Nvidia 4000 series cards

burntwingzZz said:
3060ti was a sensible card and to some extent is still a sensible card and in second hand market at 20-23 k range a superb card for 1080p and 1440p
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Don't know. I am in market for a card for my streaming pc. for gaming I might get a 7900XTX and put 6800XT in streaming pc or buy something cheap and put it in streaming pc and keep 6800XT in gaming pc. Market is so fKed up and the gaming industry is not trying that hard to optimize games :/ kinda of a wired situation here ...
 
princeoo7 said:
Don't know. I am in market for a card for my streaming pc. for gaming I might get a 7900XTX and put 6800XT in streaming pc or buy something cheap and put it in streaming pc and keep 6800XT in gaming pc. Market is so fKed up and the gaming industry is not trying that hard to optimize games :/ kinda of a wired situation here ...
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just pickup a used 1080ti it would act as decent backup card + physx and streaming and i hope people will be able to sell you under 10k
 

This is THE BEST 4080 Review! :tearsofjoy:


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And this just makes me sad even sadder part is people who appreciate this and buy the product regardless which sends the message to the company that "It's OK to do this."
 
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enthusiast29 said:
And this just makes me sad even sadder part is people who appreciate this and buy the product regardless which sends the message to the company that "It's OK to do this."
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When NV can blame their customers for melting connectors and still get away with it regardless of the fact that it was a design disaster, then potential buyers will still be okay with any move the company makes.
 
retrophiliac said:
When NV can blame their customers for melting connectors and still get away with it regardless of the fact that it was a design disaster, then potential buyers will still be okay with any move the company makes.
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It was actually customer's fault 3/4 times. Already proven by Steve (Gamers Nexus). Granted that the design could be better like make one of the sense pins shorter so it doesn't make a contact unless connector is shoved in properly and latched. Either way, I know people who are scared of using any kind of force with computer components, people who are scared to push hard on the RAM to make it sit properly, and believe it or not there are majority of them. Also the failure rate was 0.04% which was very minor and can be co-related with the fact that it's mostly user-error and not a design defect.
 
enthusiast29 said:
It was actually customer's fault 3/4 times. Already proven by Steve (Gamers Nexus). Granted that the design could be better like make one of the sense pins shorter so it doesn't make a contact unless connector is shoved in properly and latched. Either way, I know people who are scared of using any kind of force with computer components, people who are scared to push hard on the RAM to make it sit properly, and believe it or not there are majority of them. Also the failure rate was 0.04% which was very minor and can be co-related with the fact that it's mostly user-error and not a design defect.
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Fair, but why create something that makes the user uncomfortable in the first place? At least RAM makes a click when properly latched but there is no locking mechanism for that connector. Few would want to put their heads inside their PC cases and look closely for that 0.5mm gap left between the socket and that lousy connector.
 
retrophiliac said:
Fair, but why create something that makes the user uncomfortable in the first place? At least RAM makes a click when properly latched but there is no locking mechanism for that connector. Few would want to put their heads inside their PC cases and look closely for that 0.5mm gap left between the socket and that lousy connector.
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The 12VHPWR connector is an outcome of PCIE Sig group in which Nvidia, AMD, Intel all have given their inputs. So it is not nvidia's creation alone. As for the solution for this connector which results in higher percentage of user errors it should come from the above group
 
buBleZ said:
The 12VHPWR connector is an outcome of PCIE Sig group in which Nvidia, AMD, Intel all have given their inputs. So it is not nvidia's creation alone. As for the solution for this connector which results in higher percentage of user errors it should come from the above group
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True, but it's mostly NV's fault here due to the poor build quality of their bundled 12VHPWR connector.

The horror has a face – NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point
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Okay, as enthusiast29 mentions and it's clear from the images of the above post, the PCIe 8 pin connectors from the PSU have melted (very badly)
 
GamersNexus's and Nvidia's own study has shown that it is mostly due to user error i.e. not plugging the adapter all the way in the graphics card power input.
 
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