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WhatsApp sues Modi government over new privacy rules
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What are his dubious scams let's discuss
Majority went in welfare and just because it's not under smaino vontrol ,it is not scam
buzz88
Forerunner
Lmao on "no concrete evidence" being used in the same sentence with Modi. Forget corruption, in any working mature democracy he would have faced charges as a mass murderer. Source: I lived 2 kms away from Naroda Patia in early 2000s. There's ample amount of evidence against him that before he became the PM, most western countries had declared him as dangerous as religious nutters like Taliban and banned him entry. Only his becoming PM had allowed him to be able to step out in the western world on his never-ending vacations before Corona.
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Can you show me proof that "majority" went into welfare?
I am not pro modi
Pmcares details were never released into public so we cannot say what and how much went where
I agree they have a very radical mentality but courts gave them clean chit(I still have faith in our higher courts but can't be sure about everything) on his previous accusations , however it also means that he is a poor administrator who cudnt control the things that happen which he is being accused of
But still unlike previous govts which are riddled with proof of scams modi is still relatively cleaner still
To me demonitisation was the biggest scam of all, rbi received 99% of old currency , yet no big amount of black money was found . So basically modi knows that if u steal from a theif he can't go and complain to police .
Pmcares details were never released into public so we cannot say what and how much went where
I agree they have a very radical mentality but courts gave them clean chit(I still have faith in our higher courts but can't be sure about everything) on his previous accusations , however it also means that he is a poor administrator who cudnt control the things that happen which he is being accused of
But still unlike previous govts which are riddled with proof of scams modi is still relatively cleaner still
To me demonitisation was the biggest scam of all, rbi received 99% of old currency , yet no big amount of black money was found . So basically modi knows that if u steal from a theif he can't go and complain to police .
We all know what these special officers will be asked to do: They liaison with the GoI, and on request ask the host company to remove content. Will it be an order or request. That is the question. Is it muzzling free-speech. Same way they can ask these people: get us the originator. Is it not like officially planting a back-door in the company, and asking the company to pay for it.
Kaleen Bhaiya
Herald
Electoral bonds...
Sure you might say he didn't appropriate any funds into his pocket, but the fact that he remains a mute spectator when his party is the maximum beneficiary through these bonds makes him gullible too.
The problem is there is really no clear-cut definition of what free speech. It is, most of the times, left to the interpretation of the investigating officer, or for that matter anyone whose's feelings are offended at the slightest provocation. If this continues, then WA will practically have to ditch their E-E encryption given the amount of requests it will get in future to trace originator. I think WA, somewhere saw this down the line given its cozy relationship with the govt and now raising this issue under the barge of FoS.
This has international ramifications too... If this gets through, courts in other countries will arm twist WA to allow backdoor citing India as an example. It will be a nightmare for them.
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buzz88
Forerunner
Forcing all of us to use Aadhar and forced registering with our biometric data was a clear case of abusing power and endangering our freedom. This is the same guy who opposed Aadhar when he wasn't in power. Just google his previous tweets on Aadhar. And don't even get me started on Demotisation. Has ruined the media, though they weren't any good before, but now they are all but lapdogs. If the mainstream media and social media too are controlled by the govt/ the party in power, how does one expect to be well-informed of any mistakes/faults in their conduct? We all live in well-constructed bubble at this point. Ambani, Adani, Baba Ramdev and many others are reaping the benefits of supporting BJP during elections. Ramdev's products are nothing but crap and in some cases, even harmful crap, and yet he keeps peddling them in the name of nationalism. Yogi Adityanath is a dangerous precedent. Up until now, they at least tried to hide their real agendas. This guy straight up reminds me of how Pakistani Mullas are shown in our movies. Some would say he's relatively cleaner than prev govts. I feel the opposite. The prev govt, though corrupt, did not enjoy modi's popularity. Thus they weren't as effective at harming the nation. If the previous govts were common cold and flu, Modi is straight up Covid 99 as far as his influence is concerned.
