I have no idea what pre wash is, we just select the cotton mode and run the machine.
Front loading or top loading washing machine?
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My 2 year old LG top loader has started squeaking when the drum rotates. The sound is like a toy and progressively gets louder when the wash cycle starts. Then after 4-5 minutes it just disappears. I tried to make out the source of noise and it seems to come from back bottom of the drum. Is it scaling or is it something else? I didn't get time to descale the machine from a year.
That's the first thing i checked. Yes it is level. I checked it with spirit level 2-3 times. Even checked the drum. Everything is level. Outer Drum does not touch the sides anywhere. There is almost 2 inches space between drum and body on all sides. IN a YT video, the noise was coming from the drum scratching the foam pad on the body but in my washing machine, the foam pads are above the drum level for some reason. So they will never touch the drum. And the foam pads are just 2 inch in width. Looks like normal foam pads available on Amazon. Foam pads should have been at least 4-6 inches in width looking at the Yt videos. Cost cutting in india.
My Bosch machine seems to have finally given up after almost 9 years. I had changed the dampers 3-4 years ago but more recently the machine was making a terrible noise beyond what happens due to poor hock absorption or levelling.
The Bosch technician said he could change the dampers again but the issue is with the drum itself and replacing it will cost almost as much as a new machine and recommended I change the current one under exchange while it still works somewhat.
So, what are the current recommendations for 8-9 kg load with an above average budget?
The Bosch technician said he could change the dampers again but the issue is with the drum itself and replacing it will cost almost as much as a new machine and recommended I change the current one under exchange while it still works somewhat.
So, what are the current recommendations for 8-9 kg load with an above average budget?
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Surprised it's so much. Would have expected half the price you paid when it was new.
Which is still high but not as high as he said. Also if they don't have the drum assembly they will have to order it and that will take more time.
The terrible noise is the bearings that are shot and need replacement. Unfortunately the tub is sealed like all Euro brands making repair which is a fairly straight forward repair on other brands but not feasible with Bosch.
You can go with the model @altair21 has selected. That is the minimum base model you can get.
If you want a little better then look at the model that @Alucard1729 or @MrGordon has selected.
Difference between the two models is here
It is always better to see both models in a store so you get an idea of the size. The Z5M has 10cm less depth than the base model and compensates for it with a larger diameter drum. So volume of the drum for both is similar.
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Doesn't seem like I will get any decent offer now. After checking few reviews, I will mostly be going with the Samsung WW90T504DAN instead as price-wise, (not on Amazon, below is reference only), I can get it for about 31k. Most sellers are offering only about 1k in exchange now, so going ahead with one that might provide 2k, so effective cost is little less than 30k, including a total of 4-year general warranty and 20 years on the motor.
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I made the final purchase on the Samsung website and surprisingly the retail site was cheaper than the corporate one. There is an offer for 2-year extended warranty for 499 till Jan 31 and purchasing that along with the machine also results in the "Buy 2, Save 5%" offer being applied, which actually reduces the overall price.
There is a 17.5% instant discount on ICICI, HDFC, SBI cards and since I used the SBI cashback card, there is an additional 5% cashback as well.
Sold off my old machine to Attero Recycling who picked it up from home without checking anything and credited 2k before leaving, all done in about 5 minutes, so would recommend them as well.
The machine was delivered the next day after placing the order and overall damage was about 26.5k, which I suppose is fine considering it was an unplanned purchase. Was not getting comparable offers from other brands online or offline that would push the price below 30k.
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What is the model# of the Samsung you got
Makes you wonder why isn't it.
I'd pay the premium for the LG. Upto 10k more even.
This is not about getting the cheapest available which some people seem to think. L1 syndrome it's called.
You get what you pay for
As I said, going by all the Indian reviews, the Samsung one was rated better than the LG one and it is the model I shared previously - WW90T504DAN1TL.
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These 'reviews' don't give the full picture
Yes, the cheaper models are always more popular. So get better ratings.
Sammy adds more features. LG less. Also less attractive. But its got the better wash action with direct drive.
