Front loading or top loading washing machine?

Kaleen Bhaiya said:
The older lg models had issues with the gasket, but that was more to do with machine vibration and running away rather than leakage. The newer models have been replaced with a thicker and a firm gasket to ensure machine vibration reduce.
Personally confirmed from LG and YT when I had issues with machine running away.
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i dont trust LG had two three products from them,one was fridge who's body heating element to stop coolant freezing died in 3 years,another was microvave which had timer issues,my brother owns a dishwasher that died in a year too absolute garbage products.
 
fastapifastdisks said:
dont buy front load,often over time after 2-3 years the front seal loosens and leaks water. i had two siemens machines an a lg one all had the same problem. top load is easier to fix plus does not require one to balance the load.
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By front seal do you mean the gasket the door closes into ?

What was the fix the repair person did ? did he just replace the front gasket or something else.

Also how much did it cost to fix ?

Any difference in cost between Siemens & LG for this fix ? since both had the same problem.
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
The older lg models had issues with the gasket, but that was more to do with machine vibration and running away rather than leakage. The newer models have been replaced with a thicker and a firm gasket to ensure machine vibration reduce.
Personally confirmed from LG and YT when I had issues with machine running away.
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Machine running away and vibrating is to do with balancing. Nothing to do with the door gasket.

The older gaskets used to develop mould problems because people did not leave the door open after a wash for it to dry out.

The newer ones are more resistant to mould.

A leaking gasket means it got damaged somehow. Either through physical damage or age. eg. physical damage to the gasket can happen with long finger nails or a detached bra wire. Keys in the pocket. Something that should not be in there but got in by accident.

Mine is good after 6 years. No leaks.
 
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blr_p said:
Machine running away and vibrating is to do with balancing. Nothing to do with the door gasket.
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The front door would be loosely shunted, which increased vibrations along the sides as the door would move forward backward when the drum was spinning. Off course this was not an issue in my case as mine was new and the machine was not levelled.
When I saw a YT video showing how someone's front door was moving despite levelled, on questioning his resolution, be told that the LG technician replaced gasket as it was loose. After that, no issues. I also cross checked with my technician (issue escalated)/since I had running away issues and he also told the same about older gaskets.
TLDR, anything loose can play a primary or a secondary role in any issue faced by FL machine.
 
blr_p said:
By front seal do you mean the gasket the door closes into ?

What was the fix the repair person did ? did he just replace the front gasket or something else.

Also how much did it cost to fix ?

Any difference in cost between Siemens & LG for this fix ? since both had the same problem.

Machine running away and vibrating is to do with balancing. Nothing to do with the door gasket.

The older gaskets used to develop mould problems because people did not leave the door open after a wash for it to dry out.

The newer ones are more resistant to mould.

A leaking gasket means it got damaged somehow. Either through physical damage or age. eg. physical damage to the gasket can happen with long finger nails or a detached bra wire. Keys in the pocket. Something that should not be in there but got in by accident.

Mine is good after 6 years. No leaks.
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just replaced gasket, siemens parts are bit more expensive because imported atleast at that time they were imported.
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
When I saw a YT video showing how someone's front door was moving despite levelled, on questioning his resolution, be told that the LG technician replaced gasket as it was loose. After that, no issues. I also cross checked with my technician (issue escalated)/since I had running away issues and he also told the same about older gaskets.
TLDR, anything loose can play a primary or a secondary role in any issue faced by FL machine.
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Can you post that video ?

I found another one but he does not understand the cause and just replaced the machine. It's only in the comments that i can begin to understand what you are saying

Interesting is the way his machine quietly slips across his floor. Note there is no loud noise and obvious vibration like with the amazon review i posted earlier. This is not a balancing issue. It's internal vibration. And that vibration is sufficient enough to make it move around.

Gavisiddheshwar Kataraki​

1 year ago (edited)
If the LG Front load washing machine is vibrating and moving, need to check transport bolts, leg or floor leveling, baring of the drum (rarely) and shock observers and also door gasket. The door gasket problem was with my LG 8kg Front load washing machine. My machine was moving similar to this video. Today, the service person came and replaced the hard gasket with a soft gasket, free of cost in the warranty. Now my washing machine is working very smoothly with 1400 RPM (high) speed and more load (Jeans pants). According to mechanic the machines manufactured in 2018 and 2019 have this problem. I guess they wanted to build high quality machine with hard gasket but end up with this issue. Now I'm happy with the product. You too try this solution
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So the issue seems to be that the gasket provided is too hard. How was this not caught in the factory.

