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esanthosh said:
^ But, you've not compared them personally with SE530 and that's what I meant ;). It's the best among what you own / owned probably by miles - TF10, FX700, RE262, S4 and others. It's similar to me making a statement that e-Q5 has the best mid-range ever without trying e-Q7, RE262 and SE53X :P
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One word.......Fanboism!! :P

Can't wait for Mumbai Canjam. Faheem cud you please do the honors of hosting a thread. anytime 1st week of jan.
 
Well I have had much more listening time with the RE262 and I am liking them more an more and at the same time I am also appreciating my RE1 also more and more ! :P

Contradictory ? Well then letme explain, I listen to these IEMs on a train coming and going to work. When I go to work I am more alert and pay more attention to the music and the RE262 shines as its much more transparent than the RE1.

On my way back from work, I am dog tired and looking to relax. Over here the RE262 is a bit too revealing for my tastes and the slight sibilance I hear doesn't help. In this case I prefer the rounded smoother signature of the Re1s to the sharper presentation of the RE1s.

Another point is that I have tuned my amp purely for the RE1s and I have not had a chance to tune them for the RE262s. Maybe a retune will help make me appreciate the Re262s better. :)

I am also happy to have scored a new pair for 7.5k which was approximately what I paid for my RE1s 1.5 years back. :P

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Btw, ClieOS reviewed the e-Q5 and the RE262 comes on top !!! :D

Also someone compared the SM3 and the RE262 with an amp that I have little respect for (Pico Slim) and its not a toss up between the two. :)

REVIEW: Earsonic SM3 vs Hifiman RE-262 Comparison - Head-Fi.org Community
 
^ What happened with the Pico Slim? Isn't it supposed to be one of "the best" amps available?

@BF1983,

You should listen to RE262 without all the tuning for RE1. On equal footing, I am sure RE-262 will beat RE1. I thought you'd get rid of RE1, but you still haven't :@ :P
 
Either the Pico Slim I got from Nukey was defective or its over hyped. It couldn't even drive the RE1 perfectly .No power at all . The sound quality / transparency and detailing was ofcourse amazing but whats the use of an amp with no power :S
 
Can't drive the RE1? :huh:

Even my lowly iBasso T3 was decent enough. May be someone technically inclined can tell if the power output power value is low -

From HeadAmp - Audio Electronics (pico SLIM Portable Amp)

Output Voltage 4V peak-to-peak, 1.4Vrms

Output Power 0.35Wrms w/ 32 ohm load

iBasso T3 (From Manual: http://www.ibasso.com/download/2010226223556.pdf)

Maximum Output power：120mW+120mW

Guess it's difficult to discern from this. iBasso does not provide as detailed specs as the Slim.

BF1983 said:
Btw, ClieOS reviewed the e-Q5 and the RE262 comes on top !!! :D
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Is Eterna > DBA-02, RE-252, RE0, RE-ZERO, DDM, PFE :S
 
BF1983 said:
Well I have had much more listening time with the RE262 and I am liking them more an more and at the same time I am also appreciating my RE1 also more and more ! :P

Contradictory ? Well then letme explain, I listen to these IEMs on a train coming and going to work. When I go to work I am more alert and pay more attention to the music and the RE262 shines as its much more transparent than the RE1.

On my way back from work, I am dog tired and looking to relax. Over here the RE262 is a bit too revealing for my tastes and the slight sibilance I hear doesn't help. In this case I prefer the rounded smoother signature of the Re1s to the sharper presentation of the RE1s.

Another point is that I have tuned my amp purely for the RE1s and I have not had a chance to tune them for the RE262s. Maybe a retune will help make me appreciate the Re262s better. :)

I am also happy to have scored a new pair for 7.5k which was approximately what I paid for my RE1s 1.5 years back. :P

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Btw, ClieOS reviewed the e-Q5 and the RE262 comes on top !!! :D

Also someone compared the SM3 and the RE262 with an amp that I have little respect for (Pico Slim) and its not a toss up between the two. :)

REVIEW: Earsonic SM3 vs Hifiman RE-262 Comparison - Head-Fi.org Community
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Yup it cud be ur amp or ur preferences

Never heard any sibilance with thm(i nvr heard sibilance on any track till date, anyhow i will double check with some sibilant tracks)

yesterday i lied down with 262 and i was lost into some other world.

could be fatigue or whtever but for 30-40 seconds it felt like i m hearing my music live, totally surrounded by music(recording was also very gud).

i m not a fanboy of 262, but i consider it worth 8k and it suits my preferences.

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esanthosh said:
Is Eterna > DBA-02, RE-252, RE0, RE-ZERO, DDM, PFE :S
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:huh: :hap5: :rofl:
 
^ You could be right about RE-262 or Brendon has songs that have sibilance in recording.

@Brendon,

To consider one more possibility, are you in anyway using EQ in your portable setup, especially boosted highs for RE1?
 
