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Funky said:
Ya i know there are more riders in motogp but what i meant is that there should be more than 2 points difference at top.
Make it 20 - 15 - 11 - 8 - 6 - 4 - 2 - 1.
Or even 15 - 10 - 7 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1
but the Winner should get major share of points. Top 3 should also get chunk of the points but Winner deserves glory.
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Arrey, that only !!

It was like that, but one Michael Schumacher won the championship too easily. so, they changed the rules.
 
Wonder what these top drivers would do in a spyker / or benetton - its the package that counts,

Remember Schumis first year in Ferrari ? how many races did they win? Actually how many did they finish?
 
TheIndian said:
Wonder what these top drivers would do in a spyker / or benetton - its the package that counts,

Remember Schumis first year in Ferrari ? how many races did they win? Actually how many did they finish?
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hehehe.... what you dont get is that many times, the drivers get the best out of the team.

Ferrari won 3 races in Schumi's debut season(more than they had won between 1991-1995). He finished 3rd in the drivers championship.

I am not saying the driver is everything, but you need a synergy between both.

You put Ralf in a Ferrari and you wont see any improvement. You put Michael in a toyota and you'll see more improvement in one year than all the years of Ralf put together :rofl:
 
Funky said:
All I can say is the driver who does not WIN more races in a season than everyone else, DOES NOT DESERVE to win the championship. As simple as that.
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Whatever. Hamilton has had twice as many 2nd place finishes over Kimi. The point here is consistency which Kimi has lacked and Hamilton has not.
 
Sometimes....consistancy is not all..just look at south african cricketers! Sometimes its clicking at the right place and the right moment that counts.

OT:

Found an awesome video comparing a Fiat Vs Ferrari Vs Ferrari F1 (driven by MS himself!)

YouTube - Fiat vs Ferrari vs F1
 
No. I think consistency is important. There were complaints and worries over Kimi's inability to get used to the car and how that affected him early on, but you'll be hard pressed to find any flaws or worries over Hamilton's form all season.
 
cynozure007 said:
Fabulous Race.....a dream start and unbelievable driving by both Kimi and Massa......

Never in my wildest dreams did I expect such a result...........

So much so for "Hamilton- the rookie world champion".....ha ha ha......if it wasnt for his ego he would have been rejoicing now ....but i thank him so does all the Ferrari fans in the world for his "ego".....

We should never forget Massa's contribution.....if it wasnt for him we would never have seen this day........
Even if McLaren had won the appeal to the spy case and had lost the appeal to Hungary (which they would have never won realistically had they gotten away free from penalty from spy case). The points would be like this:

Ferrari: 204
Mcleran: 203

This would have made for a close Constructor battle also; but in the end Ferrari won both championships fair and square.

FERRARI ALL THE WAY>>>>>>TRUE WORLD CHAMPIONS>>>>>
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It would be 218 for Mc Laren and 204 for Ferrari.
 
Its been discussed already that 15 points have been deducted from thier Constructors at hungary...check some pages at the start..
 
Ck Nish said:
Whatever. Hamilton has had twice as many 2nd place finishes over Kimi. The point here is consistency which Kimi has lacked and Hamilton has not.
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Well look at it this way there is no real place or glory for the person who comes second in the world. Even this championship proved that. You gotta win more than 4 races. 2nd places are forgotten. Victories are not.

Consistency of coming in 2nd place might be good for real world tasks. But in sports its the champion that takes all glory. The winner is champion, 2nd place man is nothing more than 2nd place man ;)

No sports has given too much importance for being consistently 2nd. F1 is no exception. but with points fiasco sometimes more 2nd places than wins matters which should matter but not as much as winning. and thats why there should be some bonus points for the race winner.

If hamilton finished no2 more than any other driver in the F1 history and does not win races he would be forgotten soon enough. He was rookie who performed well and thats why he got soo much attention this year and more bcoz of the politics and idiotic revelry in the Mclaren team.

He just proved he is rookie this season when he made blunders when it mattered the most. And he is forgiven for that. I was expecting that whole season. He was good enough to avoid mistakes when there was no pressure. But when there was pressure he choked.
He has potential to become great F1 driver. But he needs to learn to finish the job when it matters.
 
