New Rig - Maximum Budget 60K (Rendering, 3D, Motion Graphics & VFX)

Hades. said:
Time for some calculation... 8.98 * 76% = 6.8248

6.8 is the score which i7 2600k scores in Cinebench benchmark... So i stand corrected its just 24% slower than i7 980
In other words, i7 980 is (8.98-6.8)/6.8 = 32% faster. 32% is a massive improvement. Whether it can fit in the budget is the question.
 
In other words, i7 980 is (8.98-6.8)/6.8 = 32% faster. 32% is a massive improvement. Whether it can fit in the budget is the question.

Your calculation is wrong...

100 * 5% = 5

8.98 * 76% = 6.8

Here is a percentage calculator for you... use it to check whoz right : Percentage Calculator

Put 8.92 in one box and 6.82 in another
 
Hades. said:
Your calculation is wrong...

100 * 5% = 5

8.98 * 76% = 6.8

Here is a percentage calculator for you use it to check whoz right : Percentage Calculator

Put 8.92 in one box and 6.82 in another

I am saying i7 980 is 32% faster than i7 2600.

You are saying i7 2600 is 24% slower than i7 980.

It's the same thing told in different ways!
 
I am saying i7 980 is 32% faster than i7 2600.

You are saying i7 2600 is 24% slower than i7 980.

Nope... If 980x performs 32% faster than 2600k then the 2600k should perform 32% slower... But i7 2600k is not 32 percent slower its just 24% slower

Here is an image for you

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Hades. said:
Nope... If 980x performs 32% faster than 2600k then the 2600k should perform 32% slower... But i7 2600k is not 32 percent slower its just 24% slower

That makes no sense to me. Let me say it again.

i7 980 is a 32% increase over i7 2600.
Also, i7 2600 is a 24% reduction over i7 980.

Here's proof from your very own calculator:

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I hope I don't have to discuss Mathematics on TE after this!
 
You are still not getting it... i7 2600k scores 6.82 points which means it is scoring 76% of i7 980x score of 8.98... So it is just 24% slower than 980x...
 
Hades. said:
You are still not getting it... If i7 2600k scores 6.82 points then it is scoring 76% of i7 980x score of 8.98... So it is just 24% slower than 980x...

I completely agree with you.

2600 is 24% slower wrt 980X, but the 980X is 32% faster wrt 2600. Simple.

Just like 2600 is 50% cheaper than 980X but 980X is 100% more expensive than 2600.
 
You believe that i7 980X is 32% faster than 2600k

and i would believe that i 7 2600k is 24% slower than 980X and 980x is 24% better than 2600k...

This is my last post in this thread...
 
It's quite simple:

i7 980X - 8.98

i7 2600 - 6.8

Improvement in i7 980X over i7 2600 is absolute terms 8.98 - 6.8 = 2.18 points.

i7 2600 is 6.8 points, so the improvement over 2600 is 2.18/6.8 = 0.32.

Hence, 980X is 32% faster than 2600.

But if you start with the 980X, you have 8.98 points. So, this time there's a reduction and it is 2.18 points.

980X is 8.98 points, so the reduction is 2.18/8.98 = 0.24.

Hence, i7 2600 is 24% slower than 980X.

Simple and straightforward. Hope that clarifies.
 
Ok guys please don't fight. I don't want people to fight over my CPU,. i also inquired from a hardware guy who works in a VFX studio and he told me that i should go for i7-970 or 980 because of my need, secondly 16GB Ram would be enough for me to get the work done. Just advise a decent not so much expensive motherboard and grafix card.

As mainly i want to spend it on RAM & Processor.It would be great if you can suggest both of these within 20K.

Cheers.
 
Yes I was going to ask you to ask your colleagues and it seems 970 really is best cpu for you. Board Asus sabertooth is 11k. 2 8gb kits ( 2 x 4gb sticks) will set you back 7k and you can add another 8gb in the future should you feel the need ( its just another 3.5k) you should assemble with 16gb and check to see if all 16gb is getting used and then take a call if you want to get another 8gb.

So its looking like

i7 970 35k
16gb gskill 7k
Asus Sabertooth 11k
Corsair TX650 6k

Thats 59K there CM Gladiator 600 (Chassis) is 4k and you need a HDD 2TB thats another 4k and Video card for display MSI 5450 is 2.5k (or anything along those lines for 2k~)
 
I think he is better off with 2600K instead of 970X. The saved money can be used to buy GTX 560 which i believe will help in speed up rendering process. Have a look here [click on Core i7 2600]

3D Studio Max 2010 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

Cinema 4D R11 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

After Effects CS4 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

In 3D Studio max 2010 - 970X is ~ 24% faster
Cinema 4D - ~ 15%
After Effects CS4 - Tie
 
Yes I was going to ask you to ask your colleagues and it seems 970 really is best cpu for you. Board Asus sabertooth is 11k. 2 8gb kits ( 2 x 4gb sticks) will set you back 7k and you can add another 8gb in the future should you feel the need ( its just another 3.5k) you should assemble with 16gb and check to see if all 16gb is getting used and then take a call if you want to get another 8gb.

