Health & Fitness Corona is in full swing and its not Joke !

Army in India is seen in the context of support role. They help with the rescue, relief ops and go back to their bases. What is lacking in India is the health infrastructure. Even if Army steps in and helps to bring the diseased to the hospitals, after that what?
Who will get the beds, the medical infrastructure? That's not it.. this will take a lot of toll on the Army because usually their deployment is selective, eg. if floods in Himachal in a specific district then they are deployed to that district. This pandemic is across India. If the Army comes in then who will be at the borders. If the military medical infrastructure is diverted towards civilian purpose(which it has on a limited basis)then what will happen if the army personnel fall sick. We already have hostile relations with both neighbours and the last thing the country wants is a medically unfit army at the border.
 
1. Moist oxygen is given to a patient ( moisture is added to it from a small glass container)...the water was probably changed in 1947, greenish brown in colour.

2. When a person gets admitted he gets every possible useless medicines, zinc, calcium, doxycycline, ivermectin, whatever antibiotic is the flavour of the month...nothing improves...day 2...add Remdesivir ( pt is on 11 th day of symptoms) hoping Remdesivir will fight with fragmented RNAs...of course nothing improves....specialist time....arrives...in PPE, but a gross looking tie is visible below PPE...adds Tocilizumab, goes home to remember didn't check IL6 levels..**** it...de to diya, aur kya!!

3. Patient worsens, if very lucky a ventilator from 80s without BIPAP mode ( logic: we have BIPAP machines...assholes don't know you can't attach an intubated patient to such BIPAP machines)

4. A resident at 3 am realises, pt is not getting steroids, called up the boss...who spends 45 minutes in ICU daily...wakes up from a drunken stupor...****ing idiot!! Is it a time to call? Give the "best" steroid.....solumedrol 1 gram in a diabetic with baseline sugar of 350.

5. Next morning, pt is alive but vomiting, CBG- high ( no value), start insulin ( don't check for ketones or even potassium)
Patient noted expired at 12:30 pm, cause of death uncontrollable seizures ( was actually having choreoathetoid movements of extreme hyperglycemia followed by neuroglycopenia)
Where is covid? How covid killed him/ her? You foreigners don't rely on experience, only books and books...it doesn't work in India.

My silent observation of what's going on...even if you get bed, doctors, ventilators.
Moral: just forget everything, paracetamol and steroids in proper dose are the only option for ALL serious covid disease. And a non insane doctor who doesn't prescribe zinc and calcium even to a 35 year old otherwise healthy male.
psyph3r said:
Population of Czechia is lesser than the city of Mumbai so it's a silly comparison.
It's the failure of both the state and central governments, Army won't be able to do much after every govt. body has dropped the ball already.
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And Czechia's army size? So according to you Indian army can't take care of a city like Delhi/ Mumbai? Did they even try?
Then why do we blame Modi? Looks like nothing/ nobody can do anything for India...then why even try? Modi understood it and now chilling. And we idiots from other countries voluntarily came here to help and die if necessary, but the army can't, because it's a big country... beautiful!!
How many people died in Kargil? How many in last 7 days? And how many in next 6 weeks, even Ganges won't be able to hold so many bodies.
When the people of the country have given up, no one can help.
psyph3r said:
Population of Czechia is lesser than the city of Mumbai so it's a silly comparison.
It's the failure of both the state and central governments, Army won't be able to do much after every govt. body has dropped the ball already.
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And Czechia's army size? So according to you Indian army can't take care of a city like Delhi/ Mumbai? Did they even try?
Then why do we blame Modi? Looks like nothing/ nobody can do anything for India...then why even try? Modi understood it and now chilling. And we idiots from other countries voluntarily came here to help and die if necessary, but the army can't, because it's a big country... beautiful!!
How many people died in Kargil? How many in last 7 days? And how many in next 6 weeks, even Ganges won't be able to hold so many bodies.
When the people of the country have given up, no one can help.
 