F|0ccY said:
Hamilton should have won, it just wasn't hes day today...first he runs wide off the curve in lap 1 and then drops to 8th, THEN if that wasn't enough, he then had gear shifting problems and dropped another 10 places.But still..it was an amazing race on Hamilton's side coming from 18th to 7th.Good race by Kimi as well.:hap2:

Can't wait for next season, no traction control:ohyeah:
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Hamilton lost due to his own error. Mclaren never had any gearbox problems that race. It was a rookie mistake. He pressed the wrong button which actually starts the system because of which he had to go through gearbox initialization.

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Ck Nish said:
No. I think consistency is important. There were complaints and worries over Kimi's inability to get used to the car and how that affected him early on, but you'll be hard pressed to find any flaws or worries over Hamilton's form all season.
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Hamilton is Mclaren's Prodigy. He is with Mclaren team from Age 13 and was last year's test driver. So there is no point in talking about Hamilton got used to the car where as Kimi didn't. He has talent, no doubt about it. But if he has lost the season then u cant say much about it. can u? if he was ever so consistent in the races, he would have naturally been on the top of points table.
 
hey guys i heard mclaren is goin to appeal about some fuel temperature stuff on BMW and williams which might disqualify the two and will make hamilton move up in places which in turn will make kimi loose is title :'( :@
 
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I doubt if FIA will overturn the decision made by local stewards... Actually in this case the chances are very less as the outcome of thier decision mite change the champion...
 
Khimera said:
Hamilton is Mclaren's Prodigy. He is with Mclaren team from Age 13 and was last year's test driver. So there is no point in talking about Hamilton got used to the car where as Kimi didn't. He has talent, no doubt about it. But if he has lost the season then u cant say much about it. can u? if he was ever so consistent in the races, he would have naturally been on the top of points table.
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Did u mean protege? I agree with you on that. Kimi and Alonso had to unlearn those old lessons and then learn new ones where's Hamilton din't have to do anything like that. It was easier for him but then again he was a rookie and he did an exceptional job.

Who is better? Who is the most deserving? Well, its been answered. The person who scores the most, takes the championship. This year it was Kimi and I'm glad. I also think FIA needs to reward the winners more than just by 2 points. The winner should atleast get 5 more and a bonus point for fastest lap. :P
 
I dont think that BMW and Williams are going to be disqualified....First of all the stewards didnt get sufficient info on the fuel temp variationss.....

But what i cannot believe and understand is the depth to which McLaren can stoop to to get the WDC even when both Hamilton and Alonso said that such a victory is meaningless and shameful to F1........after evrything that they have done this year....steal Ferrari docs.....makin a fool out of Alonso...etc etc.....

Hamilton openly claimed to have pressed a particualr button on the steering which caused his car to go to some neutral mode....only to be denied my Ron D claiming that there was no such thing.....

Like funky said....there is no place for second place in F1....u are either first or u are not.....u cannot compare 6 wins to a measly 4......
 
So he deserved it because he won? Interesting logic. Although I'm sure you people would be singing a different tune had Alonso won.
 
Nope...thats not the logic. I'm not saying they shouldn't reward 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc.. but the reward for winning should be more than what's currently being given. The current point system discourages pure racing and drivers just go around in circles to get a clean points finish. Who'd want to risk a win for 10 points when you can get 8 easy points for being 2nd. Its not to say scoring a second place is easy but its relatively easier.

Points system should be such that drivers feel motivated to go for a win. Imagine a points system like 15-10-8-6-4-3-2-1 and drivers would do anything to score those extra 5 points. A win is a win, its priceless and any championship should take that into factor.
 
ApeX said:
Did u mean protege? I
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Yeah I meany protege, My bad

Ck Nish said:
So he deserved it because he won? Interesting logic. Although I'm sure you people would be singing a different tune had Alonso won.
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Alonso is talented. His driving skills are one of the best if not the best. What ppl (includin me) dont like is his whining ways and his behavior with his own teammate and the team. We would have certainly been singing a different song if he would have won coz no one likes a back stabbing teammate and a driver who doesn't like his own team and starts speaking ill about his team.
 
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