Kaching999
Forerunner
Kaching999
Forerunner
It was an in package sealed rma unit with the packaging still intact on the gpu. Used one is selling for 41k
check this sale thread: https://techenclave.com/threads/logitech-g213.224646/
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Rajk2
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That's said local buyer's only..
Waited so long for these yet still not available..
B850 motherboards.
Ryzen 5 9600.
And now AMD 9070 XT.
I got this final quote from local store.
Ryzen 5 7600 - 17,500
MSI B650M gaming wifi - 10200
Cooler master hyper 212 spectrum - 1750
Gskil flare x5 2x16gb 6000mhz CL30 - 9500
MSI A750BN - 5500
Ant eSports 611 Air - 4500
MSI G274QPF monitor - 19500
I'm also thinking of getting LG 24GS60f B 1080p, it's 10,500rs. And save money for RTX 5070 or 9070 XT. Run it for 1 year or so on 1080p and then later upgrade to 2k monitor. What do u think?
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Kaching999
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B850 boards are somewhat worse than b650 just buy a decent b650 board not many people are actually buying b850 boards in us where they are available.
I would suggest going with a better psu such as maybe a A750GL or a Deepcool pn750m or a corsair rme750 gen 5 they are about 2-3k more but considering that a bad psu can literally fry your 50k graphic card I would not risk it.
I would also suggest getting a better case for better airflow since you plan on using a air cooler like this lian li 215 it is white but 3k cheaper than the black one and has great performance and thermals and is also much better to build in. You could also go for a deepcool matrexx 50 mesh as it comes with 4 PWM fans which are better as you can set the fan curve and also control the speed.
Sure if you are ok with that and newer 2k monitors might arrive by that time too.
When the 9070xt arrives and if it is cheaper than 60k you can and should definitely go for it but DON'T BUY A 5070 it is a really bad value at 60k that is even if you can get it at that price there has been rumours which I believe have some truth to them that there is going to be a shortage of them at launch which will 100% increase the price and it will probably go for over 65k and maybe even over 70k, I would suggest to buy an older GPU now and wait for the 9070 XT to launch then sell that one and the 9070 or alternatively you can just buy a used 4070 super/Ti as it has the same performance as a 5070 excluding the 4x frame gen and you will probably be able get one under warranty for as low as 38-40k. JUST DON'T BUY THE 5070 (especially over msrp)
Rajk2
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That PCIe 5 might increase the cost of the board i guess , but no idea if the performance gain from pcie 5 is worth it or not. Isn't MSI b650m gaming wifi good for processor and GPU?
MSI A750BN has pci5 or ATX 3 standard and it's 2k cheaper than A750GL coz it's bronze.. shouldn't it be enough? Recent video of paulshardware suggested this psu for upcoming 5070 or 9070 XT GPUs..
So I should avoid Ant eSports completely and stick with deepcool.. I'll check Matrexx 50 or 55 v3 that have suggested earlier..
That 12GB on 5070 is what makes me think going towards 9070 series.
2nd hand 4070 super still selling for 50k locally.
Sapphire pulse RX 7800 XT new one is 45k.
Kaching999
Forerunner
it is not about the performance gain but the stability and the ability to handle spikes and a psu in a pc build is a long time investment especially in a mid-high end build and it lasts for about 7-10 years so there is also the future proofing that comes along with it and seeing that graphic cards are requiring more and more power each gen a good psu with can handle spikes is a much needed investment.
I mean yeahhhh...... be sure to check out the lian li as well it is really good for 5.5k
it has pretty much been confirmer that it is going to have 16gb
I was talking about more like a 6700xt/6750xt for about 18k used, buying anything last gen new without a 25-30% reduction on the price is just not worth it.
Rajk2
Contributor
Then will go with MSI A750GL PSU..
I did not find any 67 series GPU.. so what's the max price I should put for 7800 XT, in case price drop happens? If not then I had no choice but to wait for new GPU..
MSI B650M gaming wifi good mobo right for newer gpu?
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1. PCIe Gen 5 is a waste of money, at this stage. Fewer lanes in most motherboards (except the ludicrously expensive ones), and pricey with no real advantages except in intense workloads, a good Gen 4 drive (heck even Gen 3) will be more than adequate for gaming unless you like looking at high numbers for the jollies. For GPUs, Not even 4.0 is fully saturated, forget about Gen 5. It's not worth it, for the next few years.
2. Refer to this list when choosing a PSU - https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
3. Avoid ANYTHING from Ant/Zebronics/Ice Master. Just poorly built garbage. Spend a bit more, but sustain quality.
Kaching999
Forerunner
It was about the atx 3.1 and pcie 5 psu not storage
that list isn't updated that regularly and you will hard pressed to find many new and budget psu options there so reviews from hw busters and other outlets are a better way to judge imo
used or new? cause used are available here
ATX 3.1 IMO won't matter much unless going for a high-end GPU that will benefit from the 12v2x6 standard, specifically Nvidia (definitely not for a 70-class card). If he's looking at AMD, it won't matter (unless they also adopt the same connector), which the 9070/XT won't. In reality, gaming PCs aren't a long-term investment. Upgrades are needed sooner than we care for and will kick the bucket in performance. Moore's Law really messes with you.
That list is recent enough that you can get decently-priced tier-B units. Agree with HW Busters.
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Kaching999
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It is not just about the 12v connectors it also ensures the ability of the psu to handle spikes in power the atx 3.0 and 3.1 standard was made for that specific reason not for just nvidia cards and 600 watt 4090s.
this is just not true sure you upgrade some components more frequently than others but mostly you don't see major upgrades for at least 2-3 years and for components like PSUs and GPUs which can easily last you 5 years without any problems it is a long term investment, I mean the fact that a 4-5 year old mid range gpu like a 3070 or a 3070ti can still run almost all games at 1440p high is the testament that you don't need to upgrade every other generation that is if you are buying at least mid range. You don't need the 4k path tracing ultra giga pro max graphics to enjoy a game even medium graphics on most modern games look pretty decent, plus newer technologies like ray tracing have their own problems like noise and a severe performance penalty.
It is dead, when was the last time you saw a doubling of the performance(I know it talks about transistors but at that time that equated to performance) in two year, also moore's law targets hardware not gaming requirements which are usually inflated due to poor optimization by the devs as most of them heavily rely on upscaling these days.
Most components ( barring 13th/14th Gen) are pretty well optimized in terms of power efficiency, and detrimental PSU spikes are rare now, even with the ATX 2.5X standard. Even the wide-spread transient spikes that plagued the 30 series (3080 and higher) were fixed, soon enough. The definite exception is a crummy power source with no surge protection/UPS.
Either way, I'm a huge advocate for a quality PSU, because that's literally THE most important component for any PC. OP should definitely look at better options.
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Kaching999
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it is always better to not take chances and considering the cost differential between a bronze and a gold psu+the newer standard it will be better to not live on the edge and have the peace of mind. Plus who knows which manufacturer released a buggy bios or update which causes a blunder and all you are left with is a paperweight all because of the 2.5k you saved by buying a cheaper part.
I agree, spend a bit more = peace of mind, longevity + happy components.