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"It has been 11 days and no one in BJP has been able to produce any evidence to prove the authenticity of the 'toolkit' screenshots"
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I cannot find any links to this incident right now, but didn't someone on twitter find a Google Sheet in which tweets would be added, and all people affiliated to the BBJP would blindly put it on their handles as well? If I remember correctly, some famous sportswoman was also involved (Saina Nehwal? PV Sindhu? I am not sure). And the guy demonstrated it by modifying a tweet and then everyone affiliated to BJP - ministers, influencers and celebs - tweeted the same thing."It has been 11 days and no one in BJP has been able to produce any evidence to prove the authenticity of the 'toolkit' screenshots"
Collecting more evidence from thedailyguardian.com and theaustraliantoday.com.
"It has been 11 days and no one in BJP has been able to produce any evidence to prove the authenticity of the 'toolkit' screenshots"
Can’t have more than one party spying on its citizens. Government doesn’t like competition. The recent data protection bill does opposite of that, gives more powers to government and law enforcement to spy and snoop on citizens more easily.
I can’t imagine the irony of WhatsApp suing the government to ‘protect’ user privacy.
edit- https://internetfreedom.in/dataprotectiontop10-state-security-and-surveillance/
IMO, I think the timing of this sure coincides with the usual distraction tactics
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same thing was said about the bill for Delhi's gov to LG. But Delhi Gov is still in power and enjoying the powers and no powers were snatched only the left media created that BS. And it would be irony to say, big tech doesn't wanna see everything of yours. If it comes to big tech seeing everything and an elected Gov, I would go with elected Gov, thankyouGov want to see everything.... I mean EVERYTHING
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Frankly, it would have made more sense if an independent body under the chairmanship of Judicial representative (judges) was setup to look into the issues of grievance redressal rather than the govt. Both the parties can debate it out and the body can pass directives to these social sites.
There is always a possibility of abuse of power by the govt.(twitter)
I trust modi more than anyone when it comes to corruption
Could you pass me the SC's judgement which said it was a scam or I believe you love media trials?PMCARES
Ah ample evidence, you should have went to SC for that and proved your words. No? sure, I believe a guy I met on the internet to say the truth with no proof's/evidence and judging Modi only because western world banned him because of congress's used their over-reached power to malign his image. I should prolly say thanks to congress for this as that stunt of theirs's is exactly the reason why Modi got free advertisement in whole India. Look at the difference, congress went overboard to get modi banned in the west but jaishanker(MEA) saved keju's ass in the Singapore's variant issue.Lmao on "no concrete evidence" being used in the same sentence with Modi. Forget corruption, in any working mature democracy he would have faced charges as a mass murderer. Source: I lived 2 kms away from Naroda Patia in early 2000s. There's ample amount of evidence against him that before he became the PM, most western countries had declared him as dangerous as religious nutters like Taliban and banned him entry. Only his becoming PM had allowed him to be able to step out in the western world on his never-ending vacations before Corona.
Can you show me proof that "majority" went into welfare?
Electoral bonds...
Sure you might say he didn't appropriate any funds into his pocket, but the fact that he remains a mute spectator when his party is the maximum beneficiary through these bonds makes him gullible too.
This has international ramifications too... If this gets through, courts in other countries will arm twist WA to allow backdoor citing India as an example. It will be a nightmare for them.
Forcing all of us to use Aadhar and forced registering with our biometric data was a clear case of abusing power and endangering our freedom. This is the same guy who opposed Aadhar when he wasn't in power. Just google his previous tweets on Aadhar. And don't even get me started on Demotisation. Has ruined the media, though they weren't any good before, but now they are all but lapdogs. If the mainstream media and social media too are controlled by the govt/ the party in power, how does one expect to be well-informed of any mistakes/faults in their conduct? We all live in well-constructed bubble at this point. Ambani, Adani, Baba Ramdev and many others are reaping the benefits of supporting BJP during elections. Ramdev's products are nothing but crap and in some cases, even harmful crap, and yet he keeps peddling them in the name of nationalism. Yogi Adityanath is a dangerous precedent. Up until now, they at least tried to hide their real agendas. This guy straight up reminds me of how Pakistani Mullas are shown in our movies. Some would say he's relatively cleaner than prev govts. I feel the opposite. The prev govt, though corrupt, did not enjoy modi's popularity. Thus they weren't as effective at harming the nation. If the previous govts were common cold and flu, Modi is straight up Covid 99 as far as his influence is concerned.
