Budget 21-30k Gaming rig for 27-inch 2560x1440 monitor

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GODMODE09

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Hi,

Questions


Q: What is your budget?
30K

Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
Monitor = Shimian 27-inch 2560x1440 (yet to order)


Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
none

Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
CPU - Intel i-5 3450
Motherboard - No idea

GPU - HD 6670

RAM - Gkill 2x4GB@1600Mhz

SSD- 60GB

HDD - 500GB @7200rpm


Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
Yes, will upgrade the following within 6 months

Graphic card = HD 7870 2GB (in 2 months)


Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
Chennai

Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market
No

Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
Gaming
Browsing
Desktop Processing
Download rig, 24x7 operation
Watching HD movies


Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
nope

Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?

Racing - Grid at medium to high settings

Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
Gaming - 1920x1080
Desktop - 2560x1440

Q: Are you looking to overclock?
No

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
Windows 8 64 bit


Now , I'm building this for my bro.. budget is really tight . <30K.
Processor+RAM+HDD = check . There will be no overclocking/cross firing. He will be replacing graphic cards as the games demands (only 1 card set-up).
Right now a basic card like mentioned to run the 2560x1440 for desktop purposes. He'll play games after HD7850 is added.

mother board = Need to have usb 3.0 and support any graphic card that's it

PSU = Only 1 card, so <500W enough?? even if HD7970 is added in the future?

Cabinet = Coolermaster elite 431 ? Costs 2.5K and has usb 3.0
 
@GODMODE09 this is what I suggest --
Intel Core i5 3450 ~12000/-
GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H ~4500/-
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3200/-
HP / SAMSUNG / LG optical drive ~1000/-
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB ~3500/-
Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/- (if you want to add a HD7970 later, this is the minimum you need)
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/- (again once you start putting in cards like the HD7970 you better have the space and airflow to keep it running well)

Get a 120GB SSD OR do not get one at all, no point getting a 60GB SSD for your RIG and usage.
For graphics card, I suggest that you go for an AMD HD7950 3GB and finish it rather than buy a card not be satisfied with its performance and then changing it.
No need for an interim graphics card, the HD4000 iGP should hold fine.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
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You forgot the HDD,OP should get Segate 500GB 7200RPM-3.5k OR 1TB-4.5k whichever fits his budget.It'd be better if OP goes for HD7970 if he's ready to spend 35k considering he wants to play at Ultra graphic settings.
ALPHA17 said:
this is what I suggest --
Intel Core i5 3450 ~12000/-
GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H ~4500/-
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3200/-
Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/- (if you want to add a HD7970 later, this is the minimum you need)
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/- (again once you start putting in cards like the HD7970 you better have the space and airflow to keep it running well)

Get a 120GB SSD OR do not get one at all, no point getting a 60GB SSD for your RIG and usage.
For graphics card, I suggest that you go for an AMD HD7950 3GB and finish it rather than buy a card not be satisfied with its performance and then changing it.
No need for an interim graphics card, the HD4000 iGP should hold fine.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
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ALPHA17 said:
@GODMODE09 this is what I suggest --
Intel Core i5 3450 ~12000/-
GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H ~4500/-
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3200/-
Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/- (if you want to add a HD7970 later, this is the minimum you need)
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/- (again once you start putting in cards like the HD7970 you better have the space and airflow to keep it running well)

Get a 120GB SSD OR do not get one at all, no point getting a 60GB SSD for your RIG and usage.
For graphics card, I suggest that you go for an AMD HD7950 3GB and finish it rather than buy a card not be satisfied with its performance and then changing it.
No need for an interim graphics card, the HD4000 iGP should hold fine.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
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About the graphic card, I will replace the basic card with a HD7xxx card when the prices comes down below 15K. Never will have a 2 card xfire setup. Do I still need 650W PSU ?
HD 7950 is over 30K (Not in my budget even in the future). Maybe after a year when it comes to 15K.
About the case, do I really need it ? IS there a cheaper alternative ?
I have decided to buy 120GB SSD for 8K so have to buy all other components within 22K.

