Common Scams happpening in India, list the ones you may know

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All those Nigerian prince's sending me regular emails......View attachment 41749
I hope they find someone to help them.
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1. Fake Pen drives sold on roads .. 32gb,64gb at dead cheap price.
2. Ebay seller warranty mentioned at one small corner of the listing page.
3. OLX fake buyers asking item as a gift for poor
 
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In any case, The biggest large scale scam operation that I have encountered personally is Apollo Hospitals. They claim to offer medical services with excellent doctors which I found to completely untrue. They might be called half decent if they had claimed to be a hotel, but calling it a hospital is a sham. All they do is dupe people to milk money out of them and play with their lives.
100% agreed.

More over, I have heard few incidents and even witnessed one friend's case in which person is not sure that he/she will survive after the surgery/operation.
Its ok that we/person signed document about our consent that treatment may not go well & he may die(since there are less chances to survive in some critical cases).

But these buggers first say that neurosurgery will cost you 3.5 lakhs including all expenses, & we have to deposit in advance before starting.

Somehow, my friend's relative couldn't make it after the surgery and died after 2 days.

After that, they show us inflated bill of 6 lakhs asking to pay rest of 2.5 lakhs.........On top that, they refused to hand over the dead body until we settle out the bill.

They will threaten you take the legal actions and person's family in a grief would have to pay such amount to get the body and do the necessary cremation/funeral.

Always be cautious before going with risky/costly surgery with Apollo.
 
^ that is pathetic on Apollo's part. When my dad passed away, we were handed over his body immediately, and we settled the bill after performing the last rites. And I am talking about a small time hospital in Mumbai, Sujay Hospital in Juhu.
 
Most so called BIG and reputed hospitals are scam. I have even heard bad reviews about Kokilaben Dhirubhai Ambani Hospital in Mumbai. Anyways entire reliance is chor so no surprises here.
 
If your NAVs were losing value then why did you hold on to it for so long? It was your choice to keep investing in the sinking ship.

Anyways, I was not scammed as I bought the ULIPs on my own. No agent forced them down on me. I followed the NAVs closely and after the initial investing period of 3 years, I stopped paying premium for 2 years. And when the market stabilized, I revived it and moved my ULIP to a high-risk band - which gave me 17% more returns than my earlier plan.

Thats the problem! NAVs were rising, but the UNITS were disappearing due to "charges".
Even online, the NAV was only shown, and I knew about the units only when I received a letter reg. the maturity.

Banks and telephone companies and MFs send regular detailed statements. Never got any for my ULIP even when i requested.

Yes, with this logic it's not a scam.

Scam is when someone plays with your emotions to let you part with your money. They gain your confidence and make decisions on your behalf.

One can get easily conned/scammed by that stranded-family-in-an-unfamiliar-place, because of our innate desire to help others. When we give money to such people, we are not expecting it back... it's sort of charity and it makes us feel happy/proud (or whatever). But when it comes to investments, we expect our money back with some profits. Now who is supposed to do the due diligence here? Buyer/investor or the agent? And they even read out the disclosure text for you one the TV. So, you had been warned!

Relatives take advantage of our 'emotions' and try to sell us "stuff we don't need." That's a scam as we are not made aware of the company's real business model. But when it comes to investments/ULIPs etc we have all the necessary documents with us to make a wise decision. And if anything goes wrong, we can always quit midway by paying some penalty or booking some loss. None of the other scam businesses offer such options (Tupperware, Amway, Stranded family, bogus NGOs etc)

Again, agents will show the increasing NAV, but not the decreasing units due to the charges.

A scam is a business-model that is built to cheat a person. Buy-low sell-high is not a scam, because that's a basic trading business. But Buying-low, selling-high, tampering with the goods or concealing facts, on a regular basis, that's a scam.