If you read about what is happening in Lakshadweep, that is an extremely dangerous kind enforced anti-democratic ruling on a group of totally docile, innocent people in that island who live their own way. If govt. gets away with that and if they want to replicate those ideas in other part of the country, that will be a threat to Indian democracy. Edit: even when there are social protests and moves going against govt. administrator there, within last very days admin created new laws restricting air ambulance usage, etc. Yesterday night somebody burned down few houses near the sea side. Horrific state of affairs.
Also, govt. didn't ask farmers about what kind of laws can be implemented to help them, that can be good for them, rather created laws which benefit few and are being enforced down the throats of every farmer. There is no democratic process involved in that, so even though the protest looks illogical, gives some ideas.
Govts. created tons of laws during a pandemic, could've faced ample objections and protests even from their own circiles otherwise.
Instead of small govt., people are being forced to pay huge amount of taxes for an ever enlarging govt. which eats disproportionately from collections, favors private entities those facilitate such a mechanism en masse.
Same situation with govts. in many places.
And even if we disregard all these issues, Modi has utterly failed to lead India in the 21st century. Let's say previous govts were corrupt and incompetent. What did Modi change after being elected for two straight terms? China has leapfrogged and left us so behind, we aren't ever going to match them even though we had better brainpower arguably (which we lost due to brain drain to western countries), our young people were better trained (IITs, IIMs etc), most of us can speak English better than the average Chinese person and thus can cooperate with the West better than them. Still, we are on the losing side. Instead of investing in infrastructure and industries, we are spending money on building stupid statues. Instead of availing technology to our poorest, we are charging 42% taxes on our middle class for buying phones or computers. In the last five years, even our poor have been using internet through mobiles, and we are pleasantly surprised at that. We should be ashamed of that. They all should have access to fast internet and cheap computers, not just mobiles - only to consume media and let their personal data being sold for ad revenue generation. Given a chance, most of us want to immigrate to another country. Why? Because we know life is shit here. You can blame it on prev govts all you want, but Modi has done nothing to better the situation. Only made it much worse.
I can see that there is an overwhelming dissatisfaction towards Modi govt but still he keeps winning
How is it possible that he still has a majority siding him
Is it because people don't want congress back in govt or something else?
Have you noticed that before any major election, there is a rise of the "Hindu Khatre May Hai" and other such inflamatory slogans amongst most of the pro Modi crowd and the pro Modi IT Cells. Sometimes helped on by certain "attacks" or "incursions" ????
Also the drama created by the so called religious heads tomtoming for the ruling dispensation. Calling the Supreme Leader as the avatar of Vishnu and all of that ?
Also the whole demonising of local or national level opponents of the ruling dispensation through lies, slander and mockery ?
Also the wholesale demonising of minorities, garlanding and making into hero's those who lynch and calling them as protectors of religion?
All of it adds up ....
Does that mean the collective people who voted for congress for decades were dumb? Please use logics here. Your argument for modi, applies to Congress as well. Same dumb people who voted for congress all these years are the same dumb people voting for Modi? OR Let me give another view, same people who voted for congress all these years finally saw their BS and voted for Modi.@Docsaab , a clever man once remarked "The collective intelligence of a crowd is only as high as the dumbest man"
And if you notice, we (as in Indians as a whole) are a crowd, much less as individuals. We do everything as a collective, as a society. We, as a people, have deep seated xenophobia, racist tendencies, a superiority complex amongst ourselves and an inferiority complex with in company of a mixed crowd. A staggering amount of people are exceptionally superstitious, have class and caste differences which we, as a people, love to propagate. And sadly, a staggering amount of us are barely literate and have the capacity to think clearly. Most of these people prefer to leave the thinking to a group of fraudsters and scamsters who collectively go around as heads of various religious cults and the ability to brainwash is strong with them.