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Jakob said:
You forgot the HDD,OP should get Segate 500GB 7200RPM-3.5k OR 1TB-4.5k whichever fits his budget.It'd be better if OP goes for HD7970 if he's ready to spend 35k considering he wants to play at Ultra graphic settings.
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Nope,... 27-inch is for work and gaming on 1920x1080. I never have mentioned I want to play @ ultra settings. :)
Infact gaming is not even my priority right now.
Just need a quad core rig with 8GB ram and 120GB SSD and other parts within 30K.

I will add a graphic card like HD 7850 or HD7870 in 2 months and then start gaming on 1920x1080 only.

I have added a basic card like HD6670 because I think it is needed to run the 2560x1440 display for work. IF that is not needed, I'll remove that too.
The ebay description says I need a good graphic card and inbuilt card are not enought.. that's why.
 
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GODMODE09 said:
About the case, do I really need it ? IS there a cheaper alternative ?
I have decided to buy 120GB SSD for 8K so have to buy all other components within 22K.
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GODMODE09 if you are going to buy a HD7970 3GB after a year there is no point, might as well get an Oland GPU at that time with the highest V-RAM that falls in your budget.

No point going for a HD6670 better save up as much as you can try for the HD7950 2GB in 2 -->3 months. Price for a brand new HD6670 ~5500/- add that to the price of a HD7870 2GB ~19000/- and you get ~24000/- which is just ~1000/- -->2000/- quid short of getting a MSi HD7950 3GB.

About the SSD, try to get that later as well, get a basic system rolling for now.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
ALPHA17 said:
GODMODE09 if you are going to buy a HD7970 3GB after a year there is no point, might as well get an Oland GPU at that time with the highest V-RAM that falls in your budget.

No point going for a HD6670 better save up as much as you can try for the HD7950 2GB in 2 -->3 months. Price for a brand new HD6670 ~5500/- add that to the price of a HD7870 2GB ~19000/- and you get ~24000/- which is just ~1000/- -->2000/- quid short of getting a MSi HD7950 3GB.

About the SSD, try to get that later as well, get a basic system rolling for now.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
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SSD is the 1st main thing I need for my work. That's why I'm ditching HDD to accomodate SSD in the 30K budget.
The thing about graphic cards is, don't I need one to run 2560x1440? (atleast like a HD 6670)? I heard HD7xxx series prices will fall down even further, that's why I'll buy HD7850 after 2 months.
I don't really see the need for a HD7950 for single monitor setup. The reason why I said I'll buy it after a year is because the games that releases than might demand something close to it.
Is'nt just a HD 7870 good enough to play even @2560x1440 using just 1 monitor?

I personally think 20K+ for a graphic card is way too much for playing in 1 monitor. What do u think?
 
GODMODE09 said:
SSD is the 1st main thing I need for my work. That's why I'm ditching HDD to accomodate SSD in the 30K budget.
The thing about graphic cards is, don't I need one to run 2560x1440? (atleast like a HD 6670)? I heard HD7xxx series prices will fall down even further, that's why I'll buy HD7850 after 2 months.
I don't really see the need for a HD7950 for single monitor setup. The reason why I said I'll buy it after a year is because the games that releases than might demand something close to it.
Is'nt just a HD 7870 good enough to play even @2560x1440 using just 1 monitor?

I personally think 20K+ for a graphic card is way too much for playing in 1 monitor. What do u think?
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You bought a 27" (2560 x1440) panel, not me, and yes the resolution is at the outer performance envelope of the AMD HD7870. What games are you going to play?

No the Intel HD2500 iGP should cope fine for day-to-day tasks. Until you are not going to game till then the onboard should work fine.

The HD7950 3GB should last you at-least 2 years (no guarantees) from when you buy it. The HD7870 depends on the game.

