Graphic Cards Advice on gpu upgrade

raj#123

raj#123

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I have computer with i3 12100f and psu of 450w and am planning to upgrade my gpu which is a gt 610 ( I bought this for pure video out ) now I have a budget of around 20k to 25k iam thinking of going with rtx 3060 or rx 7600 any suggestions?
 
if you are ok with used products, you may get a used 3070 or 6700xt within 20k-25k. For those you would need a 650W PSU.

for new GPUs, I would go personally with 4060 because that consumes less power than a 3060 and would go well with your current psu.
 
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Used 3060Ti at 16-17k (or used 6700XT at 18k) + a new 650W PSU (at least bronze rated)

Else, only 4060 is efficient enough for your PSU (it is considered a poorly priced product), performs ~25% worse than an used 3060Ti or 6700XT
 
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As someone with a 6700 XT, I'd tell you to steer clear of it (and AMD GPUs in general).
  • Drivers are fiddly af, I had to experiment so much just to get the most out of it. My previous GPU (1050 Ti), in comparison, was a complete breeze to set-up and I never had any driver issues with it.
  • Adrenaline drivers are a nightmare; the full version uses wayy too many resources and the minimal version is straight up useless with a lot of missing features.
  • Many DX11 games perform terribly. You used to be able to replace the DXNavi dlls with old ones in the registry (see what I mean when I say "fiddly drivers"?) but AMD put a stop to that.
  • FSR (both upscaling and framegen) is complete dogwater compared to DLSS and XeSS.
There are more reasons why I think AMD cards are not worth it but this post is too long as it is.
All I know is that I'm never buying AMD GPUs in the future again lol.
 
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AlexPayne said:
As someone with a 6700 XT, I'd tell you to steer clear of it (and AMD GPUs in general).
  • Drivers are fiddly af, I had to experiment so much just to get the most out of it. My previous GPU (1050 Ti), in comparison, was a complete breeze to set-up and I never had any driver issues with it.
  • Adrenaline drivers are a nightmare; the full version uses wayy too many resources and the minimal version is straight up useless with a lot of missing features.
  • Many DX11 games perform terribly. You used to be able to replace the DXNavi dlls with old ones in the registry (see what I mean when I say "fiddly drivers"?) but AMD put a stop to that.
  • FSR (both upscaling and framegen) is complete dogwater compared to DLSS and XeSS.
There are more reasons why I think AMD cards are not worth it but this post is too long as it is.
All I know is that I'm never buying AMD GPUs in the future again lol.
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As someone who jumped from 3070 to 7900GRE, I have a different experience:
  1. Drivers & games have crashed at times, but I'm running the GPU with some OC via adrenaline. Still, crashes are rare.
  2. I'm getting fps very close to online numbers. Where it is relatively much lower, usually my CPU (i5 12400) is the bottleneck. With 32GB RAM, I don't care if the software takes more RAM vs GeForce Control Panel (never used new Nvidia app)
  3. Didn't play many DX11 games, so can't comment
  4. Agreed that FSR is worse than DLSS but even on DLSS I used to ensure the rendering resolution isn't below 1080p. 1440p DLSS quality renders just below 1080p, I never used it below that because it looked noticeably worse to me on 24" & 27" monitors. I have used 4K FSR quality on some games, like Warhammer Space Marine 2 recently: no noticeable artifacts or anything. I had played Starfield at launch with 1440p FSR quality mode on my 3070 last year, again no noticeable issues. Frame gen - I just avoid it entirely don't recommend it anyone. I am happy playing games at ~70fps (so that 1% low fps is above 55fps or so).
Given a choice between Nvidia & AMD at same performance, price & VRAM, I will definitely pick Nvidia, but that is not the reality sadly. I opted for 16GB VRAM for 4K gaming when I opted for AMD over Nvidia.
 
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OMEGA44-XT said:
With 32GB RAM, I don't care if the software takes more RAM
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That's fair, I have 32GB RAM now too so it shouldn't matter anymore. However, another issue with Adrenaline was the fact that it conflicted very heavily with Afterburner. I always have Afterburner open for Undervolting and controlling my Fan curve. When I had the full version of Adrenaline installed, it would always override the Afterburner settings which was annoying. But what really infuriated me was the fact that you could not turn off Zero RPM mode for some reason in Adrenaline.

The overlay is also terrible so for me atleast there's 0 reason to install Adrenaline, which sucks because it has some fairly cool features like AFMF which are not present in the Minimal Adrenaline version.
OMEGA44-XT said:
Given a choice between Nvidia & AMD at same performance, price & VRAM, I will definitely pick Nvidia, but that is not the reality sadly. I opted for 16GB VRAM for 4K gaming when I opted for AMD over Nvidia.
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Pretty much exactly why I went for 6700 XT. At that price point (Rs. 34, 000 in Dec 2023) the only competition it had from Nvidia was 3060Ti which only had 8GB VRAM. I really shoulda gone for the 4070 lol
 
OMEGA44-XT said:
As someone who jumped from 3070 to 7900GRE, I have a different experience:
  1. Agreed that FSR is worse than DLSS but even on DLSS I used to ensure the rendering resolution isn't below 1080p. 1440p DLSS quality renders just below 1080p, I never used it below that because it looked noticeably worse to me on 24" & 27" monitors. I have used 4K FSR quality on some games, like Warhammer Space Marine 2 recently: no noticeable artifacts or anything. I had played Starfield at launch with 1440p FSR quality mode on my 3070 last year, again no noticeable issues. Frame gen - I just avoid it entirely don't recommend it anyone. I am happy playing games at ~70fps (so that 1% low fps is above 55fps or so).
Given a choice between Nvidia & AMD at same performance, price & VRAM, I will definitely pick Nvidia, but that is not the reality sadly. I opted for 16GB VRAM for 4K gaming when I opted for AMD over Nvidia.
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Dunno about AMD drivers.

Even with DLSS, atleast at monitor distance, at 4k 32, i play on DLSS quality. DLSS performance is noticeably blurry in many games in motion. Don't like it. Not 100% sure about balanced.
I tried FSR quality at 4k ( with 3080) and it looked ok to me too. So DLSS is better at lower resolutions sure, but i dont want to play at those resolutions as its still not good.

Framegen - this is actually good. I used FSR framegen in witcher 3 via a mod (+DLSS) and it made motion noticeably smoother and i did not feel any lag. There were some artifacts, but it was 100% worth it for me.
Once base fps is above 50-60, then framegen can be worth it. My base was around 45-55 and it went to 70-80+. Its a slower paced game, so may need higher base fps for faster games.

AFMF sounds cool too, and given how popular lossless scaling is, it probably can work. Obviously wont be perfect.

I wish AMD/Nvidia add something like this at driver level with proper gsync and HDR support. It looks cool.
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My man, you're about to embark on a journey so euphoric, that few have ever experienced it. You're about to experience a MASSIVE jump in GPU performance going up from that little turd that you call a GPU :playful: . Doesn't matter if it's a 3060/Ti/3070/6700XT.

Enjoy!
 
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