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red dragon said:
Pardon my ignorance, but I truly don't know much about constitution of India or any other nation.
2 of the people with whom I've come to India are French nationals and they were in Army for many years.They never criticise or even discuss indian government in front of me. One of them casually asked about army hospitals in Kolkata and one thing lead to another.
I was under the assumption that the armed force of a nation works under central government and or president.
Both of them couldn't supress their laughter and basically told armed forces of a country can defy any political party and take complete control of a nation and in French it's called coup d'état
Of course I've heard the word coup, but apparently didn't know the meaning. I was in Sierra Leone during Ebola outbreak in 2016 and the Liberian army almost did that in their country ( I've heard this word million times during those days).
I may be completely wrong, but isn't army supposed to at least help common people during times like these?
In fact India is the first country where we haven't seen a single army personnel yet during an epidemic.
According to our protocol we are supposed to co ordinate with the deployed army unit locally on arrival!!
It's the army who brings in sick people not having family members everywhere in EU. I was under assumption ( it's the perception of all common people in Europe) that India can't invest in healthcare as it has to maintain a HUGE number of armed force personnel.
I can confirm one thing about vaccine: West Bengal including kolkata has no stock of Covaxin at present ( even the last few thousand shots were given today @ Burdwan Medical College and hospital)
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Why there has never been a military dictatorship in India

Stephen Wilkinson looks at this question in his new book, ‘Army and Nation’.
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Furthermore, the forces are very diversified, and the Army is outmunbered by other para military forces like BSF, CISF, CRPF, ITBP, which are all headed by IPS officers as DG, even at ADG and IG level around 3/4th posts are filled by IPS. The IPS, in turn, work under the supervision of IAS directly or indirectly at almost all levels.
In the the defence ministry too, till recently, military officers were not appointed even as joint secretary.
In short, there is enough civilian control to render coups a far cry.
But, some things are changing under current govt. Armed forces form an important piller in modi’s election winning machinery, to elate the voters and evoke nationalism through surgical strikes and other stunts against pakistan. Bipan rawat has been more vocal than his predecessors on governance and even political matters. He has been made the CDS and surprisingly the secretary of the newly formed Dept of Military Affairs, manned by uniformed officers which is hopes to replace Dept of Defence, manned by civilian officers. Just scratching each others back.

Regarding, relief work, army does come to the rescue under the national disaster management act. The National disaster management authority doesn’t have its own cadre, and is mainly filled by army officers as seen during disasters such asfloods and earthquakes.
 
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Can we have a list of all the good masks available on amazon or any other website and if amazon then genuine sellers selling genuine masks.

Today I got one N95 Venus type mask from grofers (they gave free as part of their care package they gave with my grocery delivery) and I felt it was very comfortable.
 
psyph3r said:
FYI Indian Army doesn't guard any border except LoC, that's the job of ITBP, AR, BSF, etc
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90k soldiers are deployed only in ladakh after Chinese intrusion last year don't know how much are are deployed in other parts along LAC.Now after roads are cleared of ice fresh troops will take their place and those deployed will be stationed in lower altitude areas.There was PIL in supreme court to deploy army to handle pandemic but center govt rejected stating army is already under lots of pressure and can't be deployed.Chinese troops withdrew from pangong tso area where they were under direct range of IA guns and as soon indian army left key position in mangroves range Chinese refused to withdrew from depsang and hot spring area.another blunder from govt which no media is showing.
 
Any genuine N95 mask will have NIOSH written somewhere in the front of the mask. ALL the 3M and Venus ( that's a newer brand to me) masks I've seen yet in kolkata are 100 percent counterfeit.
A proper 3M N95 mask will never make you feel comfortable. That's how it's designed...to protect, comfort is secondary. Sad but true.
We carried hundreds of N95 masks, mostly 3M and few Fangtians. They are much thicker and lighter compared to what's available in India.
 
I am using Jockey masks coupled with a surgical mask. There seems to be issue with the quality of the masks especially N-95 being sold through Amazon.

If you are wearing any mask and if it passes the candle blow test, I think you are good to go.
 