Edit -- Just for GRID you bought such a huge monitor, what was wrong with a 1080p device?
 
ALPHA17 said:
You bought a 27" (2560 x1440) panel, not me, and yes the resolution is at the outer performance envelope of the AMD HD7870. What games are you going to play?

No the Intel HD2500 iGP should cope fine for day-to-day tasks. Until you are not going to game till then the onboard should work fine.

The HD7950 3GB should last you at-least 2 years (no guarantees) from when you buy it. The HD7870 depends on the game.

Edit -- Just for GRID you bought such a huge monitor, what was wrong with a 1080p device?
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Sorry.. I think there is a confusion here :)
I forgot to delete "grid" in the template when I copy/pasted it. The 27-inch monitor is for work and I have'nt ordered it yet.
I'm fine with playing games with 22-inch 1920x1080 monitor which I currently have.
I know I have to buy atleast HD7850 if I want to play games @2560x1440 decent /recommended settings and I thought I'll go for HD7870 when it's price comes down to ~15K
I will mostly playing the latest NFS, Dirt series,etc. No fps games, only racing games.
 
GODMODE09 said:
Sorry.. I think there is a confusion here :)
I forgot to delete "grid" in the template when I copy/pasted it. The 27-inch monitor is for work and I have'nt ordered it yet.
I'm fine with playing games with 22-inch 1920x1080 monitor which I currently have.
I know I have to buy atleast HD7850 if I want to play games @2560x1440 decent /recommended settings and I thought I'll go for HD7870 when it's price comes down to ~15K
I will mostly playing the latest NFS, Dirt series,etc. No fps games, only racing games.
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Okay this solves a lot of issues.

So what is the work that requires such a huge screen size and does it need the GPU to run full out as well?

I doubt the HD7870 will come down to ~15000/-, not unless Oland cards are out and then it will not make sense to go for a HD78** series GPU, might as well get an Oland card.

In that case if work can continue on a 1080p screen the HD7850 will be more than enough for the coming years.

Apart from DiRT most racing titles are not graphical heavy-weights so a HD7850 / 7870 should be more than enough for you. Cheerio!
 
No work does'nt require much from GPU. Its basically about resolution. Just need to run max resolution.
Just googled and came to know about Oland cards.
Ok, can u give me a suitable config for 22K ? 120GB is 8K and want this to end within 30K. I'm confident u can do it :D

i-5 processor , 2x4GB@1600 RAM and ??
I should be able to add a graphic card in a couple of months.

PS : Can extend the budget by 5K max. if 30K is way too less.
 
You'd have to raise your budget by a good margin OR you'd have to cut the processor down to i3 3220-7.5k,Considering your future adding of components this is the least you'd have to get-
Intel Core i5 3450 ~12000/-
GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H ~4500/-
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3200/-
Segate 500GB HDD-3.5k
Seasonic S12ii 520W-4000/- OR Corsair TX650V2-5500/-
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/- OR Bit Fenix Alpha-2700/-
GODMODE09 said:
No work does'nt require much from GPU. Its basically about resolution. Just need to run max resolution.
Just googled and came to know about Oland cards.
Ok, can u give me a suitable config for 22K ? 120GB is 8K and want this to end within 30K. I'm confident u can do it :D

i-5 processor , 2x4GB@1600 RAM and ??
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Jakob said:
You'd have to raise your budget by a good margin OR you'd have to cut the processor down to i3 3220-7.5k,Considering your future adding of components this is the least you'd have to get-
Intel Core i5 3450 ~12000/-
GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H ~4500/-
G.Skill RIPJAWS 4GB x2 1600MHz ~3200/-
Segate 500GB HDD-3.5k
Seasonic S12ii 520W-4000/- OR Corsair TX650V2-5500/-
Corsair Carbide 400R ~5500/- OR Bit Fenix Alpha-2700/-
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As far as the processor is concerned, I need a quad core one. It's ok even if it is from AMD , but has to be better than dual core i-3 3220.
Is seasonic 520W enough even if I go for a mid-high end GPU ?
I have'nt heard of Bit Fernix alpha. Coolermaster 431elite no good? I prefer something within 3K tbh.
 
