Is reputation system dying slowly?

[madnav]

i have an interesting idea..

how about using rep points to purchase custom badges?

enough motivating for a purpose as well keeps your points intact while you are inactive on forum.

custom badges would be valid for a quarter or two or per annum basis depending upon the reps being spent

killing reps is like discarding the hard work done in past. It is not like members are being paid and it is not like the reps are equally valuable for every member; and the least that can be done to not discourage is to not reset the reps. some may not care and some may. thus the above idea of spending reps for badges.

 

[Spacescreamer]

^ A month/6weeks max.. or two months maybe.

Qtr is gonna be too much imo.

 

[6pack]

Put this text before the reps bar -> Helpfull posts : ............

Problem solved.

No need to expire them or trade them or whatever.

 

[madnav]

Put this text before the reps bar -> Helpfull posts : ............

Problem solved.

No need to expire them or trade them or whatever.

weight of reps will be useless. one may create 10 accounts per day and start repping his preferred account posts and render this useless.

similarly, single post with 100members repping may still reflect as one helpful post.

such a member with one helpful post looks less credible than the above member with 10 helpful posts per day.

a bigger problem is created.

 

[Mephistopheles]

killing reps is like discarding the hard work done in past. It is not like members are being paid and it is not like the reps are equally valuable for every member; and the least that can be done to not discourage is to not reset the reps. some may not care and some may. thus the above idea of spending reps for badges.

I would suggest that the green bars turn grey rather than disappear completely, so that it would still indicate the max rep a person has achieved.

How about now?

^ Admin implementation :lol:
I had suggested something similar - resetting reps every month.

Damn :'(

 

[6pack]

weight of reps will be useless. one may create 10 accounts per day and start repping his preferred account posts and render this useless.

similarly, single post with 100members repping may still reflect as one helpful post.

such a member with one helpful post looks less credible than the above member with 10 helpful posts per day.

a bigger problem is created.

Then i vote for post no 91 above.

 

[madnav]

How about now?
Damn :'(

reply was meant for resetting reps.

although, how does making them grey solve the reputation system issues as it has been presented in the thread?

@Topic

'Senior members not repping' has been around even when i joined but then it was a taboo to ask for reps. members repped with respect to what they thought is rep worthy.. people still do rep on that basis.

The person making the post has no right to demand or decide what is worth reps and what is not for others.

Every person takes efforts to compile a good post and just because he feels it is rep worthy should that mean every member who reads it shall rep it?

That is precisely what this topic/thread expresses by saying the rep system is dying. Is it so hard to accept that the quality of posts over the years has gone so low that people do not find anything worth repping as often as before?

GT is one of the most active sections since a long time now, is that not a sign of degraded quality in technical areas?

Is it necessary for one member to rep different people over the time for same content?

If you have come across an information an year ago which was new to you and you repped then, would you still find the same information of the same value at present and rep again to new post?

That is one of the reason why people do not rep sometimes even for good posts. The information maynot be of the same value for every member. I have experienced that in past and I think it was fair from their stand.

 

[Mephistopheles]

reply was meant for resetting reps.

although, how does making them grey solve the reputation system issues as it has been presented in the thread?

How does it not solve the issue?

The only 'problem' with the expiring rep idea was, as you had put it:

imagine old reputable members going away for a while due to personal problems and returning back to realize that no one acknowledges their past.

Rather than the green dots disappearing altogether, they could turn grey over time thus solving this issue.

 

[madnav]

How does it not solve the issue?

The only 'problem' with the expiring rep idea was, as you had put it:

Rather than the green dots disappearing altogether, they could turn grey over time thus solving this issue.

issue is 'dying reputation system'

how is it solved?

 

[Gannu]

Much ado about nothing. :|

 

[Mephistopheles]

issue is 'dying reputation system'

how is it solved?

What? :S

Did you not read my posts in this thread?

I remember suggesting this earlier, I'd suggest so again. Reps shouldn't be static rather they should slowly expire over time.

This way, the rep bar would indicate the 'current' reputation of the member and the 'current' probability of his post being right.

What if a person used to be credible, but isn't so much now?

