Is reputation system dying slowly?

[Mephistopheles]

I have explained this a couple of times before and still it comes up.

So here goes.

i) You can rep only 'n' no of times in a particular time period.

ii) Once you rep a person you cant rep him back unless you rep 10-12 person.

ii) Most importantly the no. of points you can rep another person with is only ~1%-2% of the points you have.

For eg., if someone has '0' points then if you rep someone else they will get only '0' points. If you have ~50 points then only the person you rep will get '1' point. So work out yourselves how long it would take to take out a coup like that.

In the same way a gang of 10 can also like each and every post among their own gang and the like bar can increase by 100's in a day which is impossible in the rep system

See, this system is flawed that way. If I want to rep the same person genuinely again I can't. I'm forced to rep some 10-12 other people.

What If I see a very good an informative article/post from the person I had recently repped, again? And there are no other members who have done anything to deserve a rep in that time period?

With likes, there is no such problem and the main objective of reps (i.e. to motivate or to acknowledge) is also met.

So what else does the rep system have to offer?

imagine old reputable members going away for a while due to personal problems and returning back to realize that no one acknowledges their past. The people who knew the member would do but for the rest of the member..he is just another noob know joined a few years ago and never cared to earn any reputation...kind of a leech he looks like when he posts a query .. yes..i paint quite a picture

What if there was no rep system at all?

Simple, why are the members creating these threads, because the like system is not giving them enough exposure, so i have suggested the like-meter, that will do the work ie required exposure for the members to feed on

Err..what? what exposure? :S

It's quite obvious that liking a post is far easier than repping it...so why can't these dots depend upon likes rather than reps?

Like I said, having something like this public has its disadvantages. Having a like meter instead of reps would be counter productive as likes can be given by anybody on anything, and the probability of a member having high no. of likes giving comparatively lesser efficient solutions/posts will rise.

If we are to have something public, then between the two reps is what it should be. Although I feel the rep system should be done away with or they could be non-static.

REPS on the other hand, are useful when you wish to acknowledge someone's hard work, perhaps in the form of guides and other useful resources for the benefit of all members..

What's wrong with acknowledging someone with likes?

 

[arun687]

I think both the systems, as it is now, should exist. The reps of a member shown straight below his nick gives people a general idea of how valuable his/her contribution has been. The likes on the other hand, within a thread help to point out the posts that are most enjoyed/acknowledged by other members.

We cannot see what posts received reps but we can see 'likes' within the post, so we instantly know that the post is useful/witty.

Also as pointed out by members earlier, reps should be given to seriously good stuff whereas 'likes' have a more casual feel to it than reps.

 

[Mephistopheles]

I think both the systems, as it is now, should exist. The reps of a member shown straight below his nick gives people a general idea of how valuable his/her contribution has been.

Why would people want a general idea of how valuable his/her contribution has been?

Are members with high reps supposed to be treated differently?

 

[nRiTeCh]

Why would people want a general idea of how valuable his/her contribution has been?

Are members with high reps supposed to be treated differently?

No one wants anyone to be treated differently nor want to compare or measure his contribution, then why to show his/her reputation status here? Better keep just the username, his post counts, age, loc & rest nothing, it will appear even more clean without the member type & the green dots which you feel isnt that great or useful for anybody.

One can measure a members expertise esp. noobs form his rep. levels & will certainly agree & be satisfied if a reputed member answers his query. I'm not saying that low rep people will quote wrongly but practically speaking it goes this way.

Else make the Likes such that after 25-50 likes, it will get add to a persons reps.

 

[SunnyBoi]

ummm people care about reputation points on forums even now? grow up.

 

[asingh]

^^ Bro If I could rep you 10 times for that.

One funny thing I'd like to post.

I have had 4 bars since the last 6-10 reputation points I have received. I don't understand, is it a bug? or am I cursed?

Not really. They accumulate as you gather 100 points or something. But as the greenies increase, the seed base level is increased. So it gets more difficult once you cross 6-7 bars.

 

[Neo-N]

For eg., if someone has '0' points then if you rep someone else they will get only '0' points. If you have ~50 points then only the person you rep will get '1' point. So work out yourselves how long it would take to take out a coup like that.

^^ It's quiet possible and easier than you think... Especially for those members who have nothing else to do!! And in my opinion, they are the ones who would be most interested in making their rep bar longer!

 

[Bluffmaster]

^IIRC, When I was a mod at FE, the Rep counter was visible to us. Don't know if its visible to TE mods or not. The point is if some suspicious activity was going on with reps, rest assured, the mods/admin would know about it.

