Graphic Cards Consoles controlling game quality

[Bluffmaster]

the point is, in every article by game devs(interviews) they report every pirated download as a lost sale, which isn't really the case.

I mean, chances are not even 100,000 liked the game and played it till the end out of 10 million downloads, that makes the actual piracy figure at 100,000, not 10 million as the downloads say.

Look at me, last 1 year, i bought 5 games, dowloaded many more, but from all those, I liked and played till the end only 2 games, TF2(addict) and Crysis 2(even though i complain)..

From all the games I downloaded, I'm thankful I didn't buy, as I didn't play any of them after 2-3 hours, because mostly they were milked brands(AS) or dumbo'ed games(DA2)... and had I bought them, it would have been a complete waste.

Now, these downloads are not lost sales, not pirated copies, as the downloaded didn't even bother to keep the game with him for more than 2 days....

And I thought we had Game Demos precisely for doing just that. Didn't know some of us needed to play the "full game" in order to get an idea of how good or bad it was. Please remember, Videogames like all forms of entertainment are a business, like films they have every right to entice you to buy their product by showing a gameplay trailer or releasing a demo, now whether you end up liking their final product is not their problem. Please stop justifying piracy to yourself. No matter what you believe, piracy can never be justified. I am a pirate too but I do not justify piracy to myself, its wrong and unfair to parties involved in making of a game, period.

Piracy is not the big issue.Piracy can easily be checked.Imagine the game studios which imply so much of technology into the gaming industry,couldn't it just prevent cracking of a game,now there are many applications which are nearly impossible to crack and no matter how much you search the internet you can't get a working pirated version of it.Which means that the technology is still present to protect the PC games,but game developers are not implementing it.

They are neither protecting nor developing.who's fault is this?Well I think you guys know well.

So, are you implying that the developers are deliberately letting their games get cracked? Please remember that protecting a game from piracy is not an easy task. Even if they do end up implementing some hardass DRM which is near impossible to crack, the honest people who actually support them and buy their game would suffer from it. Remember the infamous "Starforce"? It was tough to crack but ubisoft did more damage to their image by implementing it which I am sure they would have realized now was not worth the extra profits to them. Besides, every DRM no matter how complex it is is bound to get cracked sooner or later. You do not see some softwares get cracked simply because there isn't a great demand for them.

 

[comp@ddict]

EDIT:

Well, everyone has different thought's about piracy, lets not start word war III for that.

Back to topic, CONSOLES ARE CONTROLLING GAME QUALITY

 

[Aman27deep]

Of all the people ridiculing comp@ddict, i certainly ain't one of them cause you have to take the view of every individual into point not not make fun of someone's Point-of-view.

My view on the OP's topic is that, yes, consoles are definitely holding PC back. Looking at games like Crysis 2 and Darksiders on the PC would make that very clear to you. Crysis 1/warhead had a deeply immense customizable graphics menu layout, now Crysis 2's menu settings would make any true PC gamer cry. Some time back we were promised DX 11 at launch, but now its nearly one month after the official launch of the game, and the DX 11 patch is nowhere to be found. As for Darksiders, IIRC there was NO GRAPHICAL OPTION that you could customize in this game, seriously i am not kidding, only the resolution, nothing else, that is a direct console port if you ask me.

As for the piracy topic going on here, i totally agree with Bluffmaster that one can never justify pirating a game (until and unless it is Activision's PC variants of COD, for me anyway), but you also have to take what comp@ddict has said into account as it is the viewpoint of many gamers mostly pirates).

He is saying that he pirated the games that he pirated because there was no way he was gonna buy those games anyway (I agree with him on this one, as I for one wouldn't ever buy shitty games such as MOH or COD:BO). Although that's like saying "I downloaded and saw the movie as i wasn't gonna buy its DVD anyway". Piracy hurts movies and games alike, more so to games as games really do not make money out of its soundtrack/licensing like that movies.

But the same thing hurts really good games a lot. Games like Just Cause 2, Mass Effect 1 and 2, Assassin's creed 1 and 2 and many more are just very awesome games (Assassin's creed 1 not that much), but most people will pirate those games just cause that game doesn't have a MP mode or something (10 of my friends gave me this reason).

There can be so many reasons why one pirates a game, but for me that reason is simply the lack of money. I am a student who survives on whatever my parent's give me. But yeah, after i get a paying job (I am in a non-paying job right now, kind of a training), i certainly would try and buy 2-3 games a month, but not now, cause i can't now.

 

[Bluffmaster]

As for the piracy topic going on here, i totally agree with Bluffmaster that one can never justify pirating a game (until and unless it is Activision's PC variants of COD, for me anyway), but you also have to take what comp@ddict has said into account as it is the viewpoint of many gamers mostly pirates).

He is saying that he pirated the games that he pirated because there was no way he was gonna buy those games anyway (I agree with him on this one, as I for one wouldn't ever buy shitty games such as MOH or COD:BO). Although that's like saying "I downloaded and saw the movie as i wasn't gonna buy its DVD anyway". Piracy hurts movies and games alike, more so to games as games really do not make money out of its soundtrack/licensing like that movies.