Gavisiddheshwar Kataraki​

1 year ago (edited)
@Anurag Shrivastava Mine is 2018 8kg Front load model. It does not matter which model. Raise a ticket to replace hard gasket with soft gasket at front door of the machine with LG customer care. It will be free of cost under 2 year warranty. Motor is 10 year warranty all over India. Let me know by comment once you fix it. Surly it will solve the issue. Have a good luck.
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It CAN happen with recent machines !! Assuming the transport bolts have been removed. Otherwise this will happen by default.

What a bad impression this will leave for a first time buyer if the correct repair is not made.

Gavisiddheshwar Kataraki​

11 months ago (edited)
@Logeshkumar Jaganathan Gasket holds the external drum also gives cushioning action while inner drum rotats. It should be moderately soft/hard. Strong enough to hold the drum and soft enough to allowing the inner drum to rotate freely (cushioning action). Just understand, why they have given rubber Gasket and why not metal nut & bolts to fix external drum. I hope you got the answer. Have a good luck.
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This is a manufacturer issue. They used the wrong part or older part. Gaskets harden with age.

Yeah anything loose will cause the problem. The problem here is insufficient dampening.

Wish it wasn't the customer that had to figure it out.
 
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fastapifastdisks said:
dont buy front load,often over time after 2-3 years the front seal loosens and leaks water. i had two siemens machines an a lg one all had the same problem. top load is easier to fix plus does not require one to balance the load.
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I have had a whirlpool front load now in its 13 years old never has the door gasket loosened. I also have a LG front load which is nearly 3 years old and it gasket is good too and it was manufactured in 2019. Yes gasket is harder but no issues.

If your door gasket is loose one all your machines, then you haven't done any levelling of your machine or run it more load then the machine is rated for or you are not loading the cloths correctly causing imbalance.
 
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@DrkLord
I think you were looking for something like this isn't it?

Washing machine and Tumble dryer 2 in 1 >> https://www.lg.com/in/washer-dryer-combo

I have been using the 9KG model for over 3 years now and we use dryer for most of the cycles due to space constraints for drying clothes.

There are many dry modes available and we use the low temp mode and it takes 2.5 hrs to dry the clothes completely, for us to fold and keep them back in wardrobe.
 
sriharsha_m said:
I have been using the 9KG model for over 3 years now and we use dryer for most of the cycles due to space constraints for drying clothes.

There are many dry modes available and we use the low temp mode and it takes 2.5 hrs to dry the clothes completely, for us to fold and keep them back in wardrobe.
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What is the model# of your machine ?
 
@blr_p I had seen this video when I was doing my hunting on how to stop machine running away. The comment on this video about gasket made me think it could be a probable issue why my machine was dancing, before I finally took adder's help and realised my machine was not levelled.
The video I saw was linked in comments on another LG machine running away where he showed how his machine operated smoothly post changing gasket. Will try to find, but will be difficult as its a link to an another link, and reading through all the comments.
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
@blr_p I had seen this video when I was doing my hunting on how to stop machine running away. The comment on this video about gasket made me think it could be a probable issue why my machine was dancing, before I finally took adder's help and realised my machine was not levelled.
The video I saw was linked in comments on another LG machine running away where he showed how his machine operated smoothly post changing gasket. Will try to find, but will be difficult as its a link to an another link, and reading through all the comments.
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The guy in that video does not explain what the problem is. My gut feel is that it isn't levelled properly.

Then i thought there might be a slope in that guys floor. Machine moves in the same direction twice.

Then he gets a replacement, pays more. Now we never get to see the new machine in action in his second video but he says it works fine.

So they must have levelled it the second time though he insists its a manufacturer defect.

Hard to say for sure.
 
adder said:
I have had a whirlpool front load now in its 13 years old never has the door gasket loosened. I also have a LG front load which is nearly 3 years old and it gasket is good too and it was manufactured in 2019. Yes gasket is harder but no issues.

If your door gasket is loose one all your machines, then you haven't done any levelling of your machine or run it more load then the machine is rated for or you are not loading the cloths correctly causing imbalance.
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Siemens one lasted years before the gasket issue occured it was a german import unit purchased when fully automatic front load machines were not widespread in india around 2006 i guess, LG on other other hand went to shit like every other lg product fridge(internal body heater died),microwave(timer malfunctioned twice).

also all this leveling etc,with top load this is never a issue dump your clothes in set a program and go on with your life.front load machines only look good just like itx and sff pc's(expensive to build,maintain and impractical(unless travelling a lot), only look good thats it)
 
sriharsha_m said:
@DrkLord
I think you were looking for something like this isn't it?

