Health & Fitness Corona is in full swing and its not Joke !

raksrules said:
Can someone explain what is happening after one starts quarantining himself, has tested, turns positive and then has doctor recommended medicines.
And post 14 days, most don't even get retested and if they do it comes negative.

So what causes report to come negative after 14 days or so? My doctor told me it is not even needed to do re test.
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It's likely that after 2 weeks you're not spreading the virus. That's it!!
 
raksrules said:
Can someone explain what is happening after one starts quarantining himself, has tested, turns positive and then has doctor recommended medicines.
And post 14 days, most don't even get retested and if they do it comes negative.

So what causes report to come negative after 14 days or so? My doctor told me it is not even needed to do re test.
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From what I have seen (based on infections in close family and friends), everything depends on viral load and how bad your infection is. For mild and asymptomatic patients, it should go away in 14 days and there is no need for further test unless symptoms aggravate or show up. For more serious cases, further covid tests are done at regular intervals and until you get a negative test, you have to be in quarantine state.
 
raksrules said:
Can someone explain what is happening after one starts quarantining himself, has tested, turns positive and then has doctor recommended medicines.
And post 14 days, most don't even get retested and if they do it comes negative.

So what causes report to come negative after 14 days or so? My doctor told me it is not even needed to do re test.
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Not sure if it is mandatory to test yourself after 14 days but for self satisfaction it is better to get the test done to find whether you have recovered or not.
In case if you still have symptoms like loss of taste and smell, fever or breathing issues then it is better to check with your doctor and get your medicines changed.
 
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As the dead pile up in Gujarat, the state’s media is on a warpath with the government over Covid-19

Media reports from Gujarat allege that the government is severely undercounting Covid-19 deaths in the state.
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Madhya Pradesh Hiding Covid Deaths? Cremations Challenge Official Data

Bodies are piling up at crematoriums and burial grounds in Madhya Pradesh, reflecting a steep rise in Covid cases, but there seems to be an unexplained gap between the official daily death count released by the state government and the ground reality
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www.hindustantimes.com

Death in Covid times: Cremation grounds, graveyards in Lucknow overburdened

LUCKNOW With the Covid tally rising, cremation grounds and graveyards in Lucknow are overburdened having received more bodies than usual during the last few days
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Mr.J said:
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As the dead pile up in Gujarat, the state’s media is on a warpath with the government over Covid-19

Media reports from Gujarat allege that the government is severely undercounting Covid-19 deaths in the state.
scroll.in scroll.in

www.ndtv.com

Madhya Pradesh Hiding Covid Deaths? Cremations Challenge Official Data

Bodies are piling up at crematoriums and burial grounds in Madhya Pradesh, reflecting a steep rise in Covid cases, but there seems to be an unexplained gap between the official daily death count released by the state government and the ground reality
www.ndtv.com www.ndtv.com

www.hindustantimes.com

Death in Covid times: Cremation grounds, graveyards in Lucknow overburdened

LUCKNOW With the Covid tally rising, cremation grounds and graveyards in Lucknow are overburdened having received more bodies than usual during the last few days
www.hindustantimes.com www.hindustantimes.com
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We will literally never know how many people we lost to this because the government is fudging numbers like there is no tomorrow.

At the Bhadbhada cremation ground and Subhash Nagar Ghat, AajTak found a total of 187 bodies were cremated at the two sites between Thursday and Sunday under the Covid protocols. However, the official Covid-19 death toll remained at five.
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Bhopal crematoriums flooded with bodies: 187 cremated following Covid norms while records show only 5 deaths

At the two crematoriums in Bhopal, 187 bodies were cremated following Covid protocols in four days while the official death toll remained at five.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in

And we are yet to see what the super spreader event in Haridwar gets us 4-6 weeks from now when all those millions go back to their home states.
 
Anybody seen the AIIMS guidelines published on 7th April?
What are these people smoking these days? RR of 24 and oxygen sat of 94 is the cut-off for moderate disease!!
If these people had any contact with real patients...almost every minimally symptomatic patient will have a saturation less than 94 ( often less than 90) during sleep with ZERO changes in CT scan.
A perfectly healthy adult can have RR of 24 ( how many of you have resting HR above 90? Most of you are having RR of 24 after walking 10 steps or less, often more than 35 after climbing up a step of stairs)
AIIMS forgot to mention the most important thing...How long do you observe a low oxygen saturation or respiratory rate before calling it a moderate or severe disease. What are the criteria of repeating a CT scan etc.
They are still recommending Remdesivir for moderate disease, even plasma therapy ( it can cause VERY SEVERE reaction and kill the patient with an already badly triggered immune system)
I know these are somewhat technical things and beyond the scope of this forum, but please be careful and don't be afraid to ask your doctor questions.
 