You can blame the end-user all you want, but LIC has a huge network all over India, and those people certainly can't read fine-print. You think those rural sellers tell their "clients" about the charges?
Just because it is organized, has a seal of approval, and some informed people (like you) can make money out of it, does not make it a non-scam. :)
 
Now, I dont know if this is a scam, but I have noticed that at certain pumps, while filling petrol, they enter the amount to be filled for, depress the handle completely and put the lock so that petrol keeps flowing continously. At other pumps, they keep pressing and releasing the handle. Does anyone think that there might be a variation in the amount of petrol that flows in the tank?
 
^^ Newer machines have all kinds of filling options... so, attendants can go auto (and it saves time). Press-n-release is for older machines or for attendants who can't operate a digital machine.

newer machines are getting better day by day and are difficult to rig... that's why attendants come up new ideas to con people.
 
Most so called BIG and reputed hospitals are scam. I have even heard bad reviews about Kokilaben Dhirubhai Ambani Hospital in Mumbai. Anyways entire reliance is chor so no surprises here.

Ambanis are perhaps biggest thugs in India. In this case, Late Dr. Nitu Mandake (who was awarded ‘The Rajiv Gandhi Gold Medal of Merit’ 1992, ‘Indira Gandhi Sadbhavana Award’ 1999, ‘Outstanding Man Of The 20th Century’ 2000, ‘Pride of India’ 2001, ‘Sarvashri’ Gold Medal 2000 and ‘Maharashtra Gaurav Award among many others) wanted to build hospital which would serve common people.

Unfortunately, it wasn't finished when he was alive and then Reliance approached his widow for the project. The end result is a hospital named after someone who is mother of Mr. Ambani and Dr. Mandake, who wanted to give affordable and high-tech treatments to common man, got his name on a medical convention centre in the same hospital. When the plot was allocated to the trust for the purpose of building a hospital, the condition was to reserve 50% beds for poor people. Now, the five-starred hospital has only 2% beds reserved for the same purpose and along with hospital Reliance has also built spa, beauty salon, business centre and what not.
 
Sorry for the tiny diversion, but i just got screwed by LIC.

We were pulled into "reinvesting" into 2 insurance polices using my dad's LIC insurance money when he passed away. We were influenced by the LIC agents who took the initial policies, and i don't think anyone expects a family in grief to read fine-print.

Both had "Sum assured" as a decent amount.

1) One was an Endowment (which matures next year), pays (apparently) out the "sum assured+bonus" on maturity. (which I still do not know how it'll pan out when it matures.)

2) But turns out that the other was a ULIP, where it turned out that the decent "sum assured" meant something different, and would be paid out only in case of death. In case of maturity, i got the "Guaranteed amount", which is apparently units * NAV. (and as i mentioned earlier, the units was reduced by their numerous "charges"

@gauravH: This is the kind of confusion-by-complications that LIC uses.
 
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Taxi Scam/Cab Scam::Its the most common scam in any country.I saw it first in SCAM CITY on Discovery channel.And yes even in that show the note was under the thigh.One can easily say he gave 500 but the driver will say you said 500 but it was 100.Also mostly the local police are hand in glove.

How to avoid ::Best way will be to register a complain on 100 number and yes avoiding split money.Always give at full and forget change and give round ether more or less.Also if possible try to remember 6 digit of the highest denomination of money you give.If he tricks you say you calling cop and in fron will say the serial number if that notes come from your pocket you will screw the guy royally as your relative works in the best law firm of the city.

Petrol Scam::I guess i was tricked cant recall(its our first car and i was a noob) exactly but i have stopped filling full tank on my Tata Nano.I remembered i paid for 18 lite petrol once where i was sure i had 2 litre in reserve.Later i realized that Nano has 15 litre Tank .Now i just fill 500 or 500 than 500 again from next station and so on.
Also one more scam here is when fuel price increases by say 3 or 4 rupee a litre.Normal petrol is over but premium are available.But premium usually is 20% of the total capacity of normal than how come it last and normal is over.I feel normal is pass as premium in most cases.

Child Scam/Job Scam/Family with luggage/Money for ticket Scam:Same role was done by Ranvir Shorey in the movie Traffic signal.A guy caught me twice or thrice asking for rick or bus fare as he lost his wallet.
How to avoid ::Just say sorry and move on.