Washing machine and Tumble dryer 2 in 1 >> https://www.lg.com/in/washer-dryer-combo

I have been using the 9KG model for over 3 years now and we use dryer for most of the cycles due to space constraints for drying clothes.

There are many dry modes available and we use the low temp mode and it takes 2.5 hrs to dry the clothes completely, for us to fold and keep them back in wardrobe.
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Thanks for the suggestion :) Though the 9kg models are a bit out of budget for me now.
 
Also some minimum maintenance is required like tub cleaning maybe once a month or whenever required depending upon the useage of the machine. I've seen in some of my relatives place where the dispenser is never cleaned for months or even some times years together. It will smell like an open drain. The drain filter cover also needs to be cleaned atleast once in 6 weeks.
 
technofast said:
where the dispenser is never cleaned for months
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After every wash, just rinse the dispenser under water and allow both the dispenser and the area under wm to air dry. I do this after every wash for a year, no issues.
Excess detergent and humidity provides warmth for bacteria, fungi to breed. Keep your machine as dry as possible, you won't have any issues. Same with gasket.
 
When it comes to smell. The best thing is to avoid liquid detergents and fabric softener. Living in the tropics its easy for me to say that.

The reason for the smell is these liquids are made from fats which then leaves a smelly residue. Over time it will build up.

Powders leave a residue as well, you can tell if the water has suds when you do a tub clean and you never added any soap. Why is the water soapy then ? because of residue.

But this residue won't smell. If there are smells then its likely fabric that has torn off the clothes and somehow attached itself to the heating element. It will just sit there and rot on its own. Or lint that accumulates between the gasket and the drum. Gives off a slight mildew or old clothes smell. No way to remove this unless the gasket is taken off.

Don't put any dirty mops in the machine, first rinse them by hand if you can to get rid of the excess dirt as otherwise that dirt will build up in the machine over time.


technofast said:
The Bosch technician told not to use powder detergent and instead use only liquid detergent as powder detergent contains too much of salt and corrosion will happen in bearings. I've been using both but more of powder detergent.
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I say stick to powder. Stick to the powder made for front loaders. And not other cheaper powders. Regular use of liquid causes other issues especially when used at low temperatures of 40. If your washes are 60 degrees most of the time then fine.

Corrosion here is more to do with hard water. A TDS of 700-1000 will kill any machine sooner than softer water. You need a water softener than will bring the TDS down in that case. You will also save on detergent in that case as less is needed with soft water. The official specs say to use a full scoop or 50gm with a full load. That assumes a water hardness TDS of at least 200 if not more. Recommendation is an average for the whole country and detergent manufacturers don't want bad publicity so they recommend more than necessary. With softer water you can get away with half as much.
 
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Powders won't dissolve completely when using cold/normal water. Also, for some reason I felt a slight itchiness when washing with powder. Hence recently shifted to Ariel liquid. Though LG recommends sticking with powder, experience is proving something else.

blr_p said:
Liquid causes other issues.
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Can you elaborate?
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Powders won't dissolve completely when using cold/normal water.
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So you run a maintenance wash monthly with nothing to dissolve it. There is other points here.

How much powder are you using ?
What brand of detergent powder are you using ?
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Also, for some reason I felt a slight itchiness when washing with powder. Hence recently shifted to Ariel liquid. Though LG recommends sticking with powder, experience is proving something else.
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So this isn't easy to figure out. But it has more to do with how you use the washer and the detergent than the detergent. If that makes any sense.

eg. Overdosing or over loading. Either way will leave unused detergent residue in your clothes. That will cause itch.

How you used the machine or detergent and not the detergent per se.

A third factor is improper detergent for a FL can also be the culprit. A detergent for a TL generates excess suds with less water of FL means it won't rinse out as well leaving residue in the clothes. Because it was formulated to be used with more water.


People do seem to correlate the two though. There isn't any proof for it.

One major detergent manufacturer told us flatly, "You have more chance of winning the lottery three weeks running than getting a skin rash from powder or tabs, the amazing amount of testing and hoops we have to jump through just to get a formula to market ensure that".
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In short, the right detergent and used properly won't cause itch.
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Can you elaborate?
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It causes smells particularly if you wash regularly at low temperatures. Low means less than 60 degrees.

Then you need specialised cleaning products like Whirlpool's Affresh to remove this smelly residue from the drum and you need to be regular with it.

No need for Affresh if you stick with powders.

Affresh is no longer available on amazon so only Bosch's cleaner is left. You need to use that whole 200gms for one use. See the price :bored:

I do use liquid detergent but only for washing a load of microfiber cloths. Powder is bad for micro fiber. That is my only use for liquid detergent.
 
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