Car & Bike How is the Mahindra Bolero ?

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Innova eyes closed for comfort factor. Have traveled many times nonstop for 5hrs+ and even driven twice. Awesome suv.

Bolero is for punishing India roads. Loud and clear it can steer any road and valleys. and maintenance cost is like maruti compared to toyota.

Xylo is different as it got individual seats at rear as well giving you the comfort of a luxury bus and yes with loads of leg room that you will even miss in top end cars and luxuries.

Fortuner is luxury on every road with its height and greater stability factor. Only thing it lacks is the far rear seats arent actually designed for seating etc. but just for show or to carry or sit luggage on a height. Else its the best among these three.
 
^^I can understand that the comfort was compromised to make other areas better.
Alright alright what is the real difference between the Bolero and the TUV300? Pros and Cons (if any) of the TUV300 over the Bolero?
 
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Superbad said:
Carry 10 people?
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Officially bolero carries 8 according to registration docs. You can cram 20 in any car even a maruti 800 if you really want to. However that doesn't make it a better vehicle. If you want to carry dozens of people, buy a bus.
 
Chaos said:
Officially bolero carries 8 according to registration docs. You can cram 20 in any car even a maruti 800 if you really want to. However that doesn't make it a better vehicle. If you want to carry dozens of people, buy a bus.
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For comfortable seating i count 7 adult including the driver. 2 front, 3 middle and 2 back.
 
iPwnz said:
^^I can understand that the comfort was compromised to make other areas better.
Alright alright what is the real difference between the Bolero and the TUV300? Pros and Cons (if any) of the TUV300 over the Bolero?
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bolero: old school 2.5L diesel engine. maybe available in Bs-3 emission norms if you stay in a remote localtion.

TUV: 1.5L 3 cylinder all aluminium mhawk engine,derived from the scorpio, with a one less cylinder. has dual stage turbo to overcome the difference in displacement.

on paper specs look identical, with TUV scoring better in the aesthetics department atleast in the interiors.
newer engine would be more or less maintenance free.
of what i remember the older bolero engine , used to drink engine oil a lot. one needs to have a ready can of engine oil ready to top up after a long drive.
apart from that, drive to understand your preferences, as each and every person has different preferences.

M&M sells boleros by the truckloads, so dont expect any offers from the dealers, read on tbhp that orders are handled directly by the manufacturer themselves.
 
2.5L vs 1.5L engine you say? Then a TUV will also solve this problem:
Criminal said:
i know you are not a cheapo like delhiites but for the sake of entire country, please don't buy a diesel bolero.
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Seriously though I thought that the TUV would have a much higher advantage over the Bolero aside from the aesthetic designs (which is like the lowest on my priority list). I'm not an expert on cars, heck i don't even know how to drive one but other than the huge con of the 2.5L of the Bolero to a newbie like me it sounds like the Bolero is a better and also the more affordable option. Clarifications/arguments/discussion are most welcome. I would like to better understand them from reading posts here than reviews.
If budget is not an issue i would insta pick the Innova. But their spare parts and maintenance are much costlier than others right?
 
There is something about the interior smell in brand new mahindra vehicles be it a bolero or xuv500,its just wants to make me puke.

As far as the bolero vs innova.The latter is league appart in terms of refinement,comfort,its even better then the xuv500.
 
Lot of subjective hate for the Bolero. To each his own.

@iPwnz if hiring out for private taxi is the main purpose, I suggest you talk to local tourist taxi operators and find out which vehicle is more sought after. It could be the Innova, Bolero or another car entirely like the Logan/Verito.
 
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2.5L vs 1.5L engine you say? Then a TUV will also solve this problem:
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yes. have been critical of that criteria for long. that is no way any parameter to see if its polluting or not.
the volvo sells their diesel SUVs at under 2L specs and world over comparison wise their pollution charts are higher than the similar category diesels.
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Seriously though I thought that the TUV would have a much higher advantage over the Bolero aside from the aesthetic designs (which is like the lowest on my priority list). I'm not an expert on cars, heck i don't even know how to drive one but other than the huge con of the 2.5L of the Bolero to a newbie like me it sounds like the Bolero is a better and also the more affordable option. Clarifications/arguments/discussion are most welcome. I would like to better understand them from reading posts here than reviews.
If budget is not an issue i would insta pick the Innova. But their spare parts and maintenance are much costlier than others right?
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bolero is a bare bones option. if refinement and comfort is not your criteria , just lower running costs is (i.e service from your local garage , spares from your nearby shop) bolero would be much lighter on the pocket.
 
