Front loading or top loading washing machine?

[Snappy]

How long does your machine take to do a full load on the cottons cycle?

Varies on cloth type. Full load towel type (thick ones) take max. 1 hr 48 mins. whereas thinner handkerchief, shirts take 1 hr 25 mins. all at default temperature and spin speed.

 

[MrGordon]

@Snappy Do you also have the LG FHP1209Z5M 9 KG WM?

 

[Snappy]

@Snappy Do you also have the LG FHP1209Z5M 9 KG WM?

Yes.

 

[blr_p]

Varies on cloth type. Full load towel type (thick ones) take max. 1 hr 48 mins. whereas thinner handkerchief, shirts take 1 hr 25 mins. all at default temperature and spin speed.

That's an hour less than on my lg from 2016

 

[penpal6]

Bought FHM1408BDW for 20,567 after exchanging old IFB 6KG top load for 3500/-
As recommended by @blr_p

https://www.flipkart.com/lg-8-kg-steam-fully-automatic-front-load-in-built-heater-white/p/itmb3a8fb6e624e5

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Bought 3 years extended warranty for 6K

 

[MrGordon]

The energy monitoring doesn't seem to be working, I ran two cycles so far, but it's not showing anything.

Let us know how it goes but from the little I've seen from reviews it's not as granular for washing machines as it is monitoring energy for their split AC's.

Only found cycle completion notification to be useful enough in the name of Wifi smart features. Besides, total energy consumption and tub clean coach are good to have. You can't view energy consumption per cycle. At least I haven't found yet.

Okay, so when I checked the LG Thin IQ app yesterday, I was surprised to see energy usage at a cycle level. We can also see a consumption graph with the daily, weekly, monthly energy consumption. Perhaps there was some update to the Thin IQ app or it just needed some time for the data to start populating.




With a new born in the house, on some days the machine was run more than once too. The cotton cycle also had pre-wash enabled, but the app doesn't seem to show that.

 

[blr_p]

Okay, so when I checked the LG Thin IQ app yesterday, I was surprised to see energy usage at a cycle level.

This is what you want.

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Quite high for baby care at 60 degrees. I don't have a steam function on my machine though.

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This is around what I would expect for a Cottons 60. Its about 0.25 units more than mine.

I've found my readings to be consistently lower than what LG specifies in their manual using the meeco power meter which came with a calibration certificate.

Check your manual and see if LG mentions power consumption for the Cottons cycle under certain conditions. And then see what you measure and how close it is.

Might have to do with ambient temperature when the power readings were taken.

So if water out the tap is approaching 30 degrees then it takes less energy to heat it to 60 than if it were say 15-20 degrees out the tap.

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With a new born in the house, on some days the machine was run more than once too. The cotton cycle also had pre-wash enabled, but the app doesn't seem to show that.

Useful to track monthly power consumption.

 

[MrGordon]

Thanks, yes, was looking for something like this. This is helpful. Although I was planning to attach a smart plug with energy monitoring options (Tapo P110), will correlate if the numbers match.

Yeah, not sure why the baby care cycle takes that much, but then it runs for 3-3.5 hours. The Cotton 60 is with Pre Wash selected (not displayed in the app), was the 0.25 kWh lesser consumption without Pre Wash? Yep, could be the ambient water temperature too.

 

[blr_p]

Prewash won't consume much power because its unheated and fairly short in duration.

Also duration of the wash doesn't add much to consumption. Eco washes are always longer. Substitute longer agitation for less heating.

 

[Snappy]

Okay, so when I checked the LG Thin IQ app yesterday, I was surprised to see energy usage at a cycle level. We can also see a consumption graph with the daily, weekly, monthly energy consumption. Perhaps there was some update to the Thin IQ app or it just needed some time for the data to start populating.

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With a new born in the house, on some days the machine was run more than once too. The cotton cycle also had pre-wash enabled, but the app doesn't seem to show that.

Yes we can now get energy usages of last 10 cycles after update.
Need to test out the Additional Download Cycles available in app. Tried Jeans Mode, seemed perfectly tuned.

 

[blr_p]

Yes we can now get energy usages of last 10 cycles after update.

Last 10? He has shown consumption of the last one.

Or do you mean it stores energy consumption individually of the last ten and then writes over the firstvfrom the 11th?

 

[Snappy]

Last 10? He has shown consumption of the last one.

Those are two of the Last 10. "Baby Steam and Cotton".
This wasn't available prior to recent update.

Or do you mean it stores energy consumption individually of the last ten and then writes over the firstvfrom the 11th?

Yes, the app stores individual cycle record of the Last 10 and monthly cumulative of probably upto a year as of now.
Daywise energy consumption can now easily be viewed in the graph which is very useful.

 

[MrGordon]

Not sure if the values shown are that accurate. A default cotton cycle shows the energy usage as 74 Wh. That’s too low.

 

[Snappy]

Not sure if the values shown are that accurate. A default cotton cycle shows the energy usage as 74 Wh. That’s too low.

Only if temperature is set to cold. The heater is actual leader in energy consumption.

 

[MrGordon]

Only if temperature is set to cold. The heater is actual leader in energy consumption.

This was a 60 degree cycle. Even with cold water, a full cycle should definitely use more than 74 Wh IMO.




I installed a Tapo smart plug last night and for today’s cycle, the energy consumption shown in ThinIQ is more or less aligned with what the Tapo smart plug showed.

 

[blr_p]

This was a 60 degree cycle. Even with cold water, a full cycle should definitely use more than 74 Wh IMO.

At most around a 100W. Incidentally they use non heated cycles to do those BEE labels.

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I installed a Tapo smart plug last night and for today’s cycle, the energy consumption shown in ThinIQ is more or less aligned with what the Tapo smart plug showed.

Where does this Tapo thing show energy consumed? All i see is 1W consumed (!)

The LG above says 0.8 units for the last cycle.

 

[MrGordon]

At most around a 100W. Incidentally they use non heated cycles to do those BEE labels.

You mean 100 “Wh” total energy consumption for a cold cycle? Or peak power draw of 100 W?

Where does this Tapo thing show energy consumed? All i see is 1W consumed (!)

The second image shows the energy consumption, 0.807 kWh. This is from the Tapo app.

 

[blr_p]

You mean 100 “Wh” total energy consumption for a cold cycle?

Yes. Total energy consumed for a cold wash.

100Wh or 0.1kWh or 0.1 units

The second image shows the energy consumption, 0.807 kWh. This is from the Tapo app.

Ah. So the LG says 814 Wh and the Tapo says 807 Wh.

Pretty close.

 

[Snappy]

This was a 60 degree cycle. Even with cold water, a full cycle should definitely use more than 74 Wh IMO.

I have seen as low 40 Wh in Quick 30(default) and 41 Wh in Cotton+(Temp: Cold). Cotton has AI DD which optimises wash cycle so no doubt to why it can be less power hungry.

 

[Dileep Nagesh]

Top load - cheap, easy to maintain, less powder usage etc..
Front load - expensive, requires more powder and gasket keeps coming off.. waste of money