So its looking like

i7 970 35k
16gb gskill 7k
Asus Sabertooth 11k
Corsair TX650 6k

Thats 59K there CM Gladiator 600 (Chassis) is 4k and you need a HDD 2TB thats another 4k and Video card for display MSI 5450 is 2.5k (or anything along those lines for 2k~)

I am not so much of a person who has alot of hardware knowledge, but i would like to ask if motherboard and grafix card play a very vital role in giving the adequate performance of the CPU ? As you mentioned Gskill RAM is it better than Kingston ? As its a little expensive than Kingston. For the Grafix card i was thinking of going for ATI or Geforce, please suggest something out of it.
I think he is better off with 2600K instead of 970X. The saved money can be used to buy GTX 560 which i believe will help in speed up rendering process. Have a look here [click on Core i7 2600]

3D Studio Max 2010 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

Cinema 4D R11 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

After Effects CS4 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

In 3D Studio max 2010 - 970X is ~ 24% faster
Cinema 4D - ~ 15%
After Effects CS4 - Tie

Hi Muzux 2 the links which you posted are in french and one of the above link is not working. Can you please re-post it in english ? Also as there is so much of word is going on between i7-970 & i7-2600K, i am pretty much getting confused now as to which one to choose :(
 
muzux2 said:
I think he is better off with 2600K instead of 970X. The saved money can be used to buy GTX 560 which i believe will help in speed up rendering process. Have a look here [click on Core i7 2600]

3D Studio Max 2010 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

Cinema 4D R11 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

After Effects CS4 - Comparatif gant : 185 processeurs Intel et AMD ! - HardWare.fr

In 3D Studio max 2010 - 970X is ~ 24% faster

Cinema 4D - ~ 15%

After Effects CS4 - Tie

Muzux... I tried to make him understand that 2600k would be good for his usage but he thinks that his hardware guy knows better than US...
 
rebolt said:
Hi Muzux 2 the links which you posted are in french and one of the above link is not working. Can you please re-post it in english ? Also as there is so much of word is going on between i7-970 & i7-2600K, i am pretty much getting confused now as to which one to choose :(

Of course, here are the translated ones..

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For Rendering/Motion graphics/3D, you need a powerful CPU (Quad Core) along with a graphics card (Professional workstation card would be better) and atleast 16GB RAM to start with. It is not a wise decision to skimp the graphics card and opt for Core i7 970 ~ 40k.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. So finally i made up my mind to go with i7-2600K. Also i have some choices to make in grafix card and hard disk, so let me know which one should i go for.

Intel 2nd Generation Core i7 2600K 3.40G Processor - (15K)
Asus P8H67-V Motherboard - (8.5K)
Nvidia QuadroFX 580 512MB / 480 / Geforce GTS 450 - (10K / 6.5K / 6.5K)
Corsair 16 GB DDR3 1600Mhz HeatSink - (8K)
WD 2 TB Hard Disk Caviar Black 64MB Cache 7200 RPM - (7.5K)
Sony SATA DVD-RW - (1K)
Corsair TX650 SMPS - (5.5K)
Cooler Master CPU Fan V6 GT - (4.5K)
Cooler Master Chasis CM 690 II Advance - (4.5K)


I have been to nehru place for the prices. They mentioned that WD HD Caviar Black Edition is the new drive which is faster than the normal one's, so is it true ? Did anybody used it ? Also from the above given grafix cards which one would be better to choose from ?
 
Yes black edition is faster but maybe for you velociraptor is a good idea Theitdepot - Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 3.5 SATA Desktop Hard Drive (WD3000HLFS)

Again you have to ask your collegues if there is lot of disk activity during you work. If there is its the best choice for you. Go with the 580 its not that much more should be well worth it the 4xx will be hotter I think. Get a TX750 instead its rs500-800 more I think you need it for more stable OC .
 
Zloyd said:
Yes black edition is faster but maybe for you velociraptor is a good idea Theitdepot - Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 3.5 SATA Desktop Hard Drive (WD3000HLFS)

Again you have to ask your collegues if there is lot of disk activity during you work. If there is its the best choice for you. Go with the 580 its not that much more should be well worth it the 4xx will be hotter I think. Get a TX750 instead its rs500-800 more I think you need it for more stable OC .

I just checked the price, it will be too much if i go for it as i need minimum 2TB of space. I asked many people and they mentioned the entry level products of QuadroFX won't make much of a difference, its better to go with the Geforce GTS450.

Also isn't Corsair TX650 will be enough ? One more thing i need to ask, do i have to change my UPS to take up all the load of this new machine ? As currently i have APC650 Watt. isn't it enough to take up all the load along with the monitor ?
 
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