The ones without “niosh” are fake.How to check if it's copy? Even in their website they're showing the yellow one
The ones without “niosh” are fake.How to check if it's copy? Even in their website they're showing the yellow one
Check lot number on mask and packing.look carefully in picture copy doesn't have a lot number.i am talking about above picture only all masks with yellow straps are not copy.How to check if it's copy? Even in their website they're showing the yellow one
The ones I have look just like the one in the pic, guess it's a copy then. I don't get how even the hospitals are getting fake ones. They are actually good though, better than the savlon ffp2 mask I had before.Check lot number on mask and packing.look carefully in picture copy doesn't have a lot number.i am talking about above picture only all masks with yellow straps are not copy.
I think you're referring to TC number which can be easily faked because the one I have has TC number too which when I entered in CDC niosh site it showed manufacturer as Venus, attached screenshot. That number is same throughout all Venus 4400 masks, even in the photo attached by Ashoka1 it has the same TC number.I just placed order of the V4400 from Amazon. Seller's name is PankyPunnu E-Commerce Private Limited (by default Royal India was chosen as the seller). It was AZ fulfilled. I messaged the seller beforehand enquiring whether they are original and the reply screenshot is attached. There's a review saying one can check the lot no. on CDC website, that's what I will be doing to check whether they are authentic.
Understood. Then what should I do, cancel the order or wait for them to come and check the package for any anomalies?I think you're referring to TC number which can be easily faked because the one I have has TC number too which when I entered in CDC niosh site it showed manufacturer as Venus, attached screenshot. That number is same throughout all Venus 4400 masks, even in the photo attached by Ashoka1 it has the same TC number.
No idea, I guess if it has lot number then it probably will be genuine. I'm thinking of mailing them asking for genuine distributor/retailer names.Understood. Then what should I do, cancel the order or wait for them to come and check the package for any anomalies?
Thanks. I will check whether they have lot no. or not upon receiving the package. I will keep posted.No idea, I guess if it has lot number then it probably will be genuine. I have mailed them asking for genuine distributor/retailer names.
I was about to but not able to find their email addressThanks. I will check whether they have lot no. or not upon receiving the package. I will keep posted.
You emailed at which address the one at the homepage, info@ one?
Oh. It's right on their home page,I was about to but not able to find their email address
Will send a mail, hope they reply. It's the same with 3m products no idea which seller is genuine.Oh. It's right on their home page,
info@venusohs.com
For 3M they have a list of their ADs/ARs on their website, but I am pretty certain that list is not up to date. As someone from Kolkata couldn't find any ADs listed, so I emailed them, I think I attached their reply few pages back here. Someone called me from their side, the regional contact for Kolkata/ W.B and asked me which products I need and whether I am a doctor. I convinced him to procure some 9105s for me but I don't have a car to visit their ADs and I am not using public transport in the meantime.Will send a mail, hope they reply. It's the same with 3m products no idea which seller is genuine.
This!! This was the word I was looking for. But what does happen in an Indian emergency. According to people here, army is busy trading bullets in the borders with God knows what, most state governments have no clues of what's going on, central government just don't care, what happens in emergency?india needs to declare emergency.
Yes, they are legit. I tried a few fake ones. It takes 2 seconds to figure out. Proper N95 masks are designed to suffocate a person.^ Yup, I have the same and they are legit. My folks are practically suffocated when wearing them and keep on cribbing about it but I remind them that it's better a mask is suffocating you rather than the 'Rona !
Thanks. Who was the Amazon seller?I bought from surgical world on Amazon rs 2000 for 20 respirators pack.
This!! This was the word I was looking for. But what does happen in an Indian emergency. According to people here, army is busy trading bullets in the borders with God knows what, most state governments have no clues of what's going on, central government just don't care, what happens in emergency?
Who takes over? Apparantly India is so big, even one of the largest army in the world can not control it.
