Windows Having a weird issue where, after random time, the GPU goes to -1%/100% and entire pc starts to slowdown and eventually hang

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Have been trying out AI stuff recently , wherein i was installing python , git etc (all from genuine source)

Weirdly for past few days , the pc starts to slow down after i do say select a browser on my second monitor ,or open up taskmanager . I cant pinpoint what triggers this , but after that , it slowly starts to slow down and everything i click , starts to hang and eventually taskmanager also stops responding , i had to hard reset or reset .. only option.

My pc 3080 , 5600x , 2 tb ssd.

I used DDU and reinstall nvidia drivers to latest ,

Ran Kaspersky , malwarebytes , hitmanpro , all came negative

Ran system integrity check , ran error checking for harddisk related errors ,

updated os , browser etc
checking taskmanager , nothing suspcious.

Solutions thus far (29/9/23)

1. Changed XMP Profile
2. Reseated GPU , checked all wires
3. Removed offending softwares (possible) - whatsapp - Moved to web , taskbarx , etc
4. updated all drivers , os etc
5.ran DISM / CHCKDSK , MEMORY Diagnostic test
6. Scanned with KIS , Malwarebytes,Hitman pro for possible malicious items
7. Removed HWmonitor , CPU-Z , GPU-Z as per @calvin1719 advice - i would have in million years wouldnt have suspected these ..



yet to Reinstall OS and Update Motherboard firmware.
 
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one thing i forgot is , hardly two months back only i moved from 970 SSD to 980 SSD , by cloning the 970 to 980. Would that cause any issue ?

In event manager , i see loads of errors pertaining to Volume shadow copy.

I am looking into the errors , thanks for the advice.
 
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A perfectly cloned disk shouldn't have any issues unless the parent disk and os already had error.
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its shouldnt.

DISM , SCANSFC are fine..

sorting through event manager .. but upon next such event , will keep eye on event manager.
i did install cuda drivers , but even before that i was having such weird issues..
any other scan i should do , just to be sure , there is no malware , miners etc ?
changed power setting to balance , nvidia cp power management to normal ,
reinstalled nvidia drivers in safe mode only.

Update 1 :

I saw one event which said "A pointer device has no information about the monitor it is attached to."

I have a usb hub to which my kb is connected. I have now plugged my kb directly into motherboard.

That usb hub was having some weird issues , have taken off from system. Lets see. Hope it should resolve. I do have 5 ext hdd connected..through a powered usb hub , hope its not the issue...


Update 2 :

After removing that hub (anker) , pretty old one too, so far no slowdown ,or weirdness or crash.

Will keep running and let you guys know if it crashes again.

I still remember when my old mouse , kb and ext hdd was connected to it, there were mild glitches , where KB wont work , would have to replug the usb etc. thought i was due to too many usb connected , but recent linus video showed it wont be an issue.


Update 3 :

So far nothing. Anyone can put forth any theories why it caused GPU to ramp to 100% / -1% ? And slows the entire PC slowly ?
 
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Update 4 :

It happened again. there is not much in event manager.. general stuff. Any other method to see what is happening real time ?

I have removed the usb plug given for Cooler Master MM712.

At this point , i am running the very basic peripheral , Kb , Wired Mouse , displays (hdmi and dp) , thats all.

Removed all other USB`s , including powered USB hub >> 4 ext HDD , 2 EXT hdd connected directly to pc.

Anyone can give me some pointers .. i will be happy.

Symptom is same , Randomly the pc starts to slow (particularly after i click or use kb) , GPU ramps up to very high speed , then every window i touch becomes unresponsive.. then goes to complete freeze.
 
Try one ram at a time (You haven't mentioned the rams and modules)

Try a fresh, clean and neat OS installation and just use the OS for few days while not installing any games or heavy apps.
 
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G.Skill 3200 cl16 4x8Gb ram

Today removed gpu , reseated , checked all wires. was about to shuffle ram , then left , since it might include removing the top radiator(cpu) of AIO.

thinking of reinstalling makes my head spin.. :arghh:

Keeping it as very last effort.

guide me to a get a clean OS ISO


Update 5 :

Few odd things , When it boots , it shows 3 kbds , 2 mice 0 mass ,1 hubs

But i have connected only 1 kb , 1 mouse , audio jack , thats all. Very weird.

Ran Memory Test , it came out fine.

I am finding extremely hard to pinpoint an issue.

Chjanged XMP prfile from 2 to 1 , just in case there is frequency mismatch at 2
 
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for now , i dont have option to RMA the board , since i need to pc for other works(important) for next few weeks.
I havent updated the BIOS though , its almost a year old bios , @rk17 updated it for me before he sold the board. Will do that in case i encounter another crash.

system is kind of stable with xmp 1 profile. someone suggest a tool to identify the issue or track. I tried process explorer (before xmp change) , it too became unresponsive when the system started to hang.

so far no issues. But help me see areas where i am failing to see.
Started Backing up stuff slowly.