Its quite idiotic that our government(s) use Engine capacity and not the amount of pollutants produced as criteria to judge environmental saviness of cars.
 
manu1991 said:
Its quite idiotic that our government(s) use Engine capacity and not the amount of pollutants produced as criteria to judge environmental saviness of cars.
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Not to worry. They are awaiting the same fate which bombed Volkswagen.
 
manu1991 said:
Its quite idiotic that our government(s) use Engine capacity and not the amount of pollutants produced as criteria to judge environmental saviness of cars.
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Don't think government suggested that option. It was more with the courts.

Similar to the ban on all types of films on cars.
 
What ban are you talking about?

Because in Delhi, you can't register a diesel car > 2000cc till 31st March. Obviously its for pollution reasons, why else? So if a 1999cc diesel car emits 10x the pollution of a 2001cc one, you can register the former but not the latter.

Also, there is a lower excise duty on petrol cars below 1200cc. Again, no consideration on pollution.

My point was regarding both these things.
 
manu1991 said:
What ban are you talking about?
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The same one that you are talking about!

2litre diesel car pollutes more than a 1.9litre one is utter nonsense. SC is not comprised of a bunch of nincompoops, who'd come up with such an idea.

Though SC is not so sane either. SC thinks that a car having >2litre diesel engine (read powerful) comes under luxury vehicle category. Diesel is meant for industrial/agricultural use and that's why it carries subsidy. SC doesn't want subsidised fuel to be used by RICH people or luxury cars. SC wants to curb this practice, not pollution. Pollution can't be controlled just by stopping registration of bigger engine PRIVATE diesel vehicles. There will be lakhs of COMMERCIAL vehicles registered during the same ban period, with diesel engines bigger than 2litre.

How many big diesel SUVs do you see in Delhi, in comparison to small diesel cars? It's a very small number. Rich can afford to drive one big diesel SUV per family member, which is a sheer wastage of road space as well as fuel. SC wants to stop this practice. Moreover, who is going to keep a check on >2litre diesel vehicles that are already registered and plying on delhi roads? Will they stop polluting until 31st March 2016?

Both petrol and diesel fuels are polluting. Petrol engines release more carbon than diesels while diesel engines emit a lot of particulate matter - which is the area of concern for Delhi's air right now. Don't think that who drive petrol vehicles are environment friendly people.
 
The right thing to do would be ban on smaller diesel engines coz they comprise of more than 60 percent of diesel passenger car sales. Those cars are better off with petrol engines. Suv or muvs carry more people in one car and they can't be expected to run on petrol since they would then need bigger engines to overcome the deficit in the torque to move those heavy vehicles.

Buying a diesel sedan now makes no sense since the price difference between the two fuels has very much narrowed down and the upfront costs in buying a diesel car doesn't help in the overall savings for the running costs in today's scenario.
 
manu1991 said:
What ban are you talking about?

Because in Delhi, you can't register a diesel car > 2000cc till 31st March. Obviously its for pollution reasons, why else? So if a 1999cc diesel car emits 10x the pollution of a 2001cc one, you can register the former but not the latter.

Also, there is a lower excise duty on petrol cars below 1200cc. Again, no consideration on pollution.

My point was regarding both these things.
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The CC cutoff was quite dumb to be honest.
 
asingh said:
The CC cutoff was quite dumb to be honest.
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As Criminal has pointed out earlier, the CC cutoff has nothing to do with pollution.
Higher CC diesel engines are usually found in luxury cars. So the SC doesn't want people who can afford luxury cars to use the subsidized fuel that is actually meant for commercial vehicles and farmers.

I would, however, like to know how countries like US and Canada deal with this issue. There, diesel is priced higher than petrol. From what, one of my friends told me, the Truck/Commercial drivers get diesel at subsidized rates. I would like to know how they implement it without black marketing of diesel and how difficult would it be to implement it in India. I know that they implement work hours for commercial drivers very stringently so I don't think it is too difficult for them to implement some system for the distribution of subsidized fuel as well.
 
Subsidy is now waived for diesel. There's no differential pricing for diesel in the USA. Only for European countries diesel is priced higher than petrol.
 
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