What exactly armed forces are guarding? A piece of land, where millions have died in less than a month and more millions are going to for weeks and months. Even if the virus vanishes now, dead bodies will continue to accumulate for next 8-12 weeks.
What will be they guarding after a month...a piece of land of burning piers, mass graves, orphaned kids, ravaged families and few politicians and their megalomania.
We all know Modi doesn't have a brain, does he have a heart inside that 56 inch cage? Or is it too filled up with cow dung!?
Why can't he turned his hatred for mankind to a virus for few months?
He has a brilliant CV as mass murderer, why not add some virus to that list. Trump's scientists have found out this is a Muslim virus, which has been trained to destroy mandirs and statues in India.
 
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red dragon said:
Any genuine N95 mask will have NIOSH written somewhere in the front of the mask. ALL the 3M and Venus ( that's a newer brand to me) masks I've seen yet in kolkata are 100 percent counterfeit.
A proper 3M N95 mask will never make you feel comfortable. That's how it's designed...to protect, comfort is secondary. Sad but true.
We carried hundreds of N95 masks, mostly 3M and few Fangtians. They are much thicker and lighter compared to what's available in India.
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Got it from FB group dealing in masks and ppe kit,oxymeters,gloves etc most items are couterfeited
 
Tejas01 said:
I am using Jockey masks coupled with a surgical mask. There seems to be issue with the quality of the masks especially N-95 being sold through Amazon.

If you are wearing any mask and if it passes the candle blow test, I think you are good to go.
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Candle blowing only shows how effective a surgical mask is in preventing spread. None of these masks, especially double masks, are technically meant to protect the wearer against Covid; they effectively prevent spread though.
Only well-fit respirators give that protection as far as I know.
 
red dragon said:
If you're getting anxious about masks, forget them all and get 3M 6200 plastic masks with P100 filters.
We are using those from yesterday. Spoke to our lab at Geneva, they told us to ditch the useless PPE and use only scrub suits and P100. That's it...much more comfortable.
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Haha as much as I like doing that and don't mind it, it'll scare the sh*t out of others when they see someone walking around with that on the street.
 
red dragon said:
And Czechia's army size? So according to you Indian army can't take care of a city like Delhi/ Mumbai? Did they even try?
Then why do we blame Modi? Looks like nothing/ nobody can do anything for India...then why even try? Modi understood it and now chilling. And we idiots from other countries voluntarily came here to help and die if necessary, but the army can't, because it's a big country... beautiful!!
How many people died in Kargil? How many in last 7 days? And how many in next 6 weeks, even Ganges won't be able to hold so many bodies.
When the people of the country have given up, no one can help.
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Like i said it's a silly comparison, when was the last time a Czechia soldier fired a bullet in combat on their borders ? No wonder they have the time to clean driveways.
In our situation the Army can't do much apart from running some facilities with limited no, of beds which they have done for now.
As for deploying them into cities, as if the local governments are going to admit mismanagement and total failure in the public eye, just look at the dead body situation in the Ganges, both Bihar & UP govts are pointing fingers at each other.
 
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Got it from FB group dealing in masks and ppe kit,oxymeters,gloves etc most items are couterfeited
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Which one is the copy? Yellow or red?
I got the yellow ones from a hospital pharmacy in Chennai, even the doctors in the hospital were using the yellow ones.

Also any thoughts on this, not sure if they're saying recovered ones to wait for 6 months because of immunity or vaccine shortage!!

The National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (NTAGI) on Thursday said those who recovered from Covid-19 should wait for six months before getting vaccinated.

The government panel said those having laboratory test-proven SARS-CoV-2 illness should defer Covid-19 vaccination for six months after recovery.

In the case of individuals who have received the first dose and before completion of the dosing schedule if they test positive for Covid-19, they should wait for 4-8 weeks after clinical recovery from the illness.

Also, Covid-19 patients who have been given anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma may defer Covid-19 vaccination for three months from the day of discharge from hospital, the recommendations stated.
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Source : https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavir...nths-wait-government-panel-1802089-2021-05-13
 
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