Graphic Cards X850XT or 6800gs?

TheMask said:
no offence taken.. i aint no graphics wh0re.. so spare my limited/nil knowledge on the latest techs.. from what i see, the only reason for the difference in FPS is b'coz one is SM3.0 and another is SM3.0+.. not sure what the big deal is between the two though :P

But then again, when u compare FPS for SM3.0 at different resolutions and for SM3.0+ at different resolutions, the FPS is dropping as resolution goes up, which is normal..
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chk that again ..... FPS is increasing with the increase in resolution which is not possible ...... and 3.0 and 3.0+ are not very different 3.0+ has little more advanced .....
 
@ params,
Get the X1600XT ....its the most value for money card currently ....plus in future you can buy another one cheaply and crossfire them ....to virtually get the result of x1900xt ...;) :ohyeah:
 
^^ no way two X1600XT will give performance of X1900XT ..... and if its that way two 6800GT will out perform X1900XT lol

IMHO SLI is currently way better than CF .... its more mature and have better support
 
Rahul said:
chk that again ..... FPS is increasing with the increase in resolution which is not possible ......
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er.. i had to make this Excel file to verify ur point.. u r wrong :P



Rahul said:
and 3.0 and 3.0+ are not very different 3.0+ has little more advanced .....
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well.. if they both are 'not very different' then why does the FPS drop by a considerable amount (as much as 50%) with SM3.0+? :P
 
^^ maybe the site is crap :P .....

how X850XT is there in the SM3.0 and SM3.0+ test :-/

maybe X850XT is having some more FPS than 6800 but stilll its not playable ...... anyway with SM3.0 6800 is doing fine :)
 
Rahul said:
^^ no way two X1600XT will give performance of X1900XT ..... and if its that way two 6800GT will out perform X1900XT lol

IMHO SLI is currently way better than CF .... its more mature and have better support
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performance of overclocked x1600XT in crossfire on RD 580 will be nearer to x1900xtx levels......i was being conservative earlier by comparing it with x1900xt.;)

and by performance i mean actual game play and not just benchmarks ......
 
deejay said:
performance of overclocked x1600XT in crossfire on RD 580 will be nearer to x1900xtx levels......i was being conservative earlier by comparing it with x1900xt.;)

and by performance i mean actual game play and not just benchmarks ......
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No way dude, what are u sayin, that a 16 pipe 48 PS card will be beaten by two (actually about 1.5-1.7) 4 pipe 12 PS cards?? And the xtx is just 4% faster than the xt so dosent matter if u were being conservative or what.
 
TheMask said:
:bleh: ................
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if u are comparing that no name site with tomshardware then may be u was correct here

TheMask said:
no offence taken.. i aint no graphics wh0re.. so spare my limited/nil knowledge on the latest techs.. from what i see, the only reason for the difference in FPS is b'coz one is SM3.0 and another is SM3.0+.. not sure what the big deal is between the two though :P

But then again, when u compare FPS for SM3.0 at different resolutions and for SM3.0+ at different resolutions, the FPS is dropping as resolution goes up, which is normal..
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:P

@Deejay seriously i beg to be different
 
Rahul said:
if u think tomshardware is a joke then dream on lol ......

can u please provide any link for splinter cell performance ...... or any other source for ur given FPS and wat resolution u are talking about ......
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lol tomshardware is a joke ! Anyone whos been a regular @ toms around the fx era and all knows what i mean by that. Plus the intel licking that went on...........The site was clearly sold out. You my dear friends need to lay down the gauntlet and stop defending Nv to absurdity ;) The dog plus world knows the x850 pwned the 6800 series and that sm 3.0 was just a paper feature as far as the 6 series goes.

@killeraim: The x1600xt isnt better than x850 in performance.
 
@ blady chk out all the posting and dicussion before telling me that 6 series has SM3 only on paper .... and i know that incident about intel and AMD on tomshardware ...... but i think u missed the second round of that ..... even i commented somewhere that toms was Intel biased ...
 
Rahul said:
@ blady chk out all the posting and dicussion before telling me that 6 series has SM3 only on paper .... and i know that incident about intel and AMD on tomshardware ...... but i think u missed the second round of that ..... even i commented somewhere that toms was Intel biased ...
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Yep checked it. What concerns me though is even knowing that toms is a site not meant to be taken seriously u choose to defend it to be able to justify purchasing a 6800gs over a x850xt pe !

Rahul said:
if u think tomshardware is a joke then dream on lol ......
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Sigh........... :no:

anyways the suggestions have been put forth, its upto Params to decide now.............. Hopefully playing around with a hi-end gpu will get him addicted to PC gaming over consoles :P
 
Blade_Runner said:
Yep checked it. What concerns me though is even knowing that toms is a site not meant to be taken seriously u choose to defend it to be able to justify purchasing a 6800gs over a x850xt pe !
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dude i said u missed the second round .....
 
how about asking a halo2 elite developer himself :) lemme see if i can get in touch with him.
i had a nice comparison i lost the page bookmark will try to search and post.
to me its not a flame war the problem lies here.
With sm 2.0 games x850xt pe and 6800u x850pe is definitely faster and outperforms it.
But since sm 4.0 is going to come up soon, games will now use sm 3.0 extensively. as it was the case when sm 3.0 showed up, games used 2.0.
So right now to me in sm3.0 games 6800u is definitely better than x850xt and about image quality well i cant say it perfectly as i never owned any ati card.
 
Rahul said:
masky no offence but link given by u is a joke ..... first of all in the SM3.0 test they have X850XT .... AFAIK X850XT doesn't have SM3.0 support ......

and in Splinter Cell Chaos Theory @ 1024 x 768 (SM3.0+)
6800GT is around 22 FPS and with

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory @ 2048 x 1536 (SM3.0)
6800GT is around 48FPS
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Dude... fact is when so many ppl are against you, its simple that you are an nvidiot and no one else is a fanboy. FYI the 1024x768 framerate is with HDR enabled and the 2048 framerate is while using SM3 shaders but no HDR. The same can be achieved with SM2.0 which was added in a later patch which improved ATI performance even more. You know... half knowledge is worse than no knowledge :P. Simple fact of the matter is if you wanna play with HDR enabled, get a 7800/X1800/X1900 video card. Anything lower will not do. Whining won't do any good either :P.
 
killeraim said:
no more console Vs Pc topics then.;)
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Yeah, lucky break i guess. :P

On topic - I think X850 is the one i'll be going for. i'm getting a good deal on it on TE (13.5-14 tops). So yeah. I don't even know what SM3 and 3+ is. All i want is a card that would play games above decent quality and framerate for years to come, as i save up for the Ps3.

nuff said.

(though all ya' PC buffs can continue your 'discussion')
 
Well, the x850xt pe, wont give you decent framerates in SM3.0 games :S.

Hope all next gen games come with SM 2 and 3 for your sake.
 
goldenfrag said:
Well, the x850xt pe, wont give you decent framerates in SM3.0 games :S.
Hope all next gen games come with SM 2 and 3 for your sake.
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Lol when it won't run sm3.0 code, whats the point abt giving decent fps ! And all games until dx10 will have multiple code paths. Devs won't code only for the latest and greatest. There is still a huge no of people on X8xx, x700, x600 series,9xxx series, fx series and not to mention the ones on on-board etc.
 
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