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Mac is good for rich laymen like bollywood and hollywood actors & actresses, who, most probably, even don't have time to know what an "operating system" is.Aces170 said:
For u & me a dual boot with pirated windows and hacked linux makes more sense.
My linux installation looks different, like WindowsXP(XPde), Windows 95(IceWM) or Mac(xfce4) or anything else(e) based on the people who use it. One cannot get the level of fine tuning for the os or individual packages that is achievable under linux with any other os. In this respect under other OSs, especially Mac,the computer becomes more like another home appliance( like a home theatre).
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Heh... this is just a Mac vs PC thread or what ? Anyway cost wise it is hard to beat x86 Intel/AMD PC's, and the array of OS's available for them is huge. So if priced right, this thingy from Aopen may be quite welcome. Mac's may be available for 30k, but thats not what's cheap, its the 10k-20k range which is important, in our country, as well as elsewhere. About 30k graphics cards, how many people actually buy them?
But yes people who can afford Macs, and for those looking for just productivity will find great use for mac's, undoubtably
. Further the PowerPC architecture is supposed to be quite good, so there are several plus points for a Mac.
Otherwise I agree completely with tbf, those looking for high customisation can select Linux/*BSD without doubt
? Anyway cost wise it is hard to beat x86 Intel/AMD PC's, and the array of OS's available for them is huge. So if priced right, this thingy from Aopen may be quite welcome. Mac's may be available for 30k, but thats not what's cheap, its the 10k-20k range which is important, in our country, as well as elsewhere. About 30k graphics cards, how many people actually buy them?But yes people who can afford Macs, and for those looking for just productivity will find great use for mac's, undoubtably
. Further the PowerPC architecture is supposed to be quite good, so there are several plus points for a Mac.Otherwise I agree completely with tbf, those looking for high customisation can select Linux/*BSD without doubt
Mac is nothing compared to a PC if you see the price performance ratio. I use a 2.5 Ghz Dual Processor G5 with 1 GB Ram at my office. It costs around 2.3 Lac without the monitor. I also use a PC with P4 2.8 GHz and 512 MB Ram. Mac is faster than the PC, but there is not that much difference. The PC Costs just around 30,000 (since its a branded one). The difference being mostly due to the Ram. But thats a huge price to pay for such a marginal difference. For 2.3 lac if you assemble a PC you will get one mean machine which can outperform the similar priced mac any day. I think that my home rig with Athlon 64 3000+ with 1 GB Ram can match a Mac in most of things. Also I think I am one of the very first people in India who got to use Mac OS 10.4 Tiger. (I Got to install it 10 days before the official release). Its real crap and reminded me very much of Windows ME which i think is the worst OS in Microsoft History. Tiger is very buggy and unstable. Mac Programming API's are also very unreliable and many have problems. Compared to that Windows API are quite reliable and always work as they are supposed to work.
At the same time i agree that G5 Processor's RISC architecture is quite good, but a Mac can be compared to9 PC only when it starts becomming available at a competitive rate that matches with that of a PC.
If you talk of Mac Mini, Its real crap at 30k. One would be better of buying a good P4 or Athlon PC than going for a generation old G4 Mac Mini, and more so because of the fact that you still have to connect a keyboard mouse and monitor.
At the same time i agree that G5 Processor's RISC architecture is quite good, but a Mac can be compared to9 PC only when it starts becomming available at a competitive rate that matches with that of a PC.
If you talk of Mac Mini, Its real crap at 30k. One would be better of buying a good P4 or Athlon PC than going for a generation old G4 Mac Mini, and more so because of the fact that you still have to connect a keyboard mouse and monitor.
Heh... You can always use linux/freebsd on the athlon xp box and u dont get those eitheranand said:because i dont get viri, no spyware, no firewalls, no a/v, a great OS, no BSODz, no crappy windows activation, no crashes, no-restarts
. BTW Mac OS does crash! When it crashes, it brings the whole house down 
Well I use the Mac for s/w development. Too many hangs and crashes even while normal use. I havn't updated to 10.4.1 Yet, its available but we were told not to update yet. Yeah you are right, a Mac Mini is sufficient for surfing, music etc. But 30,000 is too high as price to pay for such a system and that too when you still have to connect a monitor and keyboard. It would have been a better deal if they cound have thrown in a small lcd in the device at around 35k. Tiger still needs a lot of improvement. Panther was more stable than tiger.
@chaos- "Grapes are sour" Period. Btw i know people who haven't re-started their MAcs for months... well 90% don't format it even once . Can u say that about Windows? BTW have u ever used a mac?
@nemesis- yeah, tiger is into its early stages... it'll be more stable when it reaches 10.4.3/4 or so. Well, atleast it's not vapourware like longhorn. Neways i'd be buying it frm outside India...it'll cost me arnd S$ 928 or 23.5k
@nemesis- yeah, tiger is into its early stages... it'll be more stable when it reaches 10.4.3/4 or so. Well, atleast it's not vapourware like longhorn.
Neways i'd be buying it frm outside India...it'll cost me arnd S$ 928 or 23.5k
Yeah iBooks are quite good. Especially the LCD's in 16:9 format. quite good for watching movies ;-)
anand said:because i dont get viri, no spyware, no firewalls, no a/v, a great OS, no BSODz, no crappy windows activation, no crashes, no-restarts
I am wise enough to install a couple of software than be lame enough n spend 30k over something i wudnt be impressed with.. (perf wise)
I told you right... I have a 15" powerbook right here with me. I wouldn't have commented otherwise.anand said:@chaos- "Grapes are sour" Period. Btw i know people who haven't re-started their MAcs for months... well 90% don't format it even once . Can u say that about Windows? BTW have u ever used a mac?
@nemesis- yeah, tiger is into its early stages... it'll be more stable when it reaches 10.4.3/4 or so. Well, atleast it's not vapourware like longhorn.
It's not just a matter of installing a couple of software.TheMask said:I am wise enough to install a couple of software than be lame enough n spend 30k over something i wudnt be impressed with.. (perf wise)
You have to run routinely anti-spyware,anti-trojan, anti-virus programs and also have to do sytem maintainance tasks like running disk-defragmentor, registry cleaner, etc,etc. :O In addition you have to maintain these "maintainance" programs as well.
I got so fed up with all this that I shifted to linux totally though I have to sacrifice things like ifilm,raaga.com or smashits.Considering these aspects Mac-mini would have been a good option but it actually costs 33k plus peripherals =40-50k. Even one can afford it, there will not be enough horsepower to justify it.
See this tt review here