^^ He did have a chance to place his viewpoint earlier when he was watching this thread. Now, it too late. Once banned, he should not be allowed to post. The ban has been placed after thorough analysis of the case by the Mods. Lifting the ban for a single post is not gonna change anything. Unless he relents & accepts the returned item against a full refund. Since u guys have talked with him, ask him whether he is willing to give a refund.
Market Feedback Issue with member uziel
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ankxxs said:
gr8 guys, you deserve reps for this but no option, will see I can rep you otherwise, but what you did surly deserve kudos.
Now lets hope things get sorted soon.
I have gone through all the above 10 pages of expert comments. I dont like to defend as wrong allegations have been forced. Some members are mods here so they have power to ban my id, I can least do any thing about this. I have sold several items in this forum with no issues. I have sold to seshu what I promised, what was there in picture and what I had with myself. This product was not created by me in my lab/room. So I dont know neither can I know all features what it has. I bought it from Dell wich buys it from Avermedia. Its not a rice pudding that I cooked in my kitchen and then told you it is very sweet as I have put lot of Sugar and later after selling it to you, and you eating it you found that it was not that sweet. Its cheating. What ever is sold in this forum are all well know branded produts. Apart from the forums, even if we buy it from retailers/wholesellers, we have a trust as
while buying you cannot verify all features. Most shops thats why write "no refund/return' as they themselves dont know much about the product. You people have written that I have concealed the information. Do you expect me to write each and every info here while selling. Who does that, no one. If one is selling mobile, does he specifiy that it has a icrophone, has battery in it, it plays mp3 etc, no one does, thay will just write mobile is good condition, write some main features and then give a link. For me, Avermedia has just one website for Model HC82, and Dell obviously does not have any link for this card so for a buyers convenience, I have to give a link. The product and the link are talking abt the same model, the card no where in its top says its a OEM version neither did I know. How do you all expect to know all the features of the product.
I did not buy this card as a FM card, this is a TV card. FM is just an addition feature which I was never interested in so I was not sure if it works, neither I tested. I am just interested in seeing in TV can be tuned which it did so I closed the case. For seshu, FM was important so he should have first researched if the AVre card from Dell will support this feature. I had clearly mentioned to him that Dell gave me this card and not Aver.
You all got so much carried away by the reviews that I made in other sites. What ever I posted there was not a verdict. That was all what I persoally felt after researching on net. One of the post some where said that FM will not work so thats what I posted there. I contacted Aver and they said it will work so whom should I believe. Since FM was not important to me so I never put the sase forward. My reviews are my personal thoughts, they cant be used in court of law as a fact. I may be wrong, I may be misinterpreting etc. My reviewing the pduduct just had one intention that if any new buyer wanted to research before buying, atleast he had some approx guideline wich he can further build upon and be careful. This does not mean what I have written there is a fact, its just a wayfinder. Whatever is written there is my experience. I have written that I will not reccomend it not becoz the card it bad (its sold in millions and is a hugely popular card), its just that I got bad technical and sales support. Still I dint sell the card immediately as I though I will research more but never really got time so thought to clear it off, some one might need it.
People have written that despite knowing the drawbacks, I still resold the card. So what should I have done! Make a cocktail & drink it? Do to review sites, all products have pros and cons, they are still sold and resold and the trading continues as its buyers whose decision matters. TE market forum is for off loading extra stuffs thats no more in use. I did the same. I cannot guarantee a information that I am not sure about. Buyer should have used his discration. I clearly told him that I have not tested FM neither I wish to take back the card as its a second hand sale. Now buyer should have taxed his thought process. For me, this was just selling an unused stuff, not conning someone.
The buyer also asked me to check if this card will work with Dell Inspiron 6400 which was his job, not mine. Stil I researched. Now if he a a different OS which does not have MCE, I cant help. I had clearly written It will work in Dell systems coz other systems will not detect the card as mentioned in some sites. What ever I knew, I mentioned there in the trade post.