Bro, the army can't do anything over here. Since last few years, we have dedicated Disaster Relief teams which are run by defense personnel and they do remarkable work. However, in this pandemic, it has affected whole of India and the sheer numbers of our population means that army can't even do anything.This!! This was the word I was looking for. But what does happen in an Indian emergency. According to people here, army is busy trading bullets in the borders with God knows what, most state governments have no clues of what's going on, central government just don't care, what happens in emergency?
Who takes over? Apparantly India is so big, even one of the largest army in the world can not control it.
Indian army is busy trading bullets with invisible enemies, you honestly think they have the time to deal with these petty matters?
People who are still after masks.....boss, the people who suggested masks/ distancing etc. never saw anything like this in their lifetimes ( what's happening in India on a daily basis) Nobody ever heard of 20 percent test positivity rate for 2/3 weeks ( because human race can't sustain at this kind of transmission rate with this rate beyond 3-4 days, unless they are missing 90 percent cases everyday in reality..do the maths..India must be 50-60 percent infected already...immunity will come after minimum of 6 weeks after such kind of ULTRA MASSIVE TRANSMISSION) With 70 crores infected people roaming around
no amount of protective gear can save one. Nobody alive has seen this kind of transmission anywhere.
If this was a Chinese virus the epidemic it produced in India is unique to India, it's an Indian manmade epidemic. US didn't see one tenth of it in reality, nobody has.
I would have never believed it...but I'm right in the middle of it all, witnessing everything still in disbelief.
Epidemic is pretty much 80 percent of everything I've read for 10 years in medical school and college after graduation. And in utter despair, called up many of my Indian professors, 2 of them have passed away very recently, these are people who read and taught epidemiology like Bible for 30-35 years, none of them came to TV or newspapers, they just watched silently and now trembling for their lives. They know how this virus will catch them, just calculating when...their only advice..." What the hell are you doing here, run away and expose what you people are seeing to the rest of the world" I called them to ask questions about epidemiology, complex calculations but they were not interested, as nothing we knew of as epidemiological principles don't hold true anymore for India.
Now its natural selection and survival of the fittest for India.
Yes, they are legit. I tried a few fake ones. It takes 2 seconds to figure out. Proper N95 masks are designed to suffocate a person.
Notwithstanding anything in the foregoing provisions of this Part, Parliament may by law indemnify any person in the service of the Union or of a State or any other person in respect of any act done by him in connection with the maintenance or restoration of order in any area within the territory of India where martial law was in force or validate any sentence passed, punishment inflicted, forfeiture ordered or other act done under martial law in such area.
Debate Summary
Article 34 of the Constitution was one of the few provisions that were not part of the Draft Constitution 1948. It was introduced and debated in the Assembly towards the end of the constitution-making process on 14 and 16 November 1949. The Article restricted fundamental rights during the operation of martial law by giving officers of the state certain powers.
Two substantive amendments were moved to oppose the Article. The first wanted the delete the Draft Article as it was an open invitation to officers of the state to indulge in excesses during martial law. The second wanted to remove ‘any person’ from the text arguing that there was no need to extend the immunity provided the Article to individuals who were not officers of the state.
Both amendments were countered. First, it was explained that a military officer, to successfully engage with a situation of ‘insurrection or rebellion or the overthrow of the state’, required the ability to pass orders and prescribe procedures for cases where his/her orders were violated. These powers were barred by Article 20 and 21, as the military officer was not a law-making person and the procedure that he/she prescribes would not come under ‘procedures accordingly to law’. The Draft Article, therefore, was indispensable for the military or any officer of the state to discharge his/her duties effectively during martial law.
Further, it was clarified that is some cases, the onus might shift on a civilian who might not be an officer of the state to act in ways to deal with a martial law situation. In these cases, the civilian’s actions must come under the ambit of the Draft Article.
At the end of the debate, the Assembly adopted Article 34 with no amendment.