The Fitness Thread !

Started with Strong lifts. The gym doesnt have a Squat rack so working on barbell and stuff without a rack.

Body taking more time to recover than I thought so doing only twice a week, instead of thrice. But its nice to be back to working out.
 
ssslayer said:
Finally!
Some people speaking sense on this thread.

But frankly I have no hope left for common folks being lured into the yarn spun by supplement industry.
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Some points for people who dont want to watch the video

1. The supplement industry is not regulated by the FDA, so they can make any claims and put anything in their products and nobody can do anything

2. A study for some supplements proved that 1/3 of the supplement did not contain any percent of the advertised ingredients, so many of the labels on the products are BS

3. The supplement industry grew from 4 billion to 32 billion industry, one way they could do this was sell cheap products at a high price (like supposedly it costs pepsi/coke 1 rupee to make a bottle of cold drink which gets sold for 10 rupees a 1000% profit)
 
especially regarding point no. 2 above - someone had conducted tests on a range of supplements of various brands, and had found an absence of nutrients advertised about the product, or presence in far less quantities. the only ones that seemed to have near-advertised or/and moderate-to-appreciable/satisfactory amounts were from reputed brands like ON, and a few more. this was published on some forum too, IIRC. i am unable to find a link to it. i think its posted on some earlier page(s) of this thread as well. may be someone who knows more about this could post it here.

P.S. - found this in my search just now!
 
anuragingle said:
Some points for people who dont want to watch the video

1. The supplement industry is not regulated by the FDA, so they can make any claims and put anything in their products and nobody can do anything

2. A study for some supplements proved that 1/3 of the supplement did not contain any percent of the advertised ingredients, so many of the labels on the products are BS

3. The supplement industry grew from 4 billion to 32 billion industry, one way they could do this was sell cheap products at a high price (like supposedly it costs pepsi/coke 1 rupee to make a bottle of cold drink which gets sold for 10 rupees a 1000% profit)
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Very true.
 
anuragingle said:
Some points for people who dont want to watch the video

1. The supplement industry is not regulated by the FDA, so they can make any claims and put anything in their products and nobody can do anything

2. A study for some supplements proved that 1/3 of the supplement did not contain any percent of the advertised ingredients, so many of the labels on the products are BS

3. The supplement industry grew from 4 billion to 32 billion industry, one way they could do this was sell cheap products at a high price (like supposedly it costs pepsi/coke 1 rupee to make a bottle of cold drink which gets sold for 10 rupees a 1000% profit)
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a) I had raised the question about claims of protein powders - so the video confirms that the issue is not just in India but also in the US! (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shift...ng-exercises-supplements-220.html#post3058509)
b) I had also raised the question that has anyone done ABX kind of comparison seeing grams of proteins vs actual physique sported by the subject (http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shift...ng-exercises-supplements-220.html#post3058994), which in my opinion would be a bigger blow to the hype surrounding protein powders ...
 
Just a mention... I tried that VFuel protein supp for 3 months doing proper workout. I didn't feel it was making any difference. Finally resorted back to having just egg whites as my protein source... still having them dozen a day. Got ON Whey after VF got over and this feels like a wiser choice to spend bit extra and go for the more reliable ones out there. IMHO.
 
ON and UN are some of the only few said to be (most) trusted and reliable brands...i don't have enough experience with ON, and none with UN.
 
Practiced proper Eskrima drills and allied exercises today morning, after a very long time. shoulders, biceps, forearms, fingers, whole arms thanking (achingly) for infusing new vigour in them. even simple drills done with power & speed can exhaust one in no time! after months of playing with weights (mostly strength-building + hybrid routines), with minimal, maintenance-level (martial arts) practice & exercises thrown in between at times, today's activity was a good reminder to not forsake one form of training for the other, if being & remaining functionally, realistically, externally & internally fit & strong is a goal. training with just weights can be quite addictive and often tend to make one body-centric, ego-centric as well. using a wholesome training regimen with various forms of priming can keep one grounded on a humbler level. last i had such a self-reminder & musings was about 6 years back. don't know how many more such alerts will i need in order to behave myself and not go astray, and keep at it. time to write it down a 101 times in my diary and etch it on my memory it seems. :D