If you read about what is happening in Lakshadweep, that is an extremely dangerous kind enforced anti-democratic ruling on a group of totally docile, innocent people in that island who live their own way. If govt. gets away with that and if they want to replicate those ideas in other part of the country, that will be a threat to Indian democracy. Edit: even when there are social protests and moves going against govt. administrator there, within last very days admin created new laws restricting air ambulance usage, etc. Yesterday night somebody burned down few houses near the sea side. Horrific state of affairs.
Also, govt. didn't ask farmers about what kind of laws can be implemented to help them, that can be good for them, rather created laws which benefit few and are being enforced down the throats of every farmer. There is no democratic process involved in that, so even though the protest looks illogical, gives some ideas.
Govts. created tons of laws during a pandemic, could've faced ample objections and protests even from their own circiles otherwise.
Instead of small govt., people are being forced to pay huge amount of taxes for an ever enlarging govt. which eats disproportionately from collections, favors private entities those facilitate such a mechanism en masse.
Same situation with govts. in many places.
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buzz88
Forerunner
And even if we disregard all these issues, Modi has utterly failed to lead India in the 21st century. Let's say previous govts were corrupt and incompetent. What did Modi change after being elected for two straight terms? China has leapfrogged and left us so behind, we aren't ever going to match them even though we had better brainpower arguably (which we lost due to brain drain to western countries), our young people were better trained (IITs, IIMs etc), most of us can speak English better than the average Chinese person and thus can cooperate with the West better than them. Still, we are on the losing side. Instead of investing in infrastructure and industries, we are spending money on building stupid statues. Instead of availing technology to our poorest, we are charging 42% taxes on our middle class for buying phones or computers. In the last five years, even our poor have been using internet through mobiles, and we are pleasantly surprised at that. We should be ashamed of that. They all should have access to fast internet and cheap computers, not just mobiles - only to consume media and let their personal data being sold for ad revenue generation. Given a chance, most of us want to immigrate to another country. Why? Because we know life is shit here. You can blame it on prev govts all you want, but Modi has done nothing to better the situation. Only made it much worse.
Lespiritdecorpse
Discoverer
Have you noticed that before any major election, there is a rise of the "Hindu Khatre May Hai" and other such inflamatory slogans amongst most of the pro Modi crowd and the pro Modi IT Cells. Sometimes helped on by certain "attacks" or "incursions" ????
Also the drama created by the so called religious heads tomtoming for the ruling dispensation. Calling the Supreme Leader as the avatar of Vishnu and all of that ?
Also the whole demonising of local or national level opponents of the ruling dispensation through lies, slander and mockery ?
Also the wholesale demonising of minorities, garlanding and making into hero's those who lynch and calling them as protectors of religion?
All of it adds up ....
Yes I agree all of that adds up , but that addition becomes futile alltogether . Are we all as a crowd such Noobs?
Lespiritdecorpse
Discoverer
@Docsaab , a clever man once remarked "The collective intelligence of a crowd is only as high as the dumbest man"
And if you notice, we (as in Indians as a whole) are a crowd, much less as individuals. We do everything as a collective, as a society. We, as a people, have deep seated xenophobia, racist tendencies, a superiority complex amongst ourselves and an inferiority complex with in company of a mixed crowd. A staggering amount of people are exceptionally superstitious, have class and caste differences which we, as a people, love to propagate. And sadly, a staggering amount of us are barely literate and have the capacity to think clearly. Most of these people prefer to leave the thinking to a group of fraudsters and scamsters who collectively go around as heads of various religious cults and the ability to brainwash is strong with them.
Please note, I am speaking of Indians as a collective whole, not as individuals.
And if you notice, we (as in Indians as a whole) are a crowd, much less as individuals. We do everything as a collective, as a society. We, as a people, have deep seated xenophobia, racist tendencies, a superiority complex amongst ourselves and an inferiority complex with in company of a mixed crowd. A staggering amount of people are exceptionally superstitious, have class and caste differences which we, as a people, love to propagate. And sadly, a staggering amount of us are barely literate and have the capacity to think clearly. Most of these people prefer to leave the thinking to a group of fraudsters and scamsters who collectively go around as heads of various religious cults and the ability to brainwash is strong with them.