Also I have never replied to this post as I need time. There has to be someone to type for me, I can type as I am a terminal cancer patient, my hands/fingers are totally worn out and bleed/pus. It pains and I am therefore bed ridden as I cannot move my whole body. If I go according to docs views, I have limited time. Hence members who have posted here saying that Uziel is not posting as he is a conner, has ran away .... God is there to do justice with you. I am not here to con someone in my painful days. I have read all the 10 pages and seen TE members views thinking there were well matured but it seems otherwise. Buyer should have clearly refused to trade if he thought all was not well.
while buying you cannot verify all features. Most shops thats why write "no refund/return' as they themselves dont know much about the product. You people have written that I have concealed the information. Do you expect me to write each and every info here while selling. Who does that, no one. If one is selling mobile, does he specifiy that it has a icrophone, has battery in it, it plays mp3 etc, no one does, thay will just write mobile is good condition, write some main features and then give a link. For me, Avermedia has just one website for Model HC82, and Dell obviously does not have any link for this card so for a buyers convenience, I have to give a link. The product and the link are talking abt the same model, the card no where in its top says its a OEM version neither did I know. How do you all expect to know all the features of the product.
I did not buy this card as a FM card, this is a TV card. FM is just an addition feature which I was never interested in so I was not sure if it works, neither I tested. I am just interested in seeing in TV can be tuned which it did so I closed the case. For seshu, FM was important so he should have first researched if the AVre card from Dell will support this feature. I had clearly mentioned to him that Dell gave me this card and not Aver.
You all got so much carried away by the reviews that I made in other sites. What ever I posted there was not a verdict. That was all what I persoally felt after researching on net. One of the post some where said that FM will not work so thats what I posted there. I contacted Aver and they said it will work so whom should I believe. Since FM was not important to me so I never put the sase forward. My reviews are my personal thoughts, they cant be used in court of law as a fact. I may be wrong, I may be misinterpreting etc. My reviewing the pduduct just had one intention that if any new buyer wanted to research before buying, atleast he had some approx guideline wich he can further build upon and be careful. This does not mean what I have written there is a fact, its just a wayfinder. Whatever is written there is my experience. I have written that I will not reccomend it not becoz the card it bad (its sold in millions and is a hugely popular card), its just that I got bad technical and sales support. Still I dint sell the card immediately as I though I will research more but never really got time so thought to clear it off, some one might need it.
People have written that despite knowing the drawbacks, I still resold the card. So what should I have done! Make a cocktail & drink it? Do to review sites, all products have pros and cons, they are still sold and resold and the trading continues as its buyers whose decision matters. TE market forum is for off loading extra stuffs thats no more in use. I did the same. I cannot guarantee a information that I am not sure about. Buyer should have used his discration. I clearly told him that I have not tested FM neither I wish to take back the card as its a second hand sale. Now buyer should have taxed his thought process. For me, this was just selling an unused stuff, not conning someone.
The buyer also asked me to check if this card will work with Dell Inspiron 6400 which was his job, not mine. Stil I researched. Now if he a a different OS which does not have MCE, I cant help. I had clearly written It will work in Dell systems coz other systems will not detect the card as mentioned in some sites. What ever I knew, I mentioned there in the trade post.
Also I have never replied to this post as I need time. There has to be someone to type for me, I can type as I am a terminal cancer patient, my hands/fingers are totally worn out and bleed/pus. It pains and I am therefore bed ridden as I cannot move my whole body. If I go according to docs views, I have limited time. Hence members who have posted here saying that Uziel is not posting as he is a conner, has ran away .... God is there to do justice with you. I am not here to con someone in my painful days. I have read all the 10 pages and seen TE members views thinking there were well matured but it seems otherwise. Buyer should have clearly refused to trade if he thought all was not well.
vercetti
Galvanizer
Sorry to hear about your situation. God Bless u.
But I am still surprised and dumbstruck as to why someone with such a severe condition would want to sell something online at such a time when he even has problems typing in a keyboard.
U clearly lied when u said that u were not sure about the FM. You knew very well that the card did not have FM which is quite clear from your reviews of the card.
Moreoevr, when asked for the prod specs, u happily pointed to the wrong prod specs even though u knew that the specs provided in that page was incorrect. That's equivalent to lying.
But I am still surprised and dumbstruck as to why someone with such a severe condition would want to sell something online at such a time when he even has problems typing in a keyboard.
U clearly lied when u said that u were not sure about the FM. You knew very well that the card did not have FM which is quite clear from your reviews of the card.
Moreoevr, when asked for the prod specs, u happily pointed to the wrong prod specs even though u knew that the specs provided in that page was incorrect. That's equivalent to lying.
uziel said:
mayanksahni
Explorer
seshu said:
No need for that mate.
