Serious BSOD issues

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kartikoli

kartikoli

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I've been upgrading my PC for couple of months now and gradually buying newer components but now I am facing multiple BSOD's with different errors

My current config as of now
- Ryzen 3500 (purchased used one)
- Gigabyte B550M DS3H (New)
- Corsair Vengeance 2*16gb kit 3000Mhz (have another new XPG 2*8gb 3200Mhz kit and a Gskill Trident Z 8gb), but currently using Corsair kit
- Asus 1060 3gb (Purchased from @Arun.P) Also have Gigabyte 1060 3gb (which I will sell as time permits)
- EVM 250gb NVMe SSD (New, Purchased from @Arun.P), Crucial 250gb SSD (recently RMA'd, Not plugged in), New 2TB Seagate Surveillance, 2TB WD Black, 3TB WD Purple, 4TB WD Purple)
- Antec 450W SMPS (Also have Corsair RM1000X which I gave for RMA thinking they might send a new one in return :) No harm in trying since it was lying unused for couple of years and I have been using Antac SMPS with out any issues)
- BenQ 27' Monitor

When i use all above components with my old installed windows 10 (on seagate drive) the PC runs without error but when i try to install windows on NVMe drive I am getting multiple BSOD and PC can't stand more than 2~5min.
Here are the error messages I am getting after installing fresh copy of Windows 10 Pro (I've used v1909 and v20H2)

- APC Index Mismatch
- Kmode Exception Not Handled
- IRQL_GT_ZERO_AT_SYSTEM_SERVICE
- PAGE FAULT IN NONPAGED AREA
- attempted write to readonly memory
- REFERENCE_BY_POINTER
- IRQL_not_less_or_equal

As you can see there are different error messages every time so I am not sure what could be an issue, I've changed motherboard/processor/RAMs/SSD/GPU and only thing that haven't been changed is SPMS. Could this be an issue? but then it doesn't make sense as the same setup works fine with old window OS installed.
This is my work PC so I keep it in top condition as you don't want it to malfunction in middle of a project or a client call

Any help will be appreciated and I am practically running out of options. Once I even thought of changing the cabinet lol
P.S. I've changed all SATA cables with new ones so thats not an issue either but that doesn't matter when I am use NVMe SSD
 
Most of these point to RAM problems but since you have changed the sticks themselves, it might be the board. Did you put the RAM in correct slots? Also are you on the latest bios?
 
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Yes I've updated it to latest BIOS also checked with other rams as well.
Regarding motherboard, I've purchased another board from Asrock and faced same issue so motherboard is not at fault
 
There were issues on crucial SSD so gave it for RMA, turned out SSD was fine because same error popped up when i tried after it came back from RMA.
 
Check the partition system on your drives. If the older drive with windows has mbr partition and the newer drive has gpt (or vice versa) then sometimes pc refuses to boot or run stable. Format your new drive with the older partition system and reinstall windows again.
 
kartikoli said:
Yes I've updated it to latest BIOS also checked with other rams as well.
Regarding motherboard, I've purchased another board from Asrock and faced same issue so motherboard is not at fault
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Could be a bad memory controller on the CPU then. Try with a cheap athlon 200ge or similar and see if it is stable.
 
Chaos said:
Could be a bad memory controller on the CPU then. Try with a cheap athlon 200ge or similar and see if it is stable.
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Let's hope it doesn't comes to that, It would be such a waste of money.

Btw as we speak I've successfully installed windows after changing to MBR partion. It just finished and I am on desktop.

Now the real test when I try to connect all other drives and start installing software etc...
 
IRQL_not_less_or_equal
First error while trying to install nvidia drivers and as I speak next error came and PC restarted. Dam this is frustrating [emoji20]

It was something driver something error... Couldn't see.
Now while I type the PC restarted 3rd time

4th restart with error
PAGE FAULT IN NONPAGED AREA
 
As I said - these kind of errors are all memory read related. So either memory or a dud memory controller. Since memory has already been swapped and checked, it has to be the cpu's memory controller.
 
But how is it working fine without any error when I use old windows from another hard disk. If it's a physical issue then it should happen in both cases. Correct me if wrong?
 
kartikoli said:
But how is it working fine without any error when I use old windows from another hard disk. If it's a physical issue then it should happen in both cases. Correct me if wrong?
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Maybe the old OS is not hammering the CPU the same way. Also what old OS? Ryzen doesn't support anything other than Win10.

It could also be the NVME drive as that will also create issues similar to memory errors since it hangs off directly from the CPU.
 
Yes both are w10 pro, though old installation is on normal hard disk so it's slow. I can try to clone and copy it to SSD but that still doesn't explain the reason for errors.

Since I've changed almost all the parts I believe the issue is with SMPS but not sure if that is the case
 
kartikoli said:
Yes both are w10 pro, though old installation is on normal hard disk so it's slow. I can try to clone and copy it to SSD but that still doesn't explain the reason for errors.

Since I've changed almost all the parts I believe the issue is with SMPS but not sure if that is the case
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try on a sata ssd and see if you get errors
 
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Its GPT for all drives but I will try with MBR and see if that works
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You mentioned that all the components works fine with seagate hdd, Correct ? Is seagate hdd used MBR or GPT ?
I not sure, but I faced installation of Issue 1. When trying to install using MBR bootable usb on a GPT disk and visa versa, also found that 20H2 is not supporting Non-UEFI motherboard
 
find *.dmp files in the c:\windows\system32 or something like that and open them with windbg. will tell you the rogue driver. nuke it.
 
gcbeldar said:
You mentioned that all the components works fine with seagate hdd, Correct ? Is seagate hdd used MBR or GPT ?
I not sure, but I faced installation of Issue 1. When trying to install using MBR bootable usb on a GPT disk and visa versa, also found that 20H2 is not supporting Non-UEFI motherboard
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its on GPT, I made a bootable usb using MBR also changed SSD to MBR before installation. The installation process was smooth and went perfectly fine though without detecting drivers for 1060. I can repeat the process with GPT this time and see if that works
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find *.dmp files in the c:\windows\system32 or something like that and open them with windbg. will tell you the rogue driver. nuke it.
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Will give it a try as I install using GPT.

Windows installation have never been so stressful and it hurts personal pride saying i can install dam windows lol
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Edit: now when I tried to install using GPT the installation process goes upto 30~40% and crash. The error message that I got is

System service exception
What failed: NTFS.sys
 
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kartikoli said:
Windows installation have never been so stressful and it hurts personal pride saying i can install dam windows lol
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There was a time when i used to type in windows keys from memory lol...
anyways... page fault in nonpaged area, irql less or not equal are symptoms of shitty programming. these violations happen when drivers leak memory or try to access memory that doesnt belong to them. if you run !analyze -v on windbg it will tell you mostly what shitty driver is causing this. This is the problem with windows. you have to play trial and error with shitty drivers because the code is not opensource.
 
Dude, try latest iso from windows site.
In bios, memory controllers option, set it all to default esp. manual settings.
Also, try on a single stick only.
I will even say try it on a blank hdd or sdd initially to rule out issues stepwise..
 
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