It will take lot of will but like you said we lack that will and waise bhi Hamare country mein --- Baap Bada na bhaiya....Sab se bada Rupaiya.
Lithuania urges people to throw away Chinese phones
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It will take lot of will but like you said we lack that will and waise bhi Hamare country mein --- Baap Bada na bhaiya....Sab se bada Rupaiya.
rdst_1
Skilled
Just try and open a small scale manufacturing business in India and when you will see how much one has to run around getting permissions and paperwork done, will you realize why we are so behind and have little hope. Some states are better than others in this regard but not by much. One does get benefits and faster permissions in SEZs etc, but they are for bigger players only.
I was given one advice by someone running a business and that was to not run after licenses and permissions. Just start your business if you can and then worry about permissions later, but this can't work for everyone and every type of business.
I was given one advice by someone running a business and that was to not run after licenses and permissions. Just start your business if you can and then worry about permissions later, but this can't work for everyone and every type of business.
burntwingzZz
Skilled
they never heard of custom roms ?
Reminded me of this post.
Not sure how authentic it is,
Edit- seems like the site is not very trust worthy, please ignore.
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That's nothing but air. Schemes launched under that have not actually reached the ground. I know because I needed and have applied for. It's a bogus lie. When I hear PM/FM speak, it disgust me how much they lie. It's a curse that I have to look those things up. Ignorance is really a bliss. Has anyone here got any compensation/funding etc for their business under make in india or atma nirbhar? I'm genuinely interested to know. I'm not saying one party is better than the other. But current one could stop lying.
I have import export license and have worked in this field, Most of the Made in India stuff is actually Made in China, importers change the label. It's that simple. These days you can tell the chinese manufacturer to print 'made in india' in their chinese factory. Except for a few sectors the genuine 'Made in India' products have shit quality. You don't see them online or in cities because traders aren't crazy to stock them. We can't beat china in manufacturing. We neither have talent nor resources and govt isn't even willing. Lookup how many patents US/China/India are filing per year. Indian talent enrich western companies. Small chinese politicians like city mayor bend over backwards to attract chinese talent back in the country. They go to western universities and ask chinese student to build their startups in their city in exchange of free money, land, electricity.
The first 'Make in India' event (watch this video), there was a robot made by the company of ex-microsoft, current party chamcha and quora hero Balaji Viswanathan. This absolute piece of junk which is nothing but a tablet glued to a plastic box which is ridden on RC wheels. School projects are better than this. And as per param Bharat bhakt Balaji himself, despite all extreme efforts, his company couldn't find manufacturer in India. To manufacture his junky and malfunctioning robots, his company had to setup base in Shenzhen. You get more functional sex-dolls on aliexpress and I'm not even joking. This is the bottom line for 'Make in India'. That lion logo you see under 'Make in India' logo represents exactly that. Lions (found in only one state in India) are weak and substandard version of cats compared to our national cat. Lions don't hunt or raise cubs. Everything is done by lioness. Lion like a drunkard husband is good at one thing and one thing only, that's taking credit. There couldn't have been better suited logo for 'Make in India'.
You are seeing more foreign investment in India these days only because India is tightening the borders like how communists did it in 1960s. And yeah, you see some chinese companies like foxconn moving some operations to India because labour is cheap here compared to mainland china. India is becoming china to chinese companies.
Quality of chinese products is perceived to be low because that's what the trader ordered from the china. For china, quality is available on order. They manufacture mercedes-benz and tesla if you are willing to pay more. Before 'Made in China' phenomenon, the 'Made in Korea' considered cheap. Before them 'Made in Japanese' were cheap. But it all really started with 'Made in Germany' which was synonym with low cheap quality products back in early 20th century. Look how tables have turned.
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That is precisely what has been misused by NSA. I have seen Citizenfour, read Permanent Record and also would recommend watching 9/11 and the War on Terror which covers the entire sequence of events.
US was caught off-guard by not having the intelligence to prevent 9/11 and the Patriot Act was pushed through with a very broad and vague overview to gather any data possible.
However, all requests under section 215 of the Patriot Act has to be disclosed.
It also doesn't provide access to encrypted data for which the company does not have any keys. In short, there is still a process and it has also become more stringent since Snowden's revelations on NSA spying.
Privacy - Government Information Requests
Law enforcement plays a critical role in keeping you safe. Here’s what we’re commonly asked for and how we respond.
www.apple.com
You can read below that even with the new privacy laws in China, the government has all-pervasive unencrypted access to data from all Chinese companies. The situation with China is magnitudes worse.