Change Scam
::Well here a lady comes and starts asking for change or something.Once you give she says this note not proper and so on and later you will realized that one is 100-200 short .
In my case a lady with small child came to my shop and asked a Fevicol product as i usually avoid lady customers as they try to bargain i quoted almost 1.5 times the product price without realizing its more than MRP.Than she asked for 2-3 more product from shelf and i was sure something is wrong as it was the same product as Fevicol from different company and even the best customer wont do such foolish mistake of buying same product of 3-4 different company.Than she gave me 2 1000's rupee notes(clear note Crisp note) and when i started giving changed she asked for 100s and when i gave she started making sound that i am giving dead notes and she wants crisp back.Than 3 relative of her comes and start asking change and all.Just to confuse me.I said sorry.Than they started bargaining for the women even without knowing what she bought and sying its 1100 you give it for 600.I realized i'll be in wrong hand.I asked for all the change back saying i am giving crisp note.Took those 2(1000)rupee note out picking the product they bought gave those note back.And started shouting if again you come with fake note ill hand over them to Police.They left the place.After 3 years again the same lady comes and again start asking product recently.Lady i dont sell product to you people and she left quietly.

GOD picture donation Scam(Basically a shop guy falls prey)::A person who has gift of the gab will put god photo and start praising you and how lucky you are and will ask donation that you are almost unable tto reuse as the money is ifor a treat for orphan child during some special occassion like Ganesh chauthurti or any festival.He will knowingly put some random name which you know and say he paid this much and atleast you must give that much and its almost say 100-200.

ULIP::I wont say its a scam as its all about timing.Even i once had ULIP and and my first installment ruined 40% to agent.and Next 2 years similarly 12 and 5%.Still 70k invested in 7 year gave me 1.01L.Its just the agent part which mainly ruins one.Once it passes say 6-8 years one can easily come to profit if he tune according to market swings from balanced to aggressive mode.

LIC::Its almost agent driven.One can be easily fooled in sum assured .They say 105% return.But its like for 5 lakh after term end you get 5.25Lakh which is peanuts which no LIC agent will make customer aware.
I recently went to their santacruz office and all over the office they have put banners of their agents with the best agent photo and saying he brought 50 crore business congrats,Another one 10 crore in 2 months congrats.

MLM::
PACL,Qnet,Speak Asia,Sarda,Landmark forum,Mushroom selling,TEAK wood plantation and the list goes on.Wherever one needs to pay money to get earning be sure you are under MLM threat.

Endownment Plan/Child plan::Its better people understand insurance just like a new mobile whatever you pay you wont get same amount back.And invest in term plan and fixed deposit or equity fund.
 
I once read about the international airport prepaid taxi scams in the papers. Mumbai Mirror if I remember correctly. The customer books a taxi, and leaves the airport in the designated cab. After going some distance the taxi develops a snag and stalls. The driver says it will take time to get it repaired and says he will hail another taxi for the passenger. The unsuspecting passenger ends up paying the new taxi as well. And the prepaid driver goes back to wait at the airport.
 
@gauravH: This is the kind of confusion-by-complications that LIC uses.

Sadly, all of you guys who perceive LIC/ULIPs to be scams were actually taken for a ride by their agents. I still don't consider LIC/ULIP themselves to be a scam:

Police case
1) Why you and others on this thread, didn't lodge a police complaint or file a court case against LIC/ULIP when you were allegedly scammed? It's your money afterall; how can someone just usurp it? You signed the agreements and that made you liable for any losses. Do you think this fact stopped you from approaching the authorities? On the other hand, you would've rushed to the police station if you got scammed by some double-your-money-scheme.

