Mr.J
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Adani group, an Evil corp?
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babhishek
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They wouldn't because it would be stupid of them to. A whistleblower wouldn't blow out a whistle unless there is something major to point out else they lose credibility.
Here is a thought exercise for you - Take Tata Motors or why only large cap..
Even a mid cap eg a Gillette or eClerx - go through the Annual report with a fine toothed comb and see if you can find anything suspicious/questionable.
I still don't get why you are so certain that this is a all cloaks & daggers - If Hindenburg were wrong and had done this out of pure malafide intent, Both of these would have happened:
a) A minor drop in market cap followed by a quick correction because the aggrieved party would have been quickly able to disprove the allegations
B) A massive lawsuit against the alleger - Major defamation and even criminal intent cases have been easily won for allegations and impact of a much lesser degree
As it stands, neither have - which only goes on to prove that you are trying to defend an indefensible scenario.
Hell, Even the alleged party isn't trying to discredit the alleger now but rather focusing on damage control
In some ways, its an excellent thing even for the Adani group that this happened - Post stake sales at what are probably realistic valuations, expect the new fund houses to have a major say on the corp governance practices which will only help everyone involved in the long run
agree with everything above, what is also worth understanding is the electoral bond funding for 2024. Stake sales will need to happen to fund the election campaign and ensure continuity of patronage. corporate governance etc will be secondary unfortunately and will be a 3yr-5 yr process as called out above [long run] .
After A, the hindenburg is now going after Jack Dorsey and his venture called 'block'.
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Yeah pick an example with no strategic implications does not negate the one where it does 
AtTaCk oN tHE NatioinAfter A, the hindenburg is now going after Jack Dorsey and his venture called 'block'.
USA USA /shoots guns in the air…
Drop it buddy.Yeah pick an example with no strategic implications does not negate the one where it does
Even long before Hindenburg, everyone was talking about malpractice of 'A'. There are several such posts here on TE. Nobody came to defend 'A' back then. Hindenburg told us what we already knew.
Anyway, I did predict that nothing was gonna happen and,
I gotta start charging cookies for my predictions.
I can already hear Bruce Willis crying 'Yipee-ka-ye MF' and Arnold running back to the choppa.AtTaCk oN tHE Natioin
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I would not call a five year setback as nothing. A cost has been imposed. As to what could have been done or what was not will take more time to assess
Let me give you another example. One that the Americans were against. They helped with Haifa but they opposed here and delisted one of his companies for dealing with the Mynamar military
India’s Adani Faces Scrutiny for Port Deal in Myanmar
A major index provider and some investors are distancing themselves from the marine-ports operator controlled by Indian conglomerate Adani Group over past business transactions with a company linked to the military regime in Myanmar.
www.wsj.com
I don't give a hoot about what the military junta does because neither does China. But they get to have their port whereas we have to give up ours
All this HR and democracy nonsense isn't helping when interests are at play which the US dutifully follows when it suits them and blocks others when it does not.
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5 years of free market without a monopoly? That sounds amazing.
Marcus Fenix
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Come on man. Now posts are worth Rs. 1 instead of Rs. 2 due to the stock price reduction. Don't laugh at someone taking away a man's livelihood.
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alekhkhanna
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Almost Half of Adani’s $5.7B FDI Inflows From ‘Opaque Overseas Entities With Connections to Group’: FT
The newspaper says that this highlights “the role of hard-to-scrutinise money flows in financing the Indian tycoon’s business empire”. This is concerning, it says, as it is impossible to ascertain whether or not the funds had been “round-tripped” or sent “out of India, then brought back into a...
m.thewire.in
Before people bring pitchforks saying it's the Wire, Wire is analysing FT's article, which is paywalled.
TinTinSnowy
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alekhkhanna
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I wish someone would juice my balls the way govt is juicing the janta.
TinTinSnowy
Herald
Acche Din aane waale hai! /s
Waiting for bhakts to justify removal of ltcg on debt funds, increase in STT and 20% TCS on LRS.
I feel more and more people will move out from India in the coming days. We pay direct tax like Europe, indirect tax like Dubai but get no benefits like them.
Marcus Fenix
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Brilliant, we now not only get to see our economy collapse, but also participate in it.
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Adani Group denies report of securing $3 bn loan from sovereign fund
Sovereign wealth fund Adani Group: Meanwhile, all ten group stocks had gains on Wednesday, the first time since the Hindenburg report was released in Januarywap.business-standard.com
Duuuuuuuude. Don't shoot yourself in the foot, specially for Adani. Lol
‘India (Adani) attacked’, Abu Dhabi to the rescue
International Holding Company, which is closely linked to the royal family, announced that it would invest $400 million in the FPO
www.telegraphindia.com
It's happened before
Seems we get to overtake Japan sooner than I thought. Nobody talks about $5 tr anymore because it's a given.
How to get to $10 tr THAT is what people are talking about
Big problem for those that don't wish us well. How to stop it, slow it, reverse it. So they will try many things in the coming years.
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alekhkhanna
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‘India (Adani) attacked’, Abu Dhabi to the rescue
International Holding Company, which is closely linked to the royal family, announced that it would invest $400 million in the FPO
It's happened before
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Seems we get to overtake Japan sooner than I thought. Nobody talks about $5 tr anymore because it's a given.
How to get to $10 tr THAT is what people are talking about
Big problem for those that don't wish us well. How to stop it, slow it, reverse it. So they will try many things in the coming years.
10 trillion economy with a dictator at the centre. 30% + direct taxes, 5-100% indirect taxes. Tax on debt funds, decreasing options for saving taxes or savings in general. Seems like a wet dream for some people.
Read about CBFC's mandates cuts for Bheed. All PM references to be cut. Not far away from China from ruling monopoly. No dissent allowed by aam-junta.
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Personal attacks, casting aspersions, FUD, Using disgruntled employees. The market is sentiment driven. Easily spooked
Why use legal means to make the case when you can just launch a hit job and get faster results
Then when a committee is constituted to probe and finds nothing just say well they were biased. HA
Accuse when there is no basis and when proof cannot be found say it was a flawed investigation.
A longer form of what I've said already. From Jan 30
Ankit trashes Hindenberg's allegations with ease. All was apparent at the outset.
He says, Adani's stock won't just bounce back but will be back with a BANG next year because these are real industries
Why use legal means to make the case when you can just launch a hit job and get faster results
Then when a committee is constituted to probe and finds nothing just say well they were biased. HA
Accuse when there is no basis and when proof cannot be found say it was a flawed investigation.
A longer form of what I've said already. From Jan 30
Ankit trashes Hindenberg's allegations with ease. All was apparent at the outset.
He says, Adani's stock won't just bounce back but will be back with a BANG next year because these are real industries
Do you mean we will finally be able to pass the farm reforms then? HAHA
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