What kind of madman eats a dog!
- Thread starter undertaker
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He was referring to UT's post.
As for dogs protecting etc, well a dog once bit my father for no reason.
Sure wasn't protecting him.
And a lot of other animals do stuff for their owners, ok. Ask a farmer whose ox plows his field for him.
I love dogs too, but to say that some one animal life is more valuable than another is plain stupid.
I agree with you, that the act (killing the dog) was inhumane, because as you describe it, it seems only to be a part of a ritual.
I am non vegetarian (eat chicken/fish, no beef). I EAT animals. But I would not have them treated cruelly for no reason. Food is a valid reason (let us not get ito health issues, I am talking only of ethics here). Killing an animal for a rug is not. Nor is sacrificing them at the altar in the name of some.... All life is divine in its own way. I do not condone cutting of trees for no useful reason, nor do I pluck leaves and flowers off plants.
Incidentally that is the argument I give to defend my non vegetarian habits. You might say it is unhealthy (cholesterol etc) and there you MIGHT have a point. But as for higher intelligence etc, no one has yet proved conclusively that plants are not intelligent, or chicken are stupid. Some might say dogs are stupid - jumping in front of bullets for their masters as you say. It is a sign of loyalty, but intelligence? Not very clear there. (One sign of intelligence according to evolution is the ability to further ones species).
Don't say one life is more important than another. Suppose you had a pet parrot, I bet if it came down to having to choose between the death of that parrot, or some stray dog (KK's gone nuts! He's shooting up animals!!) I bet u wud choose the death of the stray dog.
As for dogs protecting etc, well a dog once bit my father for no reason.
Sure wasn't protecting him.
And a lot of other animals do stuff for their owners, ok. Ask a farmer whose ox plows his field for him.
I love dogs too, but to say that some one animal life is more valuable than another is plain stupid.
I agree with you, that the act (killing the dog) was inhumane, because as you describe it, it seems only to be a part of a ritual.
I am non vegetarian (eat chicken/fish, no beef). I EAT animals. But I would not have them treated cruelly for no reason. Food is a valid reason (let us not get ito health issues, I am talking only of ethics here). Killing an animal for a rug is not. Nor is sacrificing them at the altar in the name of some.... All life is divine in its own way. I do not condone cutting of trees for no useful reason, nor do I pluck leaves and flowers off plants.
Incidentally that is the argument I give to defend my non vegetarian habits. You might say it is unhealthy (cholesterol etc) and there you MIGHT have a point. But as for higher intelligence etc, no one has yet proved conclusively that plants are not intelligent, or chicken are stupid. Some might say dogs are stupid - jumping in front of bullets for their masters as you say. It is a sign of loyalty, but intelligence? Not very clear there. (One sign of intelligence according to evolution is the ability to further ones species).
Don't say one life is more important than another. Suppose you had a pet parrot, I bet if it came down to having to choose between the death of that parrot, or some stray dog (KK's gone nuts! He's shooting up animals!!) I bet u wud choose the death of the stray dog.
undertaker
Skilled
Save a chicken b4 a dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sunnydiv said:
Man u are something.
For KK:The more intelligent the animal,the greater is his ability to feel pain and thats what makes it worse.
For all others comparing this to some goat or chick:
And its not if the poor creature's head was severed/he was shot in one go(a humane way of killing something if there is any),it was beaten with a stick many times over.And u say its the same as killing a goat for meat? :O
~HeadShot~
Skilled
undertaker said:
Now, that's human brutality!
undertaker, its not that i am againt what you saying, its just that there are worst thing happening in this world than a god damn stupid dog.
and yes i still think chicken should be saved first, we only eat chicken cos it is less smarter than humans, god forbid one say aliens come and start eating humans cos they are less smarter than aliens.
its just that this is natural order of life, birth and death, happyness and pain (max pain)
and yes i still think chicken should be saved first, we only eat chicken cos it is less smarter than humans, god forbid one say aliens come and start eating humans cos they are less smarter than aliens.
its just that this is natural order of life, birth and death, happyness and pain (max pain
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Rockyme2002
Skilled
One Line
SURVIVAL of the Fittest........always Holds True
SURVIVAL of the Fittest........always Holds True
undertaker
Skilled
Man u r really pushing it with me.U think dogs are stupid and chickens are worth saving.Go see a shrink.sunnydiv said:undertaker, its not that i am againt what you saying, its just that there are worst thing happening in this world than a god damn stupid dog.
and yes i still think chicken should be saved first, we only eat chicken cos it is less smarter than humans, god forbid one say aliens come and start eating humans cos they are less smarter than aliens.
its just that this is natural order of life, birth and death, happyness and pain (max pain
Dogs and humans share a special bond-it was the first animal we ever tamed,chicks came much later.Thats why its called 'honorary human'.
PS:Have u ever had a pet,let alone a dog?Guess not, coz then you wont make such aggravating statements.
Aces170
ex-Mod
^^ You do have a Pet dog dont you. I too like animals, and am against killing any of them be it a chick or a Cat or a dog.
This case though however sad it is happened in Afrika, where majority of them are uneducated.
Some years back here in uptown Mumbai, a group of spoilt rich brats got hold of an Air gun and went bersek on the poor stray animals, they managed to shoot an iron pellet in a stray's eyes and blind it, and actually enjoying the debacle. Now if even the educated ppl can come down to such lows why blame africans ? Atleast the guy was hungry, and didnt just kill for sadistic pleasure.
This case though however sad it is happened in Afrika, where majority of them are uneducated.
Some years back here in uptown Mumbai, a group of spoilt rich brats got hold of an Air gun and went bersek on the poor stray animals, they managed to shoot an iron pellet in a stray's eyes and blind it, and actually enjoying the debacle. Now if even the educated ppl can come down to such lows why blame africans ? Atleast the guy was hungry, and didnt just kill for sadistic pleasure.
undertaker
Skilled
They didn't kill for(just) the food,it was a ritual ,and was supposed to be better if the animal had a painful death.Aces170 said:
About the rich brats u mentioned,well when Salman Khan(who also killed a few deer) and others get away by running cars over humans and then appearing on charity commercials,what else do u expect?U r spot on there bro.
acec yeh thats what i am thinking, not just once he might have several
dont mind this undert dont take it personal or anything, i am just posting my view thats all.
nothing against anyone (especially ppl in africa)
its just that you shouldnt be specist (like racist but with spicies) as hinduism says love all forms of life
maybe i am just say that cos
1) i dont have a pet dog
2) all dogs hate me
3) i respect all species equal, and death and pain are a reality
4) and finally i am a firm beliver of what rockme said,
please dont send me to pagal khana, as i said nothing personal
dont mind this undert dont take it personal or anything, i am just posting my view thats all.
nothing against anyone (especially ppl in africa
)its just that you shouldnt be specist (like racist but with spicies
) as hinduism says love all forms of life maybe i am just say that cos
1) i dont have a pet dog
2) all dogs hate me
3) i respect all species equal, and death and pain are a reality
4) and finally i am a firm beliver of what rockme said,
please dont send me to pagal khana, as i said nothing personal
undertaker
Skilled
sunnydiv,u ask me not to be a "specist".So should I cry for the roaches and mosquitoes I kill daily?Or should I let the roach run on my food and mosquito drain my blood.
One has to draw a line somewhere.
One has to draw a line somewhere.
undertaker
Skilled
no my line is:
humans,dogs,horses,all higher primates and endangered species
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farm animals(even if they are killed for food it should be as painless as possible)
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pestilence like mosquitoes and roaches(kill 'em as u please)
humans,dogs,horses,all higher primates and endangered species
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farm animals(even if they are killed for food it should be as painless as possible)
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pestilence like mosquitoes and roaches(kill 'em as u please)
i remember seeing such sick stuff on a show called heads n tails.....made by maneka gandhi (she rocks btw)...showed all stuff abt cruelty against animals in india....for those ppl making derogatory statements abt dogs, u obviously have never owned a dog...i luv my dog more than my family or friends...
its humans who suck....it breaks my heart everytime i see a dog/puppy run over by a car, or sick n starved strays...but there is something called poetic justice, so i feel a lot better after reading abt earthquakes, tsunami's, murders, wars, diseases, airplane crashes, bombs, ... :clap: :clap:
its humans who suck....it breaks my heart everytime i see a dog/puppy run over by a car, or sick n starved strays...but there is something called poetic justice, so i feel a lot better after reading abt earthquakes, tsunami's, murders, wars, diseases, airplane crashes, bombs, ... :clap: :clap:
undertaker
Skilled
Apollyon:couldn't agree with u more man.
I hate cruelty towards animals.Those stupid ****ers who kill tigers (can we please spare that animal now?)should themselves be hanged without even a trial.
I hate cruelty towards animals.Those stupid ****ers who kill tigers (can we please spare that animal now?)should themselves be hanged without even a trial.
You guys seem confused.
Neither SunnyDiv nor I have condoned the killing of that dog as was done in Africa. We are just pointing out the hypocrisy in ur statements.
I do not believe in SENSELESS killing of any life. Period.
Yes I kill mosquitoes. Cos they bug me.
Dogs generally don't.
I eat chicken = food.
Don't torture chickens otherwise, nor would I condone that.
But how can u say that dogs are better than chickens? I have seen dogs behave very viciously. Dogs kill people at times (ever heard of pit bulls?).
Never heard of a chicken doing that (except maybe by bird flu).
PS: I DO love dogs.
Neither SunnyDiv nor I have condoned the killing of that dog as was done in Africa. We are just pointing out the hypocrisy in ur statements.
I do not believe in SENSELESS killing of any life. Period.
Yes I kill mosquitoes. Cos they bug me.
Dogs generally don't.
I eat chicken = food.
Don't torture chickens otherwise, nor would I condone that.
But how can u say that dogs are better than chickens? I have seen dogs behave very viciously. Dogs kill people at times (ever heard of pit bulls?).
Never heard of a chicken doing that (except maybe by bird flu).
PS: I DO love dogs.
Rockyme2002
Skilled
Guys ....is this goin ny whr???
i TOO love dogs....nd have even almost hit nd smetmes even hav hit guys who hav thrown stones at just passing by dogs or sleeping dogs...............but weird stuff happens evrywhr....like Sunny pointed out tht bow wow biryani......cant help unless u have too much power in ur hands (maneka gandhi...whr r u??)...well can try to stop this in India...but can it be done all around the world???
my 1st post here still hold true........thr r many thngs which r more cruel than these....
i TOO love dogs....nd have even almost hit nd smetmes even hav hit guys who hav thrown stones at just passing by dogs or sleeping dogs...............but weird stuff happens evrywhr....like Sunny pointed out tht bow wow biryani......cant help unless u have too much power in ur hands (maneka gandhi...whr r u??)...well can try to stop this in India...but can it be done all around the world???
my 1st post here still hold true........thr r many thngs which r more cruel than these....