What if the person used to be helpful, used to be very active but isnt very much now? What if a person used to be knowledgeable, but his knowledge is outdated now?

The current reputation system neglects all this.

The expiring reputation system, like I suggested would take into account all this. It will also maybe bring back the rep system to 'life' so to say. It will motivate people to rep more where required.

I wouldn't think that the significance of reps is that high as you say it to be. I maybe wrong in judging its significance for a member perhaps.

If reps are to be taken as a kind of acknowledgement for the work one might have done, then I guess its fine.

But then some might mispercieve reputation to be proportional to tech knowledge, for example a relatively newer member. In that case, it would be unfair to the member with lesser reputation points whose post/solution might be better than the post of a member with higher reputation points (considering this member isn't very consistent and his knowledge is now outdated) but the member who had (supposedly) asked a query chose the latter as the 'better' solution/post on the basis of reps.

 

[Dark Star]

weight of reps will be useless. one may create 10 accounts per day and start repping his preferred account posts and render this useless.
similarly, single post with 100members repping may still reflect as one helpful post.
such a member with one helpful post looks less credible than the above member with 10 helpful posts per day.

a bigger problem is created.

Well do you think that will happen ?

A person with 0 rep will contribute no rep point. So making new account inorder to increase reputation points is useless. Until and unless a person has 12+ rep point he/she won't add to someones rep point while giving reputation.

Rep Power ( The amount of point given while repping) is directly proportional to user own reputation point and the number of posts. However own reputation points has the more weight-age while deciding the amount of rep point that are to be awarded.

 

[madnav]

Well do you think that will happen ?

A person with 0 rep will contribute no rep point. So making new account inorder to increase reputation points is useless. Until and unless a person has 12+ rep point he/she won't add to someones rep point while giving reputation.

Rep Power ( The amount of point given while repping) is directly proportional to user own reputation point and the number of posts. However own reputation points has the more weight-age while deciding the amount of rep point that are to be awarded.

read again...

his idea was to display repped posts instead of rep points...n what i said was that it can be exploited unlike the current system..

 

[The Sauron]

Why fuss about rep system? come out of virtual world to help other without expecting anything in return. My vote is to rep system doesn't matter for me and if required, should be disabled.

 

[Neo-N]

Why fuss about rep system? come out of virtual world to help other without expecting anything in return. My vote is to rep system doesn't matter for me and if required, should be disabled.

^^ That coming from a Member who has a big green bar is rare... And I salute you for that... :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[CA50]

^ actually members with big green bar speaks in this way, only we with small green bar wants the rep system

 

[madnav]

^^ That coming from a Member who has a big green bar is rare... And I salute you for that... :clap: :clap: :clap:

sorry to say but you are contradicting yourself in this very post.

1. You are taking a statement with gratitude because he has a big rep bar. Shows that the rep system does matter alot in your opinion, be it subconsciously.

2. You are fighting for a cause that would stop you from the mentioned thing in point 1.

I, like many others, have seen you being very active in GT...necessarily or unnecessarily..really not a point which can be debated.

BUT, the rep system deals with areas relating tech section. and i see less than 5 posts of yours in tech section in past 100 posts; none helpful if i shall be precise.

I really do not understand whether you comprehend the system... are you just fighting for the cause because you are too lazy to post quality tech content ?

most of your posts are just rants about this and that.

I could understand if you were indeed helping in those sections and then concluding that reps are not being given to you...so what is even your basis of saying rep system is useless/dying?

Psychologically we conclude how we perceive.. is it because you yourself do not rep much..is that what leads you to fight for this assuming everyone else would be doing the same?

I just feel that you love to contradict with the norm, but please have a reason...a reasonable one.

please analyze your profile... an advice and not a personal attack to be on the same page here.

 

[phoenix844884]

Again, it's either rep, or like. One will stand, the other will fall.

 

[asingh]

I personally feel REP system is still active. I still get them, and give them out when deem fit. In fact with the "like" protocol, REPs are more prized.



Suddenly the stakes are higher.

 

[Mephistopheles]

@Madnav: Please don't conveniently ignore what you wish and address only those things that you feel like addressing or have a reasonable argument for/against.

My question still stands.