Please note, I am speaking of Indians as a collective whole, not as individuals.
Its only the middle class and the poor who lost money, time and lives during Demon.
I know several fairly well off people who run these kharkhana type businesses and employ several hundreds of workers who were basically paid off their old salaries and the next several month salaries in the demonéd currency notes. I am pretty sure, there are a ton of folks here itself who know of such cases. Back then, there were even rumors that several businessmen connected to the Cult had advance warning about the move and had made the necessary provisions.
India desparately needs an equally strong opposition party as the ruling one.
Unfortunately, it seems Rahul is not the one. Congress have to reinvent themselves and are doing a huge disservice to the country portraying Rahul.
Needs strong regional parties with interest in protecting their state's interests and who can work together as opposition on national level.
We are third in the number of deaths in the world : https://www.statista.com/statistics/1093256/novel-coronavirus-2019ncov-deaths-worldwide-by-country/
And this is the official record, unofficially, we might very well be the first. Some of us, in fact, very many of us are already dead to write a rebuttal to that.
It's easier to blame imaginary govt led by Rahul Baba or any other inept leader, but harder to face the fact that the current govt is responsible for our fellow countrymen dying,
and that too, due to sheer incompetence and also political shenanigans (Remember election rallies?)
Jab choice 2 gadho ke beech hi hai to dono ko hi try karna chahiye
Before Modi, I used think a stable & strong govt is better.
Now I fear Govt without any (strong) opposition.
But again, revoking of Aricle 370 wouldn't have been possible without a strong govt. (Being from southern part of India, I have no personal opinion on whether it is good/support or bad/condemn revoking A370, I am merely saying it wouldn't be possible for any unstable govt).
I read somewhere, America is RICH Americans are POOR. If the Modi wave continues, I can see people say, India is RICH(because of the Modi publicity & how popular Modi becoming outside India), Indians are POOR.
Anyways on the original topic.
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This fake news with WA is going to reach absurd proportions now that UP elections are in a year. Makes more sense why govt was desperate for a backdoor entry..
and Twitter was told to block many prominent journalists in 2012 by UPA , I think meiTY was under sachin pilot, I don't remember. I completely agree with the hypocrite part.Where was all this outrage when BBM was forced to give government the encryption key?
There was none? Wonder why? Maybe because Modi was not ruling.
Y'all bunch of hypocrites.
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BlackBerry maker Research in Motion agrees to hand over its encryption keys to India
RIM's four-year standoff with the govt over providing encryption keys for its secure corporate emails and messenger services is finally set to end.economictimes.indiatimes.com
Who will spread fake news? are you talking abt congress or BJP?? You do know that both do it (don't argu who does it more or less, you don't have the numbers and facts/proof's so let's not get into that debate.Imagine the govt actually enforcing these rules. Their IT cell employees will be out of work! And who will spread the fake news and all the hate propaganda then?
But then again the judiciary including the SC is a mere puppet now so I guess they can get away with it by crook.
Are you indirectly promoting piracy in the name of freedom of speech?
just like propaganda of theguardian.com, that's also a propaganda. Left have even stabilized children now in the name of "environment activists", using children as shields lol, I am surprised BJP hasn't done that yet. You fight guns with guns, weapons with weapons. It's infowar, and need to be fought likewise, regardless how much you wanna laugh at it.Collecting more evidence from thedailyguardian.com and theaustraliantoday.com.
Both. The question you should be asking is , who started it.So who has the real toolkit here?