Instead I should thank u since because of u I came across a nice guy names ANKUSH(ankxxs). He's near my home and is a nice chap.
Moreover, if I get cheated from someone then I too would like to get helped from the people here.
So always chill man, and u can pm me anytime if u have any issue here in Delhi. I would try to do my best.
And at the end uziel replied.
Thank GOD.
cheers
@ seshu: Sorry forgot to thank you for the very same reason for getting to know a fellow TE meber personally. never knew somebody from TE lived so near my place.
@Mayank: it was really great meeting you & talking about TE & tech for next 3 hours.
hyeah:Best of Luck fro your exams.:hap2:
@Mayank: it was really great meeting you & talking about TE & tech for next 3 hours.
hyeah:Best of Luck fro your exams.:hap2:uziel said:
You post a review with such good intentions but still mislead the buyer when the time comes to sell it off by giving him a link for a product which is not the same as yours? You knew that the product description on the AVer website is not accurate still you gave it to the buyer anyway. Why didn't you give him the link to your review instead since you posted it online to "help" future buyers anyway?
uziel said:
Of course not. You did the absolutely right thing in finding a gullible buyer, misrepresent the product and cheat him out of his money.
uziel said:
Indeed God will do justice and punish the guilty in his own way. BTW, if you're terminal, don't you realize by now that money is not the do all and end all of everything? Even if you did everything in good faith, if seshu is dissatisfied and keeping in light your own feedback, maybe you should just return his money. If nothing else, you will earn the good wishes and blessings of a fellow human being which is what you REALLY need at this point, not the money.
mayanksahni
Explorer
ankxxs said:@ seshu: Sorry forgot to thank you for the very same reason for getting to know a fellow TE meber personally. never knew somebody from TE lived so near my place.
@Mayank: it was really great meeting you & talking about TE & tech for next 3 hours.
We talked for 3 hrs :O:O.
I was really unaware of the time. :rofl:
Will have a day out together after my exams.
hyeah:
this could be off topic : although I earn a couple of thousands per month
( amount I spent on the product in this deal is a little less than my salary )
I believe in following set of proverbs ( I had also posted it at many web sites )
With Money We Can Buy:
A House But Not A Home
A Clock But Not Time
A Bed But Not Sleep
A Book, But Not Knowledge
A Doctor, But Not Good Health
A Position But Not Respect
Blood But Not Life
sex but not love
( amount I spent on the product in this deal is a little less than my salary )
I believe in following set of proverbs ( I had also posted it at many web sites )
With Money We Can Buy:
A House But Not A Home
A Clock But Not Time
A Bed But Not Sleep
A Book, But Not Knowledge
A Doctor, But Not Good Health
A Position But Not Respect
Blood But Not Life
sex but not love
Well I don't know about about much of legalities & technicalities but I do know that if,a buyer is not satisfied with the product after sales then it is mandatory that seller should take the product back by charging transactional fees from the very same amount. Its up to both the parties, how they can come to a mutual solution.
What i got to know after talking to Uziel is that, he is not at all ready to take product back which is not right in any sense even after so many people against it.
@ Uziel: Please find a viable solution which can help you both, moreover choice of your about not taking would have never came into picture after selling the product. You could have refused to sell the product to Seshu right at the begining & rite now you are bound to take your product back with the option of charging transactional fee if you & Seshu can agree upon it. Now as you have sold your product its your duty to look after the interest of the buyer as buyer has bought the product for his better interest & paid you your mentioned amount in your better interest.
@ Seshu: If you truly believe your case that you have been duped of your money then lease do lodge a legal complaint against Uziel. As it will help in solving your problem much easily.
If I am wrong in posting something here then please correct me.
What i got to know after talking to Uziel is that, he is not at all ready to take product back which is not right in any sense even after so many people against it.
@ Uziel: Please find a viable solution which can help you both, moreover choice of your about not taking would have never came into picture after selling the product. You could have refused to sell the product to Seshu right at the begining & rite now you are bound to take your product back with the option of charging transactional fee if you & Seshu can agree upon it. Now as you have sold your product its your duty to look after the interest of the buyer as buyer has bought the product for his better interest & paid you your mentioned amount in your better interest.
@ Seshu: If you truly believe your case that you have been duped of your money then lease do lodge a legal complaint against Uziel. As it will help in solving your problem much easily.
If I am wrong in posting something here then please correct me.
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