New Chinese law tightens control over company data on users
China is tightening control over data gathered by companies about the public under a law approved by its ceremonial legislature.
apnews.com
Huawei no longer allows bootloader unlocking. Mi has made it tough and you can still install custom ROMs. However, super large majority of users will never do that. At the end of the day, you are buying a device to get things done and beyond a certain age, the novelty of flashing and modifying stuff wears off in comparison to the things you have to do to survive.
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Marcus Fenix
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Has India become China’s colony? Seems like, going by what we import and what we export
Figures between 2014-15 and 2019-20 show that export of low-value raw materials & import of high-value manufactured goods characterised India's trade with China.
theprint.in
Its not good to generalise thing in this manner, in last 5-6 years our purchasing power are diminished at great extent.
So what common people do ? if they need a phone that mean they need a phone - over 90% people just want a phone.
And if someone is taking benefit form the ****ery of this anti-people govt we cant blame the company/country.
People don't have a choice at this stage.
True, hey exactly know what they are doing. their political leader are not illiterate / 8th class, but majority of them holds engineering degree. Entire chines govt is run like a corporate company where everybody had to "perform" - else they face severe punishment.
do you think modi govt has any plan? they fired all educated people from the system, who were actually giving correct advice.
The RBI head itself is finance/economics illiterate.
This govt has only one plan -- how to win election, and they don't even know what to do once they won the election.
Sorry sire, it seems you not much aware of the actual reality or are living under the bubble of braiwashin indian media. We "had" a chance, a great one. now we don't have any for another 2-3 decade.
Current govt had reversed whatever good economics measure were taken by previous govt from Narasimha Rao to Manmohan Singh.
the damage whts done to Indian economy, FMCG and manufacturing sector is irreversible.
Regardless the propaganda run in media - this govt allowing Chinese to flourish in the country in every sector, including in our banking system. Modi sold Indian soul to china just for a cup of tea.
Check out the number of cell phone manufacturer we had before 2014 and their origins.
We let xiaomi build factory in India labelling them "Indian phone" doesn't mean it will work for the benefit of our country, India mere proving cheap labour to china and collecting tax form the company -- all profits are going to china.
same happening to our Automobile sector - where no one paying attention.
China owns more then 41% stake in our auto industry. our home companies are deliberately killed to give Chinese company leverage.
Ford leaving India is no coincidence, neither Anand Mahindra is a roadside beggar who was shouting for help from this govt.
Tata used to be the bus provider earlier but now its all Volvo owned by Geely Holding.
Big companies like BYD Ltd, Changan Automobile, Foton Motor, Shanghai Automotive ( MG motors) were given free hand to snatch the remaining market from or local player.
We already know tata is considered enemy , but top people from maruti was hired by Morris Garages some time back, and it didn't even came in news.
same goes for electronics manufacturing, Owr companies like Dixon are neglected, and preference were given to foxconn, wistron...
Remember how PUBG corporation all of sudden becomes "indian" the moment they donated 1.5cr to PM cares funds ? which is just a legalised bribing system of RSS/BJP.
PM CARES Fund not a fund of Government of India: Delhi High Court told
'PM-CARES Not a Fund of Government of India': Union Govt tells Delhi HC
The government's claim comes despite the fact that the Prime Minister and several Union ministers are trustees of the fund.
ever heard of opindia ? - that site is its mother. how you guys even discover these sites ?
now while are you at that site please complete the full-lifecycle,
1. read his https://orangenews9.com/good-things-about-manusmriti/
2. Go buy a copy on Indian constitution and burn it in middle of road & make a video out of it.
3. Start treating females of you home like "object"
4. BONUS: find a photo of mahatma Gandhi and paint his face black, frame it & stick in your room.
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With folks splurging billions on H/W and Apples
!sauravghosh
Adept
Chinese products have always been low-end stuffs. Even long before the smartphone era there were many chinese companies making feature phones. Remember companies like FLY or BIRD? There were many people who bought those garbage over Samsung or Nokia or Sony just because they had this or that flashy/gimmicky feature. Our profound love for garbage and cheap mindset/standard have astonished me to a point where I stopped caring long ago.
I'm perfectly happy with my Chinese audio products.
China does make very high end product often better than German/ US based companies. And those Chinese products are certainly not cheap.
And I will buy only what I can afford....really don't understand how can a guy earning only 2L-3L INR in a month can afford an iPhone Pro Max/ Samsung Fold every year in India. These people are spending more than 50 percent of their monthly income on a freaking phone!!
China does make very high end product often better than German/ US based companies. And those Chinese products are certainly not cheap.
And I will buy only what I can afford....really don't understand how can a guy earning only 2L-3L INR in a month can afford an iPhone Pro Max/ Samsung Fold every year in India. These people are spending more than 50 percent of their monthly income on a freaking phone!!
That lion logo you see under 'Make in India' logo represents exactly that. Lions (found in only one state in India) are weak and substandard version of cats compared to our national cat. Lions don't hunt or raise cubs. Everything is done by lioness. Lion like a drunkard husband is good at one thing and one thing only, that's taking credit. There couldn't have been better suited logo for 'Make in India'.
Have been laughing alone--ever since I read this.
It is hilarious these days seeing questions on "Amazon". Is this product made in India. As if the truth will come out.
Kaleen Bhaiya
Skilled
It is called Chee-Public TV for a reason..Well, a better feeling than watching Republic (Bharat) TV if nothing else
they followed a long term strategy man, they were in-fact working on it since mid 80s.
first they simply tried to imitate and came up with a cheap imitation of products - just to taste the water, and establish those supply chain/ trade routes in that process.
But gradually they build up their infrastructures, trained people, done lots of research. I was reading in some essays that they invest the maximum in researches at university level than any other country in the world. some recent news about it - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/01/chinas-spending-on-rd-hits-a-record-378-billion.html
In past decade they stepped-up their game so high and made japan redundant in present days. we hardly see any made in japan,things anymore.
with recent news, we seen how their govt, kind of punished internet companies, like tencent, alibaba -- this is giving very very strong indication that their primary focus is in real tangible things and not much in "digital" .... which will phased out at some point in future. They they anyways buyout the digital company came up with new innovation if they want.
Apart from manufacturing they are focusing big-time in medicines, space research and agriculture... in 2021 they are planning for 2050. unlike some country who are not able to see beyond 2024.
and the irony - probably 90% of them are commenting using a chines phone.
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Kaleen Bhaiya
Skilled
Fun fact- A member here was supposed to burn his phone in the toilet after 10pm or so last year. He had a dedicated thread in the General Section and was brutally trolled!!
Does anyone remember?
Does anyone remember?
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SpaceScraper
Disciple
Guys just use a Pixel phone with calyxos installed. Its a good first step towards degoogling and taking more control over your phone. Especially if you still somewhat rely on google apps and stuff
The way our system works. It will never allow us to see beyond 5 years . Our entire political system lacks vision for this country and we just making slow natural progress. No use blaming one party over the other. Congress had ruled over 60 years and they too screwed up with any bold and clear vision for this country.
India would have become Nuclear power had Nehru given a go ahead to Homi Baba . He was ready and we might have had our bomb before the Chinese.
Indian Space Programme has been compromised many times . We would have leaped way forward in our space programme had the Government trusted our scientist vision and provided them security . Vikram Sarabai and Nambi Narayan cases are a proof of how they were treated.
General Thimmayya had been warning Nehru almost a decade before Indo-China war but Nehru did not take his own General words seriously .
Our nation has lacked a visionary bold leader since our independence. Only few have ever stand out - Vallabhbhai Patel, Lal Bahadur Shastri and Atal Bihari Vajpayee .
China like you said plans way ahead and can execute that plan accordingly because their people have no say unlike ours where every section of people will put their own interest forward and force the hand of the government ..so with all the criticism against our political parties fact is we Indians are part of the problem too.
Chinese leaders have strong will because their people have sacrificed their basic freedom for it and put their trust in their leaders to take them forward. Fortunately for them they have right people at the top.
However all said it is is not like Chinese will have smooth ride now . The world is gearing up against them with AUKUS, QUAD, Japan is building an army, Taiwan is standing up as much as it can afford without much support.
China has essentially prospered because of Deng Xiaoping and his brand of capitalist communism.
The idea was always to create a global dependency and then exploit it like some of his quotes state.
He of course also knew where it would lead to which is now being ignored by the CCP.
Within China, people who have experienced a huge improvement in quality of life since the 90s when China was not much different from India, have taken the loss of freedom as a fair price to pay for prosperity.
As for the world, the dependency is taking precedence over the need to challenge China, though at least we now have the Quad and other South East Asian alliances trying to stand up to China.
Unfortunately, with the Indian government avoiding any mention of China publicly and with the Indian public at large being agnostic about flow of wealth from India to China, it will be very hard to challenge China where it hurts anytime soon.
The idea was always to create a global dependency and then exploit it like some of his quotes state.
He of course also knew where it would lead to which is now being ignored by the CCP.
Within China, people who have experienced a huge improvement in quality of life since the 90s when China was not much different from India, have taken the loss of freedom as a fair price to pay for prosperity.
As for the world, the dependency is taking precedence over the need to challenge China, though at least we now have the Quad and other South East Asian alliances trying to stand up to China.
Unfortunately, with the Indian government avoiding any mention of China publicly and with the Indian public at large being agnostic about flow of wealth from India to China, it will be very hard to challenge China where it hurts anytime soon.
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