You'd have to go for Intel i5 3450-12.5k OR i5 2400-10.5k,Yes Seasonic S12ii 520W is good enough for HD7850 OR HD7870,The Bit Fenix Alpha is under 3k.It won't be any good if you don't get a good case,I would suggest you to get Corsair 400R if you can cause cooling and spacing is important and you'll get that with good case.CM 430 is ok if you can't get 400R.
GODMODE09 said:
As far as the processor is concerned, I need a quad core one. It's ok even if it is from AMD , but has to be better than dual core i-3 3220.
Is seasonic 520W enough even if I go for a mid-high end GPU ?
I have'nt heard of Bit Fernix alpha. Coolermaster 431elite no good? I prefer something within 3K tbh.
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Jakob said:
You'd have to go for Intel i5 3450-12.5k OR i5 2400-10.5k,Yes Seasonic S12ii 520W is good enough for HD7850 OR HD7870,The Bit Fenix Alpha is under 3k.It won't be any good if you don't get a good case,I would suggest you to get Corsair 400R if you can cause cooling and spacing is important and you'll get that with good case.CM 430 is ok if you can't get 400R.
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Just went through some AMD processors and found a quad core 1 . It's only 7K and is even 3.6Ghz

AMD FX 4100 Quad Core (3.6 GHz / 12MB / AM3+) - www.deltapage.com

Why no mention of this anywhere. Who does everyone prefer i-5 processor ? Is AMD not as good as intel ?
Is this AMD quad core processor better than the i-3 3220 which costs about the same ?
 
GODMODE09 said:
As far as the processor is concerned, I need a quad core one. It's ok even if it is from AMD , but has to be better than dual core i-3 3220.
Is seasonic 520W enough even if I go for a mid-high end GPU ?
I have'nt heard of Bit Fernix alpha. Coolermaster 431elite no good? I prefer something within 3K tbh.
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I suggest that you go for the Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/-. If you are in doubt.

Cooler Master 311 Plus ~2500/- OR Bit Fenix MErc Alpha ~2800/- but the issue is with such a cheap cabinet you are risking everything including your shiny new card, later.

Here are reviews for the latter --
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4913/bitfenix-merc-alpha-how-much-can-39-can
http://hardwarebbq.com/product-review/bitfenix-merc-alpha-mid-atx-tower-pc-chassis-review/

GODMODE09 said:
Just went through some AMD processors and found a quad core 1 . It's only 7K and is even 3.6Ghz

AMD FX 4100 Quad Core (3.6 GHz / 12MB / AM3+) - www.deltapage.com

Why no mention of this anywhere. Who does everyone prefer i-5 processor ? Is AMD not as good as intel ?
Is this AMD quad core processor better than the i-3 3220 which costs about the same ?
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Here are reviews for the AMD FX-4100
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/1/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100.html

The junior desktop Bulldozer CPU, FX-4100, looks more like a more up-to-date alternative to the junior Phenom II X4 processors, i.e. it is often even slower than Core i3.

It turns out that the only one who may benefit from the upcoming migration from Phenom II to the new FX family is AMD. Bulldozer microarchitecture allows the company to stop using old manufacturing process for their semiconductor dies and move on to the new cores with lower production cost. However, the end users won’t win in this situation. FX CPUs that are coming to replace the good old Phenom II processors are not faster or cheaper than their predecessors. Therefore, until processors on new Piledriver microarchitecture come out, the new FX are of no real interest to AMD fans and Phenom II owners.
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When it comes to performance we were shocked to see the AMD A8-3850 'Llano' processor and the Socket FM1 platform performing better than the AMD FX-4100 'Bulldozer' processor and the Socket AM3+ platform. We quickly found out that the FX-4100 was priced this low as it needed to be. The performance of the FX-4100 wasn't awful, but we didn't expect to see the AMD A6-3650 running at 2.6GHz to beat the AMD FX-4100 running at 3.6GHz in benchmarks like POV-Ray and Cinebench!