Scam for one, scam for all
2) If something is a scam then it has to be a scam for everyone who gets involved with it. All those cases of stranded families, MLM/Ponzi schemes, bogus NGOs etc are scams because whosoever gives them money, gets scammed. Their money is either lost or not used for its intended purpose. So far, LIC/ULIPs have yielded a positive results for me and couple of my colleagues who invested at the same time. How come we didn't lose money? LIC/ULIPs are not a lottery system where money collected from 100s of people is distributed amongst few? Unlike lotteries, there are no winners in LICs or ULIPs. It's the human-factor (agents) that's scamming you.

You could've bailed out at anytime
3) Tell me if any of those MLM schemes give you the option to quit their network by paying some penalty or refunding the money for unsold stuff? Would those fake NGOs give back a part of your money in case their noble cause to save a poor cancer patient is fulfilled? Those stranded families promise that they'd return your money once they reach home safely... do they keep their words? You always have the option to quit paying premiums for LIC/ULIPs and move on with some loss.

Ask questions
4) So, no one bothered to ask the policy providers when they noticed something unexplained in their accounts? Or was it too late (like at the end of their policies)? I log into my demat account at least once a year and connect with their customer care for any doubts. I too had lost some shares because of insufficient funds but that's not a scam. It happened once and I never made that mistake again. Even I didn't know about their rules but I am to be blamed here. And another person on this thread wrote that his ULIP was about to mature but he didn't know the amount he would be getting back. Well, how hard is it to find that out... probably, just a phone call to their customer care? In fact, I went to ICICI Prulife's office to inquire about my ULIPs. I took things under my control after my agent ran away. Now, tell me if you would get any honest answers if you try to question the actual scamesters... Stranded families, Fake NGOs, MLM companies?

Understand the basics
5) Plain insurance policies (LIC types) help a lot when one meets with an accident or expires. It's very unfortunate but the real value of insurance policies is understood when a policy holder passes away. Ironically, if you hold such policy, you can never find out its real value. ULIPs are linked to markets and no one can predict market's behaviour. Why blame your ULIPs if they didn't perform well? If your agents didn't educate you then blame the agents but not the ULIPs/LIC. If you couldn't spend 30 mins to read the documents but spent 5 years paying the premiums then blame yourself... not the agents.

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A lot of guys here belong to IT field... do you guys work without reading the docs? If a client tells you over a phone call to change some code, don't you guys ask for it in writing (CRs/emails)? Did you guys sign your joining docs without reading the offer letter? Didn't you guys ask any questions about the company/work culture during your interviews? A lot of your seniors would've told you to not to make any assumptions... instead, ask questions in case of any doubts. Where do your doubts, documents, agreements vanish when it comes to your money? Most of you would've logged defects against requirements failure but can't file an FIR when you sense a scam? It's very easy to blame the system (LIC/ULIPs).

I can understand a rural person labelling LIC/ULIPs to be scams, but it's hard to digest when an IT guy says that a person (agent) lured him/her to invest in a policy which they never bothered to read/understand.

A lot of you made the mistake to not understand the policies but at least don't brand LIC and ULIPs as scams... it's always the human-factor to be blamed - either you or the agents. :dead:
 
Not really a scam but a very high potential of identity theft and misuse.
Outside many company gates, you will see "agents" of various credit card companies offering credit card. They make you fill form there and then and will say that you will receive the card in X days and you will get verification call. Many a times, they may be bogus agents. Even if they are not bogus, there is a high chance they may sell your info to someone else. Better to apply for credit cards through your bank directly.[DOUBLEPOST=1402975310][/DOUBLEPOST]Since LIC has been mentioned here, can anyone say what all should one ask to the LIC agent before taking a policy. We have couple of LIC policies already taken but want to still ask the agent the requisite questions and may be bail out if required.
 
Not really a scam but a very high potential of identity theft and misuse.
Outside many company gates, you will see "agents" of various credit card companies offering credit card. They make you fill form there and then and will say that you will receive the card in X days and you will get verification call. Many a times, they may be bogus agents. Even if they are not bogus, there is a high chance they may sell your info to someone else. Better to apply for credit cards through your bank directly.

Or they may apply for cards in your name, and run a huge default. Then comes teh collection agent
 
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