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chetansha said:
Cant the buyers who paid to the scammer use this information and get help from cyber crime dept and try to get the money back
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same question making me rip my hairs off!!
- these kinds of scams making it feel like crypto scam experience (in the sense how hard it is to recover money)
- i heard if complaint is made in an hour to the cyber team, they can act to stop transaction from happening or by freezing accounts.
- but if the money goes in bank accounts then its upto the judge
(this is a highly compressed version btw)
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if there are some people who got looted in such way but recovered money plz share your exp and how you guys did it
 
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A couple of suggestions for online fraud aftermath and safeguards:
If anyone else has any other suggestions please add them too!
 
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kage said:
We can't have faces since that'd be an invasion of privacy, but yeah a video with usual TE safeguards like username / bill along with the item should be better than photos.
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To any seller saying f2f deal preferred, how about making it a requirement to exchange the same info with the buyer, like a video with the seller in it.. if they don't want their face.. maybe some id .. that's what you see in f2f no? You get to see the person.. now make that mandatory for expensive items.

Or make this optional but give this a mandatory info on the page itself like "seller is comfortable doing video KYC - yes/no"
If it's no, it's up to the buyer to decide if he wants to avoid the deal on something expensive.

I have another idea.. how about making a exclusive area for reputable techenclave members, who have good history+ they are ready to verify their info (mods decide what type of verification like face/masked aadhar or something) , now these members will get to deal with the same exclusive members who have done the same
This will also keep the members motivated to reach this ladder
 
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To any seller saying f2f deal preferred, how about making it a requirement to exchange the same info with the buyer, like a video with the seller in it.. if they don't want their face.. maybe some id .. that's what you see in f2f no? You get to see the person.. now make that mandatory for expensive items.

Or make this optional but give this a mandatory info on the page itself like "seller is comfortable doing video KYC - yes/no"
If it's no, it's up to the buyer to decide if he wants to avoid the deal on something expensive.

I have another idea.. how about making a exclusive area for reputable techenclave members, who have good history+ they are ready to verify their info (mods decide what type of verification like face/masked aadhar or something) , now these members will get to deal with the same exclusive members who have done the same
This will also keep the members motivated to reach this ladder
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With F2F the deals are usually easily verified since they are in person anyway.
It's the shipped deals that are scammer prone.

As for the exclusive area thing, that sounds like a great idea!
Especially since Renegade said this in another thread where the new feedback system was being discussed: "Phase 3 is for future and will be done much later. Considering optional Aadhaar and bank verification. No personally identifiable data will get stored, just the verification status and maybe last 4 digits for cross referencing. The name on Aadhaar and bank should match, that kinda thing."
 
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A more efficient approach could involve using a middleman, specifically a dedicated trusted TE payment address. When a buyer purchases a product, the payment is made to the TE middleman, who then notifies the seller that the payment has been received. The seller can then ship the product to the buyer’s address. Once the buyer confirms, within a defined testing or warranty period, that the product has arrived and is functioning correctly, the middleman releases the payment to the seller’s account.

If the buyer does not confirm receipt within the specified timeframe, the seller will automatically receive the payment. Conversely, if the seller fails to ship the product, the buyer is automatically refunded after a set period.

This process helps protect both parties. However, there could be some loopholes it would require a dedicated TE member to fix and manage these transactions, and it may not be feasible for them to handle this workload, at least not for free.
 
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Heisen said:
A more efficient approach could involve using a middleman, specifically a dedicated trusted TE payment address. When a buyer purchases a product, the payment is made to the TE middleman, who then notifies the seller that the payment has been received. The seller can then ship the product to the buyer’s address. Once the buyer confirms, within a defined testing or warranty period, that the product has arrived and is functioning correctly, the middleman releases the payment to the seller’s account.

If the buyer does not confirm receipt within the specified timeframe, the seller will automatically receive the payment. Conversely, if the seller fails to ship the product, the buyer is automatically refunded after a set period.

This process helps protect both parties. However, there could be some loopholes it would require a dedicated TE member to fix and manage these transactions, and it may not be feasible for them to handle this workload, at least not for free.
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This has been suggested before, the reason it's not getting implemented is because TE is not marketplace mainly. marketplace is just an extention to the forum.
 
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Heisen said:
A more efficient approach could involve using a middleman, specifically a dedicated trusted TE payment address. When a buyer purchases a product, the payment is made to the TE middleman, who then notifies the seller that the payment has been received. The seller can then ship the product to the buyer’s address. Once the buyer confirms, within a defined testing or warranty period, that the product has arrived and is functioning correctly, the middleman releases the payment to the seller’s account.

If the buyer does not confirm receipt within the specified timeframe, the seller will automatically receive the payment. Conversely, if the seller fails to ship the product, the buyer is automatically refunded after a set period.

This process helps protect both parties. However, there could be some loopholes it would require a dedicated TE member to fix and manage these transactions, and it may not be feasible for them to handle this workload, at least not for free.
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Unless we are using automated escrow systems like the ones used on platforms such as G2G (correct me if I'm wrong), the whole middleman model can be easily exploited, especially if it's based on manual trust. There have been past incidents in Facebook groups where so-called "admin middlemen" ended up running scams or vanishing with the money. Over time, systems like these also tend to evolve into fee-based services where an "admin fee" is charged, which can create unnecessary costs or even exploitative practices.

Also, as mentioned by MysticWuw, TechEnclave is more than just a marketplace — the marketplace is a feature, not the purpose. It’s a tech discussion and enthusiast community at its core. The marketplace specifically involves second-hand items, and second-hand transactions anywhere inherently carry more risk for the buyer compared to new product purchases. Scams are common in the second-hand market, especially if the buyer doesn't do the necessary research on the product, its condition, pricing trends, and the credibility of the seller. Proper due diligence is essential to avoid being misled or overpaying for faulty or misrepresented items.

That said, compared to other places for second-hand items — including some big sites known for used GPUs — the sellers on TechEnclave are generally more trustworthy, and scams are very rare. The community’s reputation and transparency standards help keep things safer, especially when both parties are active and known members.
 
In the cases of Scam
Does filling the complaint with Cybercrime and Reporting to the Bank helps in getting the amount we lost back.?
 
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