CPU/Mobo AMD PileDriver Discussion thread

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AMD now in not a position to compete on performance level.... Hence they will definitely concentrate VFM market....

If they stick to their words and if PD (PileDriver) is just 10 - 15 % gain on current BD.... It is not going to change anything..... But with some optimisation and low power consumption PD will be good in mid and lower segment....
 
Like Phenom-II as its predecessor [Phenom-I] was a disaster and even Phenom-II initial stepping were not that good for clocking higher , we might expect revisions of BD chips which might improve the module platform even better.

When its purely APU power i dont see a point with intel which we have already seen with the LLANO performing better and its ALWAYS AMD for the APU power for sure. No doubt.

I don't care about the up coming hype of pile driver. But how ever i am hoping its gonna hit the market with its new FM2 socket , chipset and mostly performance wise too.
 
I take my words back - AMD shouldn't even bother with launching PD - its slated for a Q3 launch.. and im pretty sure that AMD will delay it to Q4

it will come behind IB 50% slower(IPC wise) with 50% higher power consumption.

Why is AMD even releasing it I don't understand!!???

Everytime AMD wants to up their CPU performance - they add cores!!!

Applications are hardly threaded for using 4 cores let alone 8 or 10!!!!!

Intel will beat 10 core AMD this time with a quad core(2600k/870 beats 8150 in wprime) that has higher ipc.........
 
Cant believe Trinity with PD is launching Q1 2012 and PD itself in Q3 or Q4 2012.

They should just scrap it and launch it's successor whenever by Q2 2013.
 
comp@ddict said:
Cant believe Trinity with PD is launching Q1 2012 and PD itself in Q3 or Q4 2012.

They should just scrap it and launch it's successor whenever by Q2 2013.
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If the CPU performance of Trinity is seen, it is not a great jump but the IGP is really potent, lets hope something works out for the AMD brigade OR they are in trouble.

Also I am of the opinion AMD should not delay its launches any more, the GPU branch has worked out a nice rhythm to its releases akin to Intel's tic-toc cycle, this has allowed them to release cards when required, by the time another card comes in from nVidia the market is already saturated with AMD as well as the drivers are mature enough to extract the maximum performance from these cards.

The CPU branch of ops should learn from this and be more aggressive and punctual with their releases. This'll will ensure that even if their CPU's do not perform atleast they are in the market to compete with Intel releases and then AMD can correct its prices accordingly -- in Bulldozer's case AMD was late [most people had bought Sandy-Bridge out of frustration] and the pricing was lets put it simply atrocious and the performance gains were glaringly inconsistent, Bulldozer in my views is an abject failure.

cricfan said:
Piledriver.....sounds like a cheap drug for piles..They could have come with a better name for a start..
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It is a code-name, what does Cedar Mill remind you of OR for that matter Ivy-Bridge.
 
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Piledriver will bring many new features, better IPC, wider L1 cache , quad DDR3 channels wider FPU pipeline . Hopefully it will enhance performance.

The only issue with Bulldozer is power consumption and single threaded performance. For power I blame GloFo process and hopefully that will be fixed with Trinity (17W version will be out)

Source : http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20120116163742_AMD_Describes_Piledriver_Architecture_Peculiarities_to_Software_Developers.html
 
^^ But #Dark Star in Trinity 17W APU the compute performance has been pegged as the same of the current Stars based Llano APU's.
 
^^Well I am not pointing to performance. But if AMD managed such a feat 17W TDP with Bulldozer enhanced core then its pretty clear that they fixed the power issues.
 
^^ I can imagine that will be of greatest help to ultra-thin notebooks and net-tops. Let us all hope that AMD delivers.
 
#ALPHA17: I am hoping that too. This year I am finally upgrading my EEEPC 1000H Netbook which has started feeling atrociously slow now. I recently had a chance to work on a E300 APU based DM1 Netbook and let me say, the performance was just awesome. It never slowed down, even when I had several PDFs and PPTs open at the same time. It just goes to show what I can expect from current generation of AMD Netbooks.
 
#cricfan - Even though Krishna is dead (presumably) and AMD intends to launch Trinity @ 17W TDP, it doesn't mean that they will kill the bobcat kind of project since its been most successful project for them.

I hope the refurbished Brazos 2.0 (higher clocks + turbo on cpu/gpu and newer fch/chipset) will be even better/nothing ground-breaking though. I will rather wait till Feb 2 for analyst day and Rory Read new strategy and cpu roadmaps.

They had to cancel Krishna due to poor yields of 28nm at GloFo. Other than that nothing is clear, no one is pretty sure that Krishna is phased out or not but mostly it is. Things will be more clear after Feb2.
 
#DarkStar..sorry, i was taking silly potshots at AMD naming their cpu's after hindu gods..later realised its after South Indian rivers..
 
After seeing the fail prices of Ivy bridge combos, i'm looking forward to these.

Only 10 more days to go
 
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