Pico slim a Hoax !! i am in a middle of a deal for Pico DAC(only) !! ..should i cancel it !

brendon, yeah ther are hardly any issues of sibilance with re262 ! :(

santosh, i thin clieos rattings take the valus also in account ! :)
 
wow just saw that !! :O ...lol he rates them over DBA !lol, thats his peronal preference :) MUST REALLY love its signature then ! :)

also , i cant help but wonder weather the re262 are under-hyped because of their going price and the fact that they came free with the hm602 !
 
I got this feeling too. Despite the positive reviews, RE-262s are not hyped as much as some of the FOTM products were. I know that Head-Direct is already working on something better than 262 already tentatively called RE272 - see clieOS' "Potential reviews" section, though nobody knows when they are going to come up. May be as I speculated a while ago, RE272 would bring out all the capabilities of the RE262 driver. If it is as good as I expect, I'll upgrade from RE252. But, I am not sure when it'll come out :(
 
esanthosh said:
I got this feeling too. Despite the positive reviews, RE-262s are not hyped as much as some of the FOTM products were. I know that Head-Direct is already working on something better than 262 already tentatively called RE272 - see clieOS' "Potential reviews" section, though nobody knows when they are going to come up. May be as I speculated a while ago, RE272 would bring out all the capabilities of the RE262 driver. If it is as good as I expect, I'll upgrade from RE252. But, I am not sure when it'll come out :(
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my wallet dnt like ths........u want tht i shud start skipping my meals
 
Ok, I seem to have stirred up a hornets nest ! :P

I do listen to my music a bit loud so its possible thats the reason why I hear sibilance from time to time. And just to explain its nowhere near the sibilance of the Hippo VB, just a slight harshness of the ssssssssssssss sound.

I am very sensitive to any harshness and thats the reason I love earphones like the RE1 and Brainwavz M3. (And no I will NEVER sell the RE1s !!! :P)

And coming back to the Pico slim, yes it was very detailed but sounded a bit dry and underpowered for my tastes. The Ibasso P3+ is tuned to have a more lush/smooth midrange in comparison.

@Strategy - I have not heard the Pico Slim DAC so I dunno how it sounds. If you want a DAC I would suggest the Music Streamer II. It costs around $149 and its sounds better than all the other DACs I have tried - udac, Compass DAC, Hotaudio Mark IV, Hippo DAC and Ibasso D4.
 
santosh, yeah i have read that 262's drivers are a lot better than they are being portrayed as ! i would like to do the foam mod but ..:( am afraid ( even though it does not look that heavy! )

Brendon, no i was not looking for amps specially, read soo much about the pico products ..was getting a good deal on the dac thats why PMed him ! :)

Mukul,Why not!! ? SLIM is in !:P think, think how much could you save !! you can get LCD2 in 4 months !!
 
BF1983 said:
I do listen to my music a bit loud so its possible thats the reason why I hear sibilance from time to time. And just to explain its nowhere near the sibilance of the Hippo VB, just a slight harshness of the ssssssssssssss sound.
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I'd put it down to better treble response, may be ;). RE1's roll-off begins much earlier. It's possible that the recording itself has sibilance and RE1s being rolled off does not stress that enough. In the forthcoming head-fi meet, probably you can A-B the same songs with a few other IEMs which have good highs. If you hear them bringing out sibilance more, it's possible that RE-262 with it's smoother, laidback treble is just staying true to the recording.
esanthosh said:
clieOS list: Is Eterna > DBA-02, RE-252, RE0, RE-ZERO, DDM, PFE :S
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I asked him about it. He just likes the Eterna V1 more and says that Eterna V2 is nowhere close. He is also not sure about the coming up 're-released' Eterna V1. Since I like TF10 and seeing where it is in his ranking, I guess he prefers non-fatiguing, fun and enjoyable phones more. He also has a preference for mids, warmth and musicality over analytical, dry phones.

ljokerl leans more towards analytical sound personally, but his reviews are more unbiased (See UM3X and SM3). dfkt enjoys V-shaped sound and hates dry, analytical, thin sounding, less bassy phones. mark2410 just hates any excess on either side of the spectrum - To each his own :)
 
Jokers preference of analytical sound and His 10/10 ratting to the SM3 Has struck me !! :O

he even dropped The earlier 10/10 scorers

if SM3 was remold-able i would have bought them ...but its not as i take it :(
 
If you try SM3, you'll know why ;). It's not that hard for me to believe why he has SM3 at 10/10 and the rest ranked downwards.

On re-molding, why not? They are BA after all. Probably the best way is to ask if Earsonics does it. Otherwise, the final signature might suffer.

strategy said:
santosh, yeah i have read that 262's drivers are a lot better than they are being portrayed as ! i would like to do the foam mod but ..:( am afraid ( even though it does not look that heavy! )
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This is one comment I read about the foam-modded RE-262: Hifiman RE262 Initial Impressions - Page 26 - Head-Fi.org Community

There definitely is more treble detail but the 262s have lost a bit of body, depth and texture to the bass. I think the slight bass emphasis worked well with the wide soundstage of the 262s.
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