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Bought D30 pro from taobao. I was under the assumption that my 140 mm fans will work, but I guess only supports 2 120mm (actually only 1 above)
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I am not sure what airflow should I follow. Just putting one in top with air into case should work?
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The orange line in the graph is my 5600 with stock cooler for now. GPU (3070ti fe) I have not undervolted it yet, so that should decrease temps. Any other tips I can use to reduce temps especially CPU?
 
coconutchairjasmine said:
Bought D30 pro from taobao. I was under the assumption that my 140 mm fans will work, but I guess only supports 2 120mm (actually only 1 above)
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I am not sure what airflow should I follow. Just putting one in top with air into case should work?
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The orange line in the graph is my 5600 with stock cooler for now. GPU (3070ti fe) I have not undervolted it yet, so that should decrease temps. Any other tips I can use to reduce temps especially CPU?
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The flow-through fan is likely choking given the tight clearance between it and the PSU. A recommendation I've seen is to flip the PSU such that it helps exhaust the hot air from the GPU. I'm not very comfortable pumping exhaust from a high-TDP GPU into the PSU, however. Your CPU thermals will also benefit from a 'shroud' or 'duct', so the cooler fan has access to fresh air. The cooler is probably sucking in a lot of the recirculated, hot air from the GPU currently. You can make/design your own or buy Noctua's version. A top exhaust is definitely recommended if you have the room; as is an undervolt on your GPU. I remember running my 3070Ti FE at 0.875V @ 1770Mhz in a sandwich case to reign in the thermals.
 
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The flow-through fan is likely choking given the tight clearance between it and the PSU. A recommendation I've seen is to flip the PSU such that it helps exhaust the hot air from the GPU. I'm not very comfortable pumping exhaust from a high-TDP GPU into the PSU, however. Your CPU thermals will also benefit from a 'shroud' or 'duct', so the cooler fan has access to fresh air. The cooler is probably sucking in a lot of the recirculated, hot air from the GPU currently. You can make/design your own or buy Noctua's version. A top exhaust is definitely recommended if you have the room; as is an undervolt on your GPU. I remember running my 3070Ti FE at 0.875V @ 1770Mhz in a sandwich case to reign in the thermals.
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Thanks for your points!
- The time i recorded my thermals, it was a open case and i was not using a PSU as i didn't have a SFX power supply then. I will be completing the build next Tuesday, and give more observations
- Why top exhaust? Shouldn't it get more fresh air for CPU? CPU is using stock AMD cooler which i think it's a exhaust too. I will try it on exhaust config and get more idea but not sure if that will help.
- Also for the testing i was just placing them above my case as there is not space in length and the height clearance wise which i can fit 140mm also normal fans won't work i think as it might need low profile. Is it a good decision to buy low profile fans for this case?
 
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coconutchairjasmine said:
Bought D30 pro from taobao. I was under the assumption that my 140 mm fans will work, but I guess only supports 2 120mm (actually only 1 above)
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I am not sure what airflow should I follow. Just putting one in top with air into case should work?
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The orange line in the graph is my 5600 with stock cooler for now. GPU (3070ti fe) I have not undervolted it yet, so that should decrease temps. Any other tips I can use to reduce temps especially CPU?
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No tips from me, but can you please answer some questions?
What was the final cost with customs? Which shipping agency did you choose? How long did they take?
 
coconutchairjasmine said:
Thanks for your points!
- The time i recorded my thermals, it was a open case and i was not using a PSU as i didn't have a SFX power supply then. I will be completing the build next Tuesday, and give more observations
- Why top exhaust? Shouldn't it get more fresh air for CPU? CPU is using stock AMD cooler which i think it's a exhaust too. I will try it on exhaust config and get more idea but not sure if that will help.
- Also for the testing i was just placing them above my case as there is not space in length and the height clearance wise which i can fit 140mm also normal fans won't work i think as it might need low profile. Is it a good decision to buy low profile fans for this case?
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If these temps were recorded in an open case without the SFX PSU installed, you're looking at a bad time with the case fully assembled and closed (though the case seems to be very well ventilated). You can obviously experiment with fan orientation and see what works best. I recommended exhaust because it should encourage cool air to be pulled in through the side panels. In the Dan A4 for example, bottom exhaust outperforms bottom intake by a significant margin. This case does not natively support 140mm fans. Not sure how low-profile (slim) 140mm fans will help. If you can fit a full-size 120mm fan, that's the way to go. Slim 120mm fans should not be an option if you can fit regular, 25mm fans. You also have 82mm of CPU cooler height to play with, may be worth getting a better one down the road. Just my two cents.
 
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No tips from me, but can you please answer some questions?
What was the final cost with customs? Which shipping agency did you choose? How long did they take?
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