Anyway, i wish this 'fitness' thread doesn't get restricted to just posts on/about going to gym/lifting weights & dietary-supplements alone. some pages back there was a brief discussion on other activities like swimming, etc. i think; i hope those kind of discussions also take place from time-to-time and continue. overall fitness (good strength, speed, power, endurance, focus, physical & mental health & wellness) come from myriad ways! ;)
 
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rock_ya_baby said:
Just a mention... I tried that VFuel protein supp for 3 months doing proper workout. I didn't feel it was making any difference. Finally resorted back to having just egg whites as my protein source... still having them dozen a day. Got ON Whey after VF got over and this feels like a wiser choice to spend bit extra and go for the more reliable ones out there. IMHO.
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Try reducing the qty of eggs while keeping everything else the same (diet, exercise, rest, sleep etc)
And please note if you really observe any change in your performance and physique.

Just like you questioned the need to go for protein supps, you must question the need to have higher than normal protein intake.
 
is anyone aware of a good podiatrist at Thane/Mumbai/Pune?! though not podiatrists, but i've 2 in mind - Dr. Anant Joshi at Dadar, and Dr. Sachin Tapasvi at Pune. would pay a visit to the former first if can't get to know about a good podiatrist directly. :)
 
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^ not much difference in strength levels or physique?
Unfortunately in both cases, it is genetics and drugs and your response to the drugs (which can be termed as genetics only) that determine where you will reach :D
So you need not answer my question.
:p
 
Anyone here suffering from flat foot and overpronation (severe) type.

Basicallly Weight Training is very fine for me but running 30 min 4-5 km is very painful for me.
Especially with stability issues.
After 15 min my legs imbalance a bit.

Tried insoles orthotics but all are fail.
 
Kilroyquasar said:
is anyone aware of a good podiatrist at Thane/Mumbai/Pune?! though not podiatrists, but i've 2 in mind - Dr. Anant Joshi at Dadar, and Dr. Sachin Tapasvi at Pune. would pay a visit to the former first if can't get to know about a good podiatrist directly. :)
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There is a good specialist on S.B. Road./Deccan
Dr. Jindal

Will pm you exact details.
 
Party Monger said:
Working out with stronglifts for about a month. Doing only two workouts per week. Not much difference though the body is sore few days after :|
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I have been on and off on stronglifts. My chief aim was strength gain.
When i first did it, I started off with an empty olympic bar for squats, bench press and overhead. and 40 kg for row and deadlift. I was very sore for 2 weeks.
I also bought 1.25 kg olympic plates as recommended. I found a gym wit a squat rack and olympic rods and plates (did not find one with a squat cage)
The soreness started disappearing after the 3rd week and I stuck to the program, i.e 3 days a week. Took care of my diet a little bit. Some more protein and calories.
Wore flat shoes, got a belt when the deadlifts started going above 80kg.

In around 3-4 months, my squats went up to 70kg 5x5. My best single squat was 90kg.
Bench press has gone up to 60kg 5x5, overhead 37.7 5x5, deadlift 115x3. pendlay row - 55 kg5x5.
Though I dont look bulked up or anything, I see that all my pants have become tight at the thighs region, my wife compliments me on my butt ;-). better arms, shoulders, nice chest.
Looking good in t-shits too. Overall, pretty much feeling good.
Stamina seems to really gone up (measuring in terms of how long I can run & play badminton)
One side-effect is a ravenous hunger all day through and burning hands during the day after deadlifts.

And I have also measured the fat percentages, all skeletal muscle gone up and all fat has come down although in small percentages.
On the whole, I can confidently say that stronglifts is a nice program, specially for busy people (only 3 days a week :) ). And considering that I am an eggetarian, I feel that I have come a long way from where I am. Note that that I have tried the 6 day body split routines too and though it did give results, it was no where close what I got from 3-4 months of stronglifts.
I am the kind of guy people call a 'hard-gainer' tall & lanky. Long limbs, very difficult to put on muscles.

