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DigitalDude
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Linux Mint, Pop OS, Ubuntu.
Incognitux
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If you want newer packages for better compatibility with newer hardware and such then Fedora is a solid option as well
Just tried Fedora for the very first time in my life. It was a roller coaster experience.
I was impressed at first with how neat and organized it appeared. Played around with the stock Gnome 46 UI and honestly there is not much to discover. But as I spent more time with it, I started missing the simple things like the ability to get to the desktop in one click of the mouse. I was annoyed with the missing maximize/minimize buttons. I don't understand why any OS would these three buttons on a desktop operating system. It was plain weird.
Then came the subtle glitches. Linux Mint has been super smooth so I expected the same here but there was definitely something off. Maybe some bugs or what idk. The global menu? or whatever that is called, didn't always work without clicking. :3
Finally, I missed the synaptic package manager (I know this is a Debian exclusive) and a dedicated updates app. I was surprised to find that the "software" app didn't have any option to look for updates. Searching "update" on the global search menu wielded no results at all. That was disappointing. This meant that terminal was the only way to look for and download updates. Linux Mint is leagues ahead in terms of these basic elements.
I tried my best to like the latest Gnome and Fedora. Not sure if I did.
Coming from Linux Mint to Gnome 46 was like downgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 (The crippled Taskbar).
I was impressed at first with how neat and organized it appeared. Played around with the stock Gnome 46 UI and honestly there is not much to discover. But as I spent more time with it, I started missing the simple things like the ability to get to the desktop in one click of the mouse. I was annoyed with the missing maximize/minimize buttons. I don't understand why any OS would these three buttons on a desktop operating system. It was plain weird.
Then came the subtle glitches. Linux Mint has been super smooth so I expected the same here but there was definitely something off. Maybe some bugs or what idk. The global menu? or whatever that is called, didn't always work without clicking. :3
Finally, I missed the synaptic package manager (I know this is a Debian exclusive) and a dedicated updates app. I was surprised to find that the "software" app didn't have any option to look for updates. Searching "update" on the global search menu wielded no results at all. That was disappointing. This meant that terminal was the only way to look for and download updates. Linux Mint is leagues ahead in terms of these basic elements.
I tried my best to like the latest Gnome and Fedora. Not sure if I did.
Coming from Linux Mint to Gnome 46 was like downgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 (The crippled Taskbar).
Incognitux
Contributor
I just use hotkeys but you can enable that using the gnome-tweaks app.
I am 100% sure there is a updates tab, I have updated my system using the mentioned app.
Well linux is all about choice and using what fits you best :^) (I personally like fedora more than linux mint)
Ok, so I've been on Fedora since long before it was Fedora, so I'll try.
So what's global menu? The one we get when the mouse goes to upper left corner, or when pressing Windows/Super key? Or something else?
I believe even 3 years ago, none of these made it possible to install on encrypted disk in their standard installers. Deal breaker for me. Though i might be remembering incorrectly.
Yeah, plain gnome is weird, there are many other options. I keep it on only on systems where the VMs gets used most of the time, and host is just a way to get into the VMs. There are also lots of gnome shell extensions to gnome, which make it tolerable. I remember adding the "minimize to desktop" extensions on some.
Ok, terminology is not the best suite of me, desktop Linux in general, and Fedora in particular. May be you too
So what's global menu? The one we get when the mouse goes to upper left corner, or when pressing Windows/Super key? Or something else?
Yes, my fingers have memorized "dnf upgrade" , and they do it when it's the right time, without me noticing. But I just checked, and "Software" app has an "Updates" tab - it lets you upgrade firmware of hardware, whole Fedora versions, and individual packages. Cool thing I just noticed, thanks
Yeah, distro hopping doesn't work. I found serious bugs in Mint, Ubuntu about 8 years ago. And Debian had some serious inconveniences, most easily remembered one are about lack of dnf/yum/rpm.
I believe even 3 years ago, none of these made it possible to install on encrypted disk in their standard installers. Deal breaker for me. Though i might be remembering incorrectly.
I just tried it once again and failed to find the updates tab. I only see the "Installed" section next to the default screen that shows the app store.But I just checked, and "Software" app has an "Updates" tab - it lets you upgrade firmware of hardware, whole Fedora versions, and individual packages. Cool thing I just noticed, thanks
As for the preferences (Found in the hamburger menu), I was only able to set up/modify the sources. No updates tab?!!!!!!!
XD. It's called the "Hot Corner". Is there any way to make the dock appear without getting to the hot corner or pressing any key?Ok, terminology is not the best suite of me, desktop Linux in general, and Fedora in particular. May be you too
So what's global menu? The one we get when the mouse goes to upper left corner, or when pressing Windows/Super key? Or something else?
The screenshot tool is great! But how can I customise the screen recording options?? For eg, how can I make it record in HEVC?
Ok, so you want to make it appear without using mouse or keyboard? These are the main input devices people use. What input device do you have in mind for this?
Nah I meant having the dock auto-hidden in an "intelligent" manner and then having them popup as I float the cursor along the bottom.
Incognitux
Contributor
Use this extension called dash-to-dock you can download it using the Gnome Extension Manager
I failed to install Fedora. The installer throws up an error and fails to mount the selected partitions. I mean it just refuses to touch any partition even when I had specifically created dedicated EXT4 and swap partitions using Partition Wizard (Windows Application).
I wanted to share the Fedora /boot/efi partition with the Windows EFI partition but idk what's wrong. Never had such issues with any other distro and in fact I never created swap partitions prior to my Fedora trial.
Also, do I really need to have two dedicated partitions for /boot and /boot/efi?
bobbyprajan
Forerunner
I am not sure about Fedora, but usually /boot/efi is the mount point for the EFI partition. You dont really need a separate /boot unless you have an encrypted root partition
Great. But why is Fedora refusing to mount any partition? Linux Mint didn't have any such problems.
bobbyprajan
Forerunner
One thing you can try is to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2 / F3) and see the installer log. The log will help you to understand why the mount is failing. I am on a different distro, will download the Fedora 40 and try it out the install in a virtual machine
To reproduce my issue, you need to install Windows first and then attempt to dual boot with Fedora while attempting to mount the Fedora /boot/efi on the Windows EFI system partition. In my case the Windows EFI partition is 512 MB and only 31 MB has been used by Windows. But that's irrelevant since Fedora installer refuses to use my disk.
I am sure Fedora won't have any issues on a fresh HDD/SSD or on the virtual machine.
I see these errors specifically:
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bobbyprajan
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I just wanted to see the Fedora installer in action. Not trying to simulate your issue
Ah I misunderstood then. Yeah the installer looks cool. Enjoy.
Can you check your Windows settings and disable "fast startup" option in the old Control Panel power settings? Does your Windows installation have Bitlocker enabled?
I don't have BitLocker enabled but I just confirmed that this issue is Fedora specific. Moments before typing this reply, I installed MX Linux exactly the way I wanted to install Fedora. Mounted the MX EFI on the Windows EFI partition (Without formatting), the other partition as / and a smaller partition as SWAP. And the installation was over in 1 minute. I am typing this from the MX Linux I just installed.
So I am not sure why Fedora is acting the way it is. I am attaching the error screenshots once again.