You won't notice much difference going from one belt driven model to another.
Check whether the door latch has loosened a bit. I get similar noise in my 3 year old front loading machine. But when door is pressed a bit while drum is rotating, the noise stops.
Price-wise, both target the 40k mark before discounts, so none is cheaper than the other. Also, not talking about ratings but reviews where machines were tested by the same team. Nearly all of them put the LG and Samsung one neck-to-neck in terms of cleaning. LG gets kudos for its DD, Samsung for its Eco Bubble, diamond drum and AI implementation.
Personally, in such cases, the better price matters more.
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But the discounts are more readily available for the Sammy as you said.
Got some links to these reviews?
Had checked out a few, but this link is readily accessible, although it covers the 7kg variants.
Regarding the discounts, that is Samsung being Samsung. They generally have the power to undercut the retailers on their own website, which most won't do. But then I suppose you can get one or the other cheaper during the sales period on Amazon or Flipkart.
And since you mentioned it in earlier posts, this has the pre-wash option built in, not that I will use it personally.
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And how is he or his team coming to that conclusion?
There are no details of his cleaning tests. But I did manage to find how he tests cleaning with another machine and didn't find it satisfactory.
My remarks about that test are here
These tests are difficult to do objectively which is why I rely on the tech used.
Quieter operation and finer grained control compared to belt driven. That's how LG can claim a patent for its 6 motion washing program.
The first two are neither here nor there. But he makes a big deal about the AI features in the Samsung. Again he just asserts AI really works without showing anything to support. There is a short visual of him talking to the Samsung head of operations in India but we don't hear anything and I can't find a link to that interview.
So he is comparing an AI version of Samsung with an LG base model and then says the LG equivalent with AI is very expensive. It is for a reason. Upto to you whether to pay for it or not. People have paid only 5k more.
You either buy on price or ability to do the job. I prefer the latter as people should not compromise requirements for budget which is so common here.
LG's are better engineered and will on average last longer. That's why equivalent models will cost more.
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My brother's family has got a Samsung AI abroad. They thought AI would save them time and effort. In reality, it takes them more time to do things via mobile app. If they are not at home then they have to keep an eye on the running status, as the machine gives them very less time to make another selection before it shuts down after completing the wash. They often need to run another spin cycle as the 1400 one doesn't do a satisfactory job. I think the app should be able to line up two spin cycles back to back. And then you can't power on the machine remotely. I hope the current breed of AI machines don't have these shortcomings. If my machine has Wi-Fi then I should be able to power it on remotely.
I bought the base model of 8kg LG on your recommendation few years back. AI option on appliances back then was gimmicky. My base model LG is quite quick to resume operation if it's interrupted for some reason. AI machines would take their own sweet time to recheck everything. I read such comments in the reviews and I didn't look into AI models further for this reason alone. I think AI models have become more refined lately.
Because of DirectDrive, LG is very quiet. A couple of times my family members told me that I forgot to start the machine after putting in the clothes. For certain cycles, you can't hear much even if you are standing right in front of it!
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I'm quite surprised to read this. I've never thought of running spin cycles back to back. That too 1400 spins.
It makes me wonder whether the duration of the spin cycle chosen by Samsung isn't long enough. Bizarre if that was the case.
I think what's happening is the machine isn't getting to 1400 due to imbalance so it spins at a slower speed to protect the machine. The second spin then helps to remove any residual water that would not be there had the first spin actually reached 1400.
The key here is to ensure your load is balanced after loading the clothes by giving it a manual spin to see if it appears ok. Re-adjusting if necessary. This solution is 50-50. It's not fail proof but might reduce the need for a second spin.
It's a security risk so I'm doubtful if this will ever be possible without some security protocol in place.
I wasn't aware of any delays with resuming operation after a power cut whether AI or not. But then I have the base model.
Running is quite silent even now at close to nine years of trouble free service. I can't hear the machine from another room when the wash cycle is in and for this reason the end of program tune is helpful for getting one's attention.