Everything is not hunky-dory though. I have been stuck on some weights for weeks and have needed to decrease weights to correct form.
The 'captain-upper bodies ' in the gym never used to leave me alone initially. Now, they are silent though.
Finding the right gym with the right equipment took quite some time. I even considered buying a squat cage and weights. Space and prices deterred me.
I had to do some reading too. I found Rujuta's books (Dont lose your mind, lose weight & Work out, dont lose out)pretty relatable. And a couple of other nutrition related books like optimal health etc etc.
On the whole I feel I am the right track.
 
Party Monger said:
Working out with stronglifts for about a month. Doing only two workouts per week. Not much difference though the body is sore few days after :|
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Hey Monger, unless you are above 40/working in night shifts or sleeping very less or eating like a bird go for 3 workouts a week. SL/SS works with 2 WO per week but slower. Aim 3 WOs/ week. You WILL adjust rapidly. If after a month or so you fail to recover you may skip squats to two sessions while doing the rest of SL as usual.
 
harisubs said:
I have been on and off on stronglifts. My chief aim was strength gain.
When i first did it, I started off with an empty olympic bar for squats, bench press and overhead. and 40 kg for row and deadlift. I was very sore for 2 weeks.
I also bought 1.25 kg olympic plates as recommended. I found a gym wit a squat rack and olympic rods and plates (did not find one with a squat cage)
The soreness started disappearing after the 3rd week and I stuck to the program, i.e 3 days a week. Took care of my diet a little bit. Some more protein and calories.
Wore flat shoes, got a belt when the deadlifts started going above 80kg.

In around 3-4 months, my squats went up to 70kg 5x5. My best single squat was 90kg.
Bench press has gone up to 60kg 5x5, overhead 37.7 5x5, deadlift 115x3. pendlay row - 55 kg5x5.
Though I dont look bulked up or anything, I see that all my pants have become tight at the thighs region, my wife compliments me on my butt ;-). better arms, shoulders, nice chest.
Looking good in t-shits too. Overall, pretty much feeling good.
Stamina seems to really gone up (measuring in terms of how long I can run & play badminton)
One side-effect is a ravenous hunger all day through and burning hands during the day after deadlifts.

And I have also measured the fat percentages, all skeletal muscle gone up and all fat has come down although in small percentages.
On the whole, I can confidently say that stronglifts is a nice program, specially for busy people (only 3 days a week :) ). And considering that I am an eggetarian, I feel that I have come a long way from where I am. Note that that I have tried the 6 day body split routines too and though it did give results, it was no where close what I got from 3-4 months of stronglifts.
I am the kind of guy people call a 'hard-gainer' tall & lanky. Long limbs, very difficult to put on muscles.

Everything is not hunky-dory though. I have been stuck on some weights for weeks and have needed to decrease weights to correct form.
The 'captain-upper bodies ' in the gym never used to leave me alone initially. Now, they are silent though.
Finding the right gym with the right equipment took quite some time. I even considered buying a squat cage and weights. Space and prices deterred me.
I had to do some reading too. I found Rujuta's books (Dont lose your mind, lose weight & Work out, dont lose out)pretty relatable. And a couple of other nutrition related books like optimal health etc etc.
On the whole I feel I am the right track.
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Ofcourse you are. The problem with SS and SL is they work best on a calorie surplus. Move on to 3x5.
 
How is Muscle Blaze for Whey?


Rockfella said:
Hey Monger, unless you are above 40/working in night shifts or sleeping very less or eating like a bird go for 3 workouts a week. SL/SS works with 2 WO per week but slower. Aim 3 WOs/ week. You WILL adjust rapidly. If after a month or so you fail to recover you may skip squats to two sessions while doing the rest of SL as usual.
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Yeah im getting there. Reaching around 40kg and using a smith machine now since the weight is high. The weights are getting very hard and im generally afraid of injury as i cant afford to get injured right now. Too much to do.
 
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