Thats some twisted logic. If you do not intend to buy a game, you have absolutely no "right" to play it. I am capable of understanding different viewpoints but it baffles me up when someone tries to justify piracy to themselves. If thats your way to clear your consciousness, its fine by me.

There can be so many reasons why one pirates a game, but for me that reason is simply the lack of money. I am a student who survives on whatever my parent's give me. But yeah, after i get a paying job (I am in a non-paying job right now, kind of a training), i certainly would try and buy 2-3 games a month, but not now, cause i can't now.

Once a pirate, always a pirate. Trust me on this one. Even I have started earning but I would spend my dough on booze anyday than buy a game which I can get for free anyways.

Look, Piracy exists because there is no strict law keeping a tab on it. You will be amazed to know what we ordinary human beings are capable of if there was no law enforcement governing our activities. Piracy is a crime yet many of us indulge in it because there is no fear of being implicated or punished for our actions. Also, because we feel its harmless and will not effect anyone. Was there a fear of going to jail for pirating, 99% of us wouldn't be doing it.

 

[comp@ddict]

Of all the people ridiculing comp@ddict, i certainly ain't one of them cause you have to take the view of every individual into point not not make fun of someone's Point-of-view.

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thanks man, I thought about posting, but as you see, I edited my previous post 3 times, and the last time was to end that conversation with the thought that everyone has their own opinion, I was just sharing mine, and kestrel was, well sharing his opinion on my opinion..

As for the piracy topic going on here, i totally agree with Bluffmaster that one can never justify pirating a game (until and unless it is Activision's PC variants of COD, for me anyway), but you also have to take what comp@ddict has said into account as it is the viewpoint of many gamers mostly pirates).

But the same thing hurts really good games a lot. Games like Just Cause 2, Mass Effect 1 and 2, Assassin's creed 1 and 2 and many more are just very awesome games (Assassin's creed 1 not that much), but most people will pirate those games just cause that game doesn't have a MP mode or something (10 of my friends gave me this reason).

ya, i admit, I PIRATED ASC 1 and ME1, but I bought it when it was available for 500 bucks (but then again I pirated the DLC so sorry )

Once a pirate, always a pirate. Trust me on this one. Even I have started earning but I would spend my dough on booze anyday than buy a game which I can get for free anyways.

haha, u say as if your word is the ULTIMATUM

. rephrase:

Pirates will continue to pirate, and those who buy games will always buy.

but my friend, the new breed pirates and buys games, trust me it happens. maybe you're not one of them, but the one who's typing this post, which you must be reading right now is of that hybrid genre.

Thats some twisted logic. If you do not intend to buy a game, you have absolutely no "right" to play it.

aah but see, thats your opinion. now people think differently you know..

 

[Aman27deep]

Thats some twisted logic. If you do not intend to buy a game, you have absolutely no "right" to play it. I am capable of understanding different viewpoints but it baffles me up when someone tries to justify piracy to themselves. If thats your way to clear your consciousness, its fine by me.

I see it as, if i download and watch a movie, it wasn't gonna be a movie which i would have gone to the Hall to see, so the same for the games.

Once a pirate, always a pirate. Trust me on this one. Even I have started earning but I would spend my dough on booze anyday than buy a game which I can get for free anyways.

Umm until and unless i get it for free, no alcohol for me! And btw i ain't like you. Games are a very big part of my life, and if as a gamer i don't support gaming, then of what use is loving gaming for me?

Its like u love booze and you purchase it. I love gaming and i rather buy games.

And BTW i am a twisted SOB. And you opinions don't have to tally with mine. Every person is different.

 

[F3niX]

I Buy only Console games and I am just a beginner there...

In PC games,i buy one every year or so...

And that is only the GOTY version or the game i Like...

Later i just pass them on to my friend

 

[Bluffmaster]

I give up. FYI, I would never buy booze if I could get it for free.

 

[Zinc]

Alrite guys, I think we're drifting away too far.

Consoles are definitely controlling game graphics, but not the quality.

There are still a lot of developers who are willing to make quality games for PC, as can be seen here: The Escapist : Tournament : 2011 March Mayhem: Developer's Showdown

The top four are major PC developers.

Valve even says that its not too much bothered about piracy.

Its tackling piracy with smart pricing, excellent services and obviously a whole streak of critically acclaimed games.

 

[Ameet148]

Has somebody played crysis @ 4000X3000 resolution?How realistic does it look?

Just want to know how it looks and feels.

Battlefield 3 frostbite 2 game engine.Great expectations from this game.

 

[comp@ddict]

Valve even says that its not too much bothered about piracy.

Its tackling piracy with smart pricing, excellent services and obviously a whole streak of critically acclaimed games.

exactly, pirates will pirate, they are nullified, out of the equation itself.

Battlefield 3 frostbite 2 game engine.Great expectations from this game.

after the crysis 2 fiasco(i mean we all had soo many hopes didn't we), I sure hope BF3 lives up. It's not the engine, I mean I can hardly wait to get my hands on the CE3 SDK(the engine is beyond awesome), it's the game, and the effects of consoles.

Moreover, I'm surprised they didn't do higher res textures(have u seen the trees? the leaves look like spinach after i vomit it out).. for PC.

 

[jojothedragon]

Digital Versions seriously kickin' piracy in the arse.