The AMD FX-4100 did do well when it came to overclocking and it might be the easiest processor to overclock that we have used in the past ten years. We were able to get a 1GHz overclock out of the processor by just raising the multiplier in the BIOS of the ASUS Crosshair V Formula motherboard. We didn't even have to touch any voltages to reach this overclock. That is mighty impressive and just goes to show how easy it is to overclock today. The massive 1GHz overclock helps boost the performance of this processor to more respectable levels and is the saving grace of this processor. If it wasn't this overclockable, we wouldn't suggest it at all.
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Caveat Emptor: Unless you have Displayport or a dual-link DVI on your motherboard (the Gigabyte B75 does not, neither do most Intel solutions except for some of the higher-end H77 and Z77 boards), be prepared to have blurry text as max possible output resolution of single-link DVI and HDMI is 1920x1080 (correction: 1920x1200). The monitor will stretch this to full resolution and the text and desktop will be blurry as the resolution is non-native. You have the option of leaving scaling off and watching your monitor with black bars all around, if that's what you want.

95% of AMD motherboards used to have dual-link DVI, but after Llano - not so much. My Asus 880G, the 780G before it as well as the 690G all had DL DVI, some had a Displayport connector as well. Life in non-native resolution is pointless.

Almost every discrete GPU will be able to handle the desktop resolution of the monitor through its DL DVI output.

After having used my 2560x monitor for a few days at non-native resolution because of a useless Jetway motherboard four years ago, I decided I would never pick a system that couldn't do 2560x off its integrated graphics.

Your call, but I would focus on getting the maximum out of your monitor. A good monitor will last many years, whereas systems can be upgraded through time.
 
Hi guys, I have a config within my budget for at the moment. I will replace the cabinet, buy a suitable SMPS when I buy a graphic card like HD 7850 after 6-8 months.

CPU Intel i5 - 3550 / 3.3 GHz (Quad Core) = 12800
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H USB 3.0 = 4750
RAM Gskill ripjawz 2x4GB@1600 Mhz = 3150
HDD OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD = 7200
DVD SONY DVD WRITER = 1200
Cabinet Antec NK3480 With EA 380W PSU Bronze Certification = 4450
GPU Power Color AMD HD5670 1GB DDR3 = 4100
TOTAL = 38K Including installation and hardware fixing charges.

Laptop died suddenly :( There was some problem with mother board. Its was 6yrs old anyway. The repair guy is ready to buy it for 5K. Vostro 1500.

I know I have a shitty cabinet with inbuilt PSU , but it's just for <6 months and will replace it with Cossair 400r and a 650W good PSU. I will replace the mother board when I cross fire (maybe after a year).

I took this decision because I think it's best for my budget. I can upgrade as I earn.

The dealer also gave me a cheaper config to work with the monitor. Take a look. But I think the i-5 is better than i-3 for selling and upgrading the parts as time flies by :)

CPU Intel Core i3 - 2120 / 3.3 GHz 3M Cache, 3.3 GHz ( Dual Core)
Motherboard Intel - DH61WW 16x,S,L / Vga (supports upto 8GB RAM) USB 2.0 } = 10500 (for processor and motherboard)
RAM Gskill ripjawz 2x4GB@1600 Mhz = 3150
HDD OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD = 7200
DVD SONY DVD WRITER = 1200
Cabinet Antec NK3480 With EA 380W PSU Bronze Certification = 4450
GPU Power Color AMD HD5670 1GB DDR3 = 4100

What do u guys think ??
 
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