Few things in the last month :

1. SSD clone from 970 to 980
2. Too many software/dependency/.net/python stuffs for AI project
3. Too many usb hubs and ext hdd (5-6) ,
4. Too much backups / data back and forth the ext hdd and my nas and my ssd etc.
Thanks Alucard1729 for PM`ing me . Thanks a lot.. Wonderful gesture.
 
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Naveen_Reloaded said:
for now , i dont have option to RMA the board , since i need to pc for other works(important) for next few weeks.
I havent updated the BIOS though , its almost a year old bios , @rk17 updated it for me before he sold the board. Will do that in case i encounter another crash.

system is kind of stable with xmp 1 profile. someone suggest a tool to identify the issue or track. I tried process explorer (before xmp change) , it too became unresponsive when the system started to hang.

so far no issues. But help me see areas where i am failing to see.
Started Backing up stuff slowly.

Few things in the last month :

1. SSD clone from 970 to 980
2. Too many software/dependency/.net/python stuffs for AI project
3. Too many usb hubs and ext hdd (5-6) ,
4. Too much backups / data back and forth the ext hdd and my nas and my ssd etc.
Thanks Alucard1729 for PM`ing me . Thanks a lot.. Wonderful gesture.
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You haven't mentioned the motherboard brand/model.
In bios, do check for auto AI OC option if thats present and enabled. Disable it/make it manual! I had such option in earlier Asus mobos and most of the time the culprit used to be this AI OC tweaking which is unfortunately by default enabled in many mobos.
 
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Naveen_Reloaded said:
Have been trying out AI stuff recently , wherein i was installing python , git etc (all from genuine source)

Weirdly for past few days , the pc starts to slow down after i do say select a browser on my second monitor ,or open up taskmanager . I cant pinpoint what triggers this , but after that , it slowly starts to slow down and everything i click , starts to hang and eventually taskmanager also stops responding , i had to hard reset or reset .. only option.

My pc 3080 , 5600x , 2 tb ssd.

I used DDU and reinstall nvidia drivers to latest ,

Ran Kaspersky , malwarebytes , hitmanpro , all came negative

Ran system integrity check , ran error checking for harddisk related errors ,

updated os , browser etc
checking taskmanager , nothing suspcious.
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Generally OS slowdown after start is linked with RAM failure.
You can try-
1. Removing the installed RAM and using different/someone's RAM to check.
2. Updating the Graphics Driver.
 
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sorry ,

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ROCCAT Vulcan 121 AMO KB
CM MM712 mouse
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TechUser00 said:
Generally OS slowdown after start is linked with RAM failure.
You can try-
1. Removing the installed RAM and using different/someone's RAM to check.
2. Updating the Graphics Driver.
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I think the title is misleading at present juncture of the problem.
The System runs fine for X amount of time and then something initiates a slowdown and subsequent crash.
But after changing to XMP PROFILe , the issue has not pop`d up.
Also as per @rk17 , i have disabled fastboot on windows as well , will be doing the same in BIOS as well.

Its been years a problem like this rose for me which went to creating a thread and asking for help..(remembering the days on digit forum)
 
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Also, check in Task scheduler for any fishy/malware task entry which sets itself active/trigger after a specific interval resulting in the slowdown.
 
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nothing suspicious.. from the looks of things. But thanks again for pointing them out.
ran three software to weed out any malicious software.

anyway disabled most of them , particularly the sh%t edge

So far no crashes.. wish it just continues the work well from here on. @rk17 did point me on whatsapp that it could be something to do with fastboot enabled on last ssd and not being carried over to new one properly.
 

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If the problem resurfaces, boot from a Linux Live USB and use it for a 2-3 days. If you face problem in Linux too, it is your hardware. If not, its windows.
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true.


Update 6

Two days nothing happened. I was simply browsing the web with waterfox , vivaldi and whatsapp was there .. There was some weird interaction , and i noted , when i start pressing backspace (keep pressing) in whatsapp it started to hang... i mean , it could be either the system was already started to slowdown/crash in the background or this KB input initiated it.

More weird. Atleast the frequency came down. Removed few softwares like samsung magician , TaskbarX ,etc

Moving and planning to do a reinstall of win 10 fully. someome please point me to original ISO (latest) and also for office.

I have very strong belief it could be the shitty whatsapp :mad: {uninstalled]
 
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Naveen_Reloaded said:
true.


Update 6

Two days nothing happened. I was simply browsing the web with waterfox , vivaldi and whatsapp was there .. There was some weird interaction , and i noted , when i start pressing backspace (keep pressing) in whatsapp it started to hang... i mean , it could be either the system was already started to slowdown/crash in the background or this KB input initiated it.

More weird. Atleast the frequency came down. Removed few softwares like samsung magician , TaskbarX ,etc

Moving and planning to do a reinstall of win 10 fully. someome please point me to original ISO (latest) and also for office.

I have very strong belief it could be the shitty whatsapp :mad: {uninstalled]
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Download microsoft media creation tool. It will download windows 10 iso and prepare bootable USB
 
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