Nvidia GeForce RTX 2000 series Founders Editions graphics cards

Yep, it's a massive fail when you take price/perf into consideration. 2080 is basically a 1080Ti while being more expensive.
Like I said in my other comment on this thread, congrats to those who bought a 1070/1080/1080Ti when they first came out, you're sorted until the true next gen comes out.
 
From what I could see in the benchmarks at 4K resolutions from Guru3D, compared to the GTX1080, the 2080Ti is 80-100% improvement and the 2080 is about 50% improvement.
 
Pretty underwhelming performance given the pricing. The 2080 is 1080ti performance at similar pricing (and prices actually higher than where they were 1.5 years back). 2080ti another 25% or so better but for 40% more money.

Suddenly hanging on to my 1070 for another year or so doesn't seem so bad! I didn't buy the 1080ti when I upgraded the rest of my PC last year thinking the next generation would give similar performance in the 70 series card at much lower power draw and money, and the 80 series card would give better performance at similar or slightly lower money. Doesnt look like thats going to happen this generation despite the launch being later than expected.
 
I think 1080p performance is not worth considering as the baseline anymore. CPU becomes the bottleneck and I doubt there would be any substantial improvement at this resolution in future generations too. At 4k, there is a decent difference, but the question is whether it's worth the price.
 
Seems Nvidia just released something just for the sake of releasing to put competition against amd thats it??

Only thing is about hyped ray trace which doesn't count much as of now. Nor the common masses care about.

In fact users will be more happy to still invest in 1080 due to reduced pricing and happily tweak/oc it than falling for new releases. Makes sense.
 
nRiTeCh said:
Seems Nvidia just released something just for the sake of releasing to put competition against amd thats it??

Only thing is about hyped ray trace which doesn't count much as of now. Nor the common masses care about.

In fact users will be more happy to still invest in 1080 due to reduced pricing and happily tweak/oc it than falling for new releases. Makes sense.
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With the jacked up prices of 20XX series people are gonna buy more 10XX cards and I don't see their prices going down at all until Nvidia gets rid of the excess 10XX inventory which they are stuck with due to misreading the mining demand.

Only if the 10XX excess stock is depleted but 20XX demand tapers off in say 2-3 months i.e. after Christmas Nvidia will drop 20XX prices.

But if 20XX demand sticks to the pace after 2-3 months that Nvidia is satisfied with then we can expect this generational pricing hike to be the new normal until AMD gets its act together.

They seem to be following the flagship mobile market trend with price hikes every generation.

The worst case I can foresee is AMD doing a Samsung to Nvidia's Apple and mimicking their price points which is way too bad for us.
 
Marcus Fenix said:
Not really
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/com...tx_2080_ti_and_2080_review_megathread/e6apgl3

I was hoping that the RTX 2070 would trade blows with 1080Ti like the 1070 did with 980Ti but doesn't seem to me that it will pan out that way.:(
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I am referring to the 4k reviews from Guru3D for 2080Ti in comparison with GTX1080 which is what I have. The FPS @ 4K is typically double that of the GTX1080.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-founders-review,1.html
 
adventureguy said:
Seems like they launched regular 2080 as 2080Ti . normally they launch Ti version a few months after regular flagship
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Nope 2080 Ti is big turing (TU102) with two SMMs lopped off, 2080 is fully unlocked small turing (TU104). It is as it was in maxwell/pascal generation. It is just that the raw performance delta between the two chips is not that big a jump as between maxwell/pascal.
 
Marcus Fenix said:
With the jacked up prices of 20XX series people are gonna buy more 10XX cards and I don't see their prices going down at all until Nvidia gets rid of the excess 10XX inventory which they are stuck with due to misreading the mining demand.

Only if the 10XX excess stock is depleted but 20XX demand tapers off in say 2-3 months i.e. after Christmas Nvidia will drop 20XX prices.

But if 20XX demand sticks to the pace after 2-3 months that Nvidia is satisfied with then we can expect this generational pricing hike to be the new normal until AMD gets its act together.

They seem to be following the flagship mobile market trend with price hikes every generation.

The worst case I can foresee is AMD doing a Samsung to Nvidia's Apple and mimicking their price points which is way too bad for us.
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There are many other factors in play. Memory prices are still high and the Trumps stupid trade war with china has also resulted in increased prices. There is talk that computer hardware prices in US may get increased by a big factor. These prices may indeed become the new normal or may even be just the tip of the iceberg. 1080Ti prices went up to $1000 due the mining demand in the past.
 
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you won't get ray tracing with 10 series cards. Its as simple as that. With red camp lacking any high end cards this year, nvidia figured that those wanting performance will go buy 10 series cards and those who want absolute high end cards will go buy 20 series cards
 
adventureguy said:
you won't get ray tracing with 10 series cards. Its as simple as that. With red camp lacking any high end cards this year, nvidia figured that those wanting performance will go buy 10 series cards and those who want absolute high end cards will go buy 20 series cards
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I know that RT/DLSS won't be a part of the 10xx GPUs. But even if nVidia is packaging that vaporware in 2070 why would someone pay the same as a 1080Ti for it?

It should have been around 44-52k i.e. the price range of the 1080. But then again this might be the effect of the 74 Rs per USD effect as the 1080s might be old stock whereas the 2070s have to be imported at the newer exchange rates.

#AccheDin..:mad::mad:
 
nVidia fanbois man. People are gonna buy this no matter the price. Anyways its too early to declare ray tracing as vapoware. Animation movies are using ray tracing since many years and its absolutely the end game for graphics unlike that physx shit nvidia pulled few years ago
 
Ray Tracing is not vaporware. Its in the same league as the introduction of the Shader Architecture several years ago. It has applications in Graphics, Physics and beyond. Granted that it may not be a big thing for this generation, but it will be big in future.
 
adventureguy said:
nVidia fanbois man. People are gonna buy this no matter the price. Anyways its too early to declare ray tracing as vapoware. Animation movies are using ray tracing since many years and its absolutely the end game for graphics unlike that physx shit nvidia pulled few years ago
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Maybe real-time ray tracing will be big in the future. But this current gen struggles to get at 30fps@1080p on a 2080Ti......
So for now its full vaporware which people will turn off for smoother gameplay.

Animation or even the CGI stuff you see are all ray traced but those are not real time but applied to the scene shot on a green screen. Each of the scenes take massive time and compute on Renderman software to render so its not exactly an apples to oranges comparison.

BTW why are there no TE members with their 2080x cards?
Didn't anybody buy those or is this a sign of the active user base of this forum drying up?
 
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