. no maths here, people living in bombay know that.
 
jerin said:
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even the 400 bucks aint the issue to vinay...its ur actions as a seller and the right he had as a buyer. no one is saying u did all the deal u did are like that. but who knows if therent were issues... no one is...
this is the only thing that bother others.:D

and please avoid the mumbai talk.. i lived there...my relatives are settled there and my old college buddies now work there..so know atleast small things dear...:rofl: :clap:
 
jerin said:
this is the only thing that bother others.:D

and please avoid the mumbai talk.. i lived there...my relatives are settled there and my old college buddies now work there..so know atleast small things dear...:rofl: :clap:

why avoid, its the truth, everything here is OVERPRICED. i find that too even though i have lived here all my life. ignoring is not gonna solve anything, everyone here is out here to make a quick buck out here. its damn light living anywhere else except here.
 
My take on the whole thing

1. Vinaycm has made his point. He should update the iTrader rating and leave it at that.

2. There is no way to verify the condition the board was shipped in and whether a specific PSU was mentioned. So let's not even talked about it as it's one person's word against another.

3. There is nothing more to be gained out of this thread than the use of 'colorful' language as someone put it. Nobody wants that.

4. @vinaycm - Clarify what do you want specifically. If it is Rs 400 or a public apology or ownership of the fault, forget it. Looking at both your posts, it's not going to happen

5. @jesal - You've posted your side of the story and even the address of the DTDC person. That's good enough from your side. There's no more facts that any of you can bring up anymore. Both of you have argued enough about the same things over and over again, it's serving no purpose. Somehow sympathies on forums are drawn towards the person having a milder language. Sorry to say, your use of words and analogies are not helping you.

6. Both of you should stop posting ideally in this thread and request mods to close it personally.

I would request mods to close this thread as it is not serving any purpose now and turning into a flame war. Very soon groups would be formed siding one of them and we'll see more 'colorful' language here!
 
+1 to Kneo's suggestion. I can has the thread be closed?

@Both : give the other a -ve rating and let the mods decide who gets to keep them.
 
im out of this now, im not going to calm my tone to get sympathy not my style, i dont want any either. its people if 2 people involved solve it and not make a big fuss about it. i aint posting here now. cheers im out, people who want to deal with me can deal with me and who dont want to its their choice its that simple i cant really force people now can i :)
 
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