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Let them do that. Again it's basically free press for Modi by star campaigner for BJP Raga. I worry for the country because of such idiotic opposition we have. A majority govt which is handy in some cases can have it's disadvantages for few bills they pass which doesn't please everyone and centralization has it's disadvantages too.Left has started to use the argument that literally anyone can run India better than Modi so they don't mind if that anyone is Rahul Gandhi. I laugh pretty hard at this
Thank you for exposing hypocrisy and owning this libtard forum. Anyways some facts i dug up:-Where was all this outrage when BBM was forced to give government the encryption key?
There was none? Wonder why? Maybe because Modi was not ruling.
Y'all bunch of hypocrites.
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BlackBerry maker Research in Motion agrees to hand over its encryption keys to India
RIM's four-year standoff with the govt over providing encryption keys for its secure corporate emails and messenger services is finally set to end.economictimes.indiatimes.com
> I feel like talking to the Left media here lol. Would you read something else than Godi Media(congress's edition)?
Feeling like responding to a stereotypical IT cell drone which failed in it's life mission of passing civil service entrance exams, is now powered by drinking too much gomuthra only to excrete more misinformation and propaganda ?
Because reportedly none of those arrested in Lakshadweep islands were from that island ? In effect, new lunatic admin found jails there are empty and was displeased that his life is difficult in such a small island community ?
With that logic, tons of criminal activities happens along shoreline of Gujarat, direct involvement of people from that state with Pakistani criminal and such agencies comes out every now and then. Apply all those metric tons of laws forced on people in Lakshadweep islands in criminally infested places of mainland India ?
Thank you for exposing hypocrisy and owning this libtard forum. Anyways some facts i dug up:-
1. Do you legitimately think we let this slide because congress was in power? There was an outcry. A forum link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/08/02/2252208/rim-agrees-to-hand-over-its-encryption-keys-to-india
2. TL;DR: RIM gave the usual keys, which they give out anyways. some minister was using it to try and save face. Poor reporting means it worked. There was outrage.
Longer Version: From the fine article "But he said there was no access to secure encrypted BlackBerry enterprise communications or corporate emails as these were accessible only to the owners of these services." The reality is BES used keys assigned by the owner of the BES server, RIM HAS NOT and CAN NOT give those to anyone, because they don't know them. This has been RIM's position from the beginning and still is. What they have done is give access to the messaging services they run (and therefore have keys to) to the Indian authorities. My understanding is that this was always the case. The article really does not make the distinction between the two clear.
3. This was debunked the same day: https://www.theregister.com/2012/08/02/rim_keys_india/ - "Indian government officials have claimed that RIM... handed over the keys used to encrypt BlackBerry... – once again ignoring the fact that such keys don't exist." - Imagine digging up 10-year-old news, debunked the same day, to own the libs.
4. Whataboutism has got its limits mate. People had different notions of privacy back then, times change, I was 14. I knew f*ck all about privacy back in 2012.
> You would think few words in yours would incite me, but I couldn't care less or give a F about my religion. So yea, go ahead with "IT Cell", "Gomuthra" typical categorizations lol. What's next? call me a bhakt, andhbhakt, troll, bigot? fascist? authoritarian rule BS? I know all the congress's stooges playbook, so come up, go ahead.
May be without your own awareness, you are all that ? Because it is because of votes from people like you, India reached this state of affairs.
> Apart from that your Lakshadweep,
Not 'your' Lakshadweep, learn to call it 'our' Lakshadweep.
So convenient, now.
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>> Or may be, may be, false accused men deserve justice, accusers needs to be punished as any offender and you need some laws protecting men ? Right ?
Being an NRI, I too rarely voted. Not being a Hindu and far far lessor populace of the kind of people you are more concerned about, 40% mentally liked Modi to win in 2014 with some thin margins, thought India needed a strong leader, thought it was great when he won with a huge margin. Didn't ever expect we will get a strong leader like this. Now feel sorry for that kind of expectations from India without knowing ground reality.