ibose said:
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"Strong Evidence" Covid Predominantly Spreads Through Air: Lancet

A new assessment in the medical journal Lancet has found "consistent, strong evidence" that the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, is predominantly transmitted through the air.
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No idea of how reliable Lancet is, will defer to the docs to comment on this ..
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I totally believe it's airborne. The droplet theory, IMO, was to ensure people don't panic, and to show that we can control it. It becomes extremely difficult to control once it's airborne (vs droplet).
 
Mr.J said:
Like this? https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aEp0vgG_700bwp.webp
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If it works it works
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Antibody Response after First-dose of ChAdOx1-nCOV (Covishield™®) and BBV-152 (Covaxin™®) amongst Health Care Workers in India: Preliminary Results of Cross-sectional Coronavirus Vaccine-induced Antibody Titre (COVAT) study

Background Two vaccines are currently being administered in India to prevent the spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). We assessed the humoral immune response after the first dose of two vaccines ChAdOx1-nCOV (Covishield™) and BBV-152 (Covaxin™) in Indian health...
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And where are studies to confirm anti spike antibody is protective in nature? In case of doing a meaningless humoral antibody response, if they really collected the data of 552 HCWs could have followed them after 8-12 weeks and did a study on how many of them got infected under similar exposure in covishield and covaxin arm and could calculate the p value ( to see if these vaccines have any significant protective value or not!!?? Of course they won't, and nobody would publish the paper...they could have then attach another study on disease severity along this vaccinated population with high exposure history Vs non vaccinated with lower chance of exposure, calculate the same predictive value..which possibly could show some protective value of these vaccines..now it would have been published)
The internet is flooded with meaningless studies, I get raw data of hundreds of such studies for statistical calculations emailed to me on a daily basis from everywhere ( this is very common in medical field, we medical statistics people help friends/ colleagues direct/ indirect.. just with the calculations)
The latest trend is to measure antibody titre and trying to correlate it with vaccinations. However no one bothers to check antibody titre with recovered cases these days ( as few did those and there were absolutely no relationship between spike antibody titre and clinical recovery, many recovered with titre less than 1, many succumbed with very high titre...what does this mean? Pretty simple...spike antibody is useless to predict outcome...there's nothing new in it...same happened with influenza, avian flu etc.etc.)
I couldn't find article which deals with the proper MOA of Covaxin. Even finding the constituents of the same was very difficult.
Sputnik and mRNA vaccines may end up ineffective, but at least a common person can understand how they planned it to work.
 
red dragon said:
And where are studies to confirm anti spike antibody is protective in nature? In case of doing a meaningless humoral antibody response, if they really collected the data of 552 HCWs could have followed them after 8-12 weeks and did a study on how many of them got infected under similar exposure in covishield and covaxin arm and could calculate the p value ( to see if these vaccines have any significant protective value or not!!?? Of course they won't, and nobody would publish the paper...they could have then attach another study on disease severity along this vaccinated population with high exposure history Vs non vaccinated with lower chance of exposure, calculate the same predictive value..which possibly could show some protective value of these vaccines..now it would have been published)
The internet is flooded with meaningless studies, I get raw data of hundreds of such studies for statistical calculations emailed to me on a daily basis from everywhere ( this is very common in medical field, we medical statistics people help friends/ colleagues direct/ indirect.. just with the calculations)
The latest trend is to measure antibody titre and trying to correlate it with vaccinations. However no one bothers to check antibody titre with recovered cases these days ( as few did those and there were absolutely no relationship between spike antibody titre and clinical recovery, many recovered with titre less than 1, many succumbed with very high titre...what does this mean? Pretty simple...spike antibody is useless to predict outcome...there's nothing new in it...same happened with influenza, avian flu etc.etc.)
I couldn't find article which deals with the proper MOA of Covaxin. Even finding the constituents of the same was very difficult.
Sputnik and mRNA vaccines may end up ineffective, but at least a common person can understand how they planned it to work.
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Does that mean vaccines are useless or do they help in preventing severe covid/death as said by many doctors, articles. Also layman terms would do for most of us, none apart from the medical field people could relate to or make sense of all the technical stuff you're saying.
 
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