 

[comp@ddict]

Like many members, I also used to ask for reps when I joined this forum. Do you believe, I asked one question like "When will I become admin?" on another board when I just started using forum (Around 8 years back). It was my silly mind who made me asking this question. I was thinking, If I complete 100 posts stage, I'll become senior member. If I complete 500, I'll become advanced user, then if I complete 1500 posts stage, I'll become ADMIN :bleh: That was totally lame.

When I joined TE, I first looked for reputation bar to increase because that was looking good I asked few peoples to distribute some reps (In very early stage, please don't ban me ). Now, it's over 4-5 months after I've received the last rep. It doesn't matter for me now. Neither I give, nor I receive. I like the "LIKE" system a lot though.

I've never asked anyone to rep me, nor will I ever rep. My posts, however stupid, or sometimes helpful and informative, are posted because I want to or I want to share my knowledge (however limited that may be) or I want to help a person.

I havn't asked for reps or likes, nor will I ever do.

 

[Spacescreamer]

I've never asked anyone to rep me, nor will I ever rep.

Blasphemy!!
Ban Him :null: j/k

 

[thetoxicmind]

Well in that case these kinda threads wouldn't exist anyways and if most of the members have gone past the phase of expecting reps why do we have it anyways. IMO only the senior members have gone that phase might be coz the bars don't increase for them but for the new members they definitely would like to see the bars increase.

Ok, let me put it this way... I never once did ask for reps for any of my contributions here. It was all out of appreciation, where I was only going about my own business, reading and sharing stuff.

In short, I wasn't really paying attention to the rep bar increasing nor was I alarmed when it stopped.

You make it sound like a "mission objective", rather than an entity that shows how helpful you've been to the community.

It's quite obvious that liking a post is far easier than repping it...so why can't these dots depend upon likes rather than reps?
in other words remove the repp system & move solely on like system....100 like points=1 dot (1 like point if the liker has got 2 dots with him...3 if he's got 6 dots and so on)?

1. Yes, it's far easier, AGREED.

2. Having the LIKE system replace the REP system is pointless, as both serve different purposes.

As I mentioned in my previous post, repping someone is akin to lauding someone's efforts and giving him some serious credit.

Liking someone's post, is simply a quick way of saying " Amen brother! I totally agree..." or perhaps "good one! "...

 

[madnav]

It is not like people are forgetting tp rep just because Like system is introduced.

I have received reps recently for reasons as stupid as 'Nice dp bro..is that you?!!'

reported t mods and got deleted.

so it is not like people are unaware of 'rep' system.. It is just that the post may not be worth repping. And estimation of worth is subjective to how much the information is valuable to the person repping you.

stop being a reppist...

 

[comp@ddict]

Blasphemy!!

Ban Him :null: j/k

Really sorry, that was a mistake. LOLOL can't believe I put that there!

 

[M@crosoft]

1. Yes, it's far easier, AGREED.

2. Having the LIKE system replace the REP system is pointless, as both serve different purposes.

As I mentioned in my previous post, repping someone is akin to lauding someone's efforts and giving him some serious credit.

Liking someone's post, is simply a quick way of saying " Amen brother! I totally agree..." or perhaps "good one! "...

Can't we have the rep button somewhere near the like button...also making it a single click activity ?

 

[madnav]

Can't we have the rep button somewhere near the like button...also making it a single click activity ?

it maybe pleasant experience to rep somebody; and for some, getting repped

but the idea is to make it as difficult as possible for the repist so that he will only do so when he feels very strongly about it :lol:

sorry couldnt resist

 

[M@crosoft]

it maybe pleasant experience to rep somebody; and for some, getting repped
but the idea is to make it as difficult as possible for the repist so that he will only do so when he feels very strongly about it :lol:

sorry couldnt resist

All reputed members have got only this to say:|

 

[comp@ddict]

Hmm, make it difficult? It's already a 100 points for a new bar. And I just got 5 right now

 

[madnav]

All reputed members have got only this to say:|

read my previous posts..the specific that you quoted was full on puns.

i'm going to start "Is Like system dying slowly?" if you don't like it :no:

 

[ashish]

Reps wont die but its true that they have snailed.

Likes can also be linked to reputation point. Say, every 50likes earned will add to 10reps for that member.

 

[madnav]

Reps wont die but its true that they have snailed.

Likes can also be linked to reputation point. Say, every 50likes earned will add to 10reps for that member.

not really, people like all sorts of things...n also people rep all sorts of things..the question here, is where to draw a line between the two.!!

perhaps mods/admin can draw some guidelines... least we can do about this...