Please note, I am speaking of Indians as a collective whole, not as individuals.
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@Docsaab
> Are we all as a crowd such Noobs?
You haven't met some of my friends those who draws ~1Cr. as salary p.a. + makes good amount of monies from stock market.
Told the how demonetization could've seriously effected local economy by helped bigwigs, how thousands of millionaires left India in last very few years and he himself would've done so given a chance.
Dude was claiming all that was benefit of demonetization, those who keep black money can't survive in India now !
My own neighbor who runs a 2star hotel might've lost tons of money during that period and in the aftermath, he says he will support supreme leader even if loses some money which can be recovered later. Learned that his hotel benefits from party politics, some murky black money scandals involving BJP leaders were eye opener.
So, there are naive noobs, so are cunning businessmen around this cult-ish party.
> Are we all as a crowd such Noobs?
You haven't met some of my friends those who draws ~1Cr. as salary p.a. + makes good amount of monies from stock market.
Told the how demonetization could've seriously effected local economy by helped bigwigs, how thousands of millionaires left India in last very few years and he himself would've done so given a chance.
Dude was claiming all that was benefit of demonetization, those who keep black money can't survive in India now !
My own neighbor who runs a 2star hotel might've lost tons of money during that period and in the aftermath, he says he will support supreme leader even if loses some money which can be recovered later. Learned that his hotel benefits from party politics, some murky black money scandals involving BJP leaders were eye opener.
So, there are naive noobs, so are cunning businessmen around this cult-ish party.
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Lespiritdecorpse
Discoverer
Its only the middle class and the poor who lost money, time and lives during Demon.
I know several fairly well off people who run these kharkhana type businesses and employ several hundreds of workers who were basically paid off their old salaries and the next several month salaries in the demonéd currency notes. I am pretty sure, there are a ton of folks here itself who know of such cases. Back then, there were even rumors that several businessmen connected to the Cult had advance warning about the move and had made the necessary provisions.
I know several fairly well off people who run these kharkhana type businesses and employ several hundreds of workers who were basically paid off their old salaries and the next several month salaries in the demonéd currency notes. I am pretty sure, there are a ton of folks here itself who know of such cases. Back then, there were even rumors that several businessmen connected to the Cult had advance warning about the move and had made the necessary provisions.
India desparately needs an equally strong opposition party as the ruling one.
Unfortunately, it seems Rahul is not the one. Congress have to reinvent themselves and are doing a huge disservice to the country portraying Rahul.
Needs strong regional parties with interest in protecting their state's interests and who can work together as opposition on national level.
Unfortunately, it seems Rahul is not the one. Congress have to reinvent themselves and are doing a huge disservice to the country portraying Rahul.
Needs strong regional parties with interest in protecting their state's interests and who can work together as opposition on national level.
buzz88
Forerunner
We are third in the number of deaths in the world : https://www.statista.com/statistics/1093256/novel-coronavirus-2019ncov-deaths-worldwide-by-country/
And this is the official record, unofficially, we might very well be the first. Some of us, in fact, very many of us are already dead to write a rebuttal to that.
It's easier to blame imaginary govt led by Rahul Baba or any other inept leader, but harder to face the fact that the current govt is responsible for our fellow countrymen dying,
and that too, due to sheer incompetence and also political shenanigans (Remember election rallies?)
We have proof of how kodi handled this pandemic , he was lecturing about mask in morning and was attending rallies without mask in evening , thanking people that they have gathered in so much strength
People have literally died due to oxygen and bed shortage which could have been easily saved.
There isint a worst case scenario of how this pandemic was handled by kodi
On the otherhand we have not seen Rahul Gandhi handling anything , I don't think he has held any administrative post also But I'm not so sure he can.
Jab choice 2 gadho ke beech hi hai to dono ko hi try karna chahiye