Netflix crackdown is coming

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asingh said:
How is Netflix detecting sharing.
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It's easy. Detect if the account is logged into from different IP addresses + locations simultaneously + too many different devices (combination of device fingerprint).
They're OK if you share within the same house but not with different houses even if it's your family.

BTW not implemented in India yet.
 
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enthusiast29 said:
It's easy. Detect if the account is logged into from different IP addresses + locations simultaneously + too many different devices (combination of device fingerprint).
They're OK if you share within the same house but not with different houses even if it's your family.

BTW not implemented in India yet.
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I got the mail for account migration which is the forerunner for crackdown. But I am logged in two devices same IP.
 
I have 3 tvs at home and I have practically all major subscriptions, a couple wholly owned and all other shared like NF, DH, voot, SLiv, zee5 etc.. We are all pretty satisfied as whatever we like is available on one or the other.
On the other hand...
I am pretty fine downloading my stuff as well... as before, from various platforms be it what I need or what kids need.
I will not be continuing anything if I am forced to own it exclusively without sharing permissions..

Plenty of storage drives and decent connection to make use of can download easily that too from secured sources...
 
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^^^ Once this thing hit India, All Netflix Love are Done. Nobody share their Home Network with complete stranger Online.

My question if the Owner of the account use the every ‘Shared Profile’ once in a month to watch something, Like a Movie or One Episode - Will it do then ?
 
dissel said:
^^^ Once this thing hit India, All Netflix Love are Done. Nobody share their Home Network with complete stranger Online.

My question if the Owner of the account use the every ‘Shared Profile’ once in a month to watch something, Like a Movie or One Episode - Will it do then ?
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The check is not based on profiles only. It's per device location/IP.

Also if I'm not wrong it can be possible to have a small device like raspberry pi run tailscale as exit node and only allow others to connect to it once or twice a month (whatever is the requirement) for a brief period of time.
In that case you won't need to connect any of your devices to tailscale as a node because you will already be on the network (assuming you are living in primary location) and hence your devices will not be compromised.

I mean we gotta compromise a bit to save money unless the additional cost is real cheap.
 
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Say If a Shared Profile person only watched Netflix on a TV Box - He never used any mobile or tablet, How Netflix verification will work in this situation?
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It simply works based on your public IP and device identifier as of now as not all devices come with GPS.

PS: I just checked https://www.netflix.com/manageaccountaccess and I know Netflix used to show location and IP details of each device but not now. They've removed that probably to hide those details from users who want to exploit this flaw. In any case this will now be well known but only tech-savvy users will be able to exploit this if it's possible.
 
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If the only two things they check are device identifier and public IP, then what will happen in connection with CGNAT and dynamic public IP?
 
john1911 said:
If the only two things they check are device identifier and public IP, then what will happen in connection with CGNAT and dynamic public IP?
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IP doesn't need to be the same always bro. Dynamic IP is an age-old thing everyone knows about and CGNAT has nothing to do with any of it.
The location of the IP needs to be same as one of the primary device.

Say your public IP shows location as Delhi then all connected devices must have an IP address in Delhi at least once a month. Ideally they can have the same IP once a month as the primary device.

Now this can easily be patched by Netflix by requesting precise location data (using gps) on devices like mobiles and tablets. Other devices such as TVs and computers may not have such strict restrictions since they lack GPS.
 
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I mean we gotta compromise a bit to save money unless the additional cost is real cheap.
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This is very niche thing that less than 1% of Indian users will probably be capable of doing. I am in IT, surrounded by people who work in IT, and most of them have never heard of Tailscale or Wireguard.

Of those who understand and are capable, most would not be willing to put in the effort. For instance, me.

I have been using Tailscale to create a VPN using a VPS I have rented in Europe. Half the time it does not connect. When it does, most of the time it's incredibly slow. If I had to go through all this for Netflix, I'd just cancel.

So if it comes to India, people who can afford will buy subscription, those who can't (or don't want to spend that much) will cancel.
 
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IP doesn't need to be the same always bro. Dynamic IP is an age-old thing everyone knows about and CGNAT has nothing to do with any of it.
The location of the IP needs to be same as one of the primary device.

Say your public IP shows location as Delhi then all connected devices must have an IP address in Delhi at least once a month. Ideally they can have the same IP once a month as the primary device.

Now this can easily be patched by Netflix by requesting precise location data (using gps) on devices like mobiles and tablets. Other devices such as TVs and computers may not have such strict restrictions since they lack GPS.
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I meant to ask that sometime my location based on my IP shows 50-100kms away from my home, and it keeps hopping. How accurate is the location determination based on IP address?

Moreover, many people would be sharing the same public IP and they might be having different NetFlix accounts, can that create any problem?
 
Netflix has gotten extremely picky and unreliable. Instead of welcoming user with open arms, there's a red tape everywhere. Oh, oh, you need netflix certified TV and the remote control has to be certified by the Netflix too. Your mobile needs to be certified otherwise it won't work in HD and won't cast. About 80% devices in the market can't run Netflix even though they are capable enough. You might be having 4090TI in your computer but Netflix thinks your system isn't worthy and won't run in HD in chrome (Did anyone know that?) The windows netflix app has degraded audio quality making it useless. Red tape everywhere. I'm paying for the f'ing subscription why won't it let me watch peacefully?

There are now thousands and thousands of website where you can watch any movie or series with a click of button. No need to download anything, no need to get certified, no subscription. No AI learning your watching habits and making a behavioral model.

Need another Thop. And I'm willing to pay for it. Need something that just works.
 
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john1911 said:
I meant to ask that sometime my location based on my IP shows 50-100kms away from my home, and it keeps hopping. How accurate is the location determination based on IP address?

Moreover, many people would be sharing the same public IP and they might be having different NetFlix accounts, can that create any problem?
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It's yet to be seen how exactly it'll work and what limitations it may have. It's not in India yet.

Different netflix accounts using same public IP is not an issue. That's what they are actually after, they want people to pay for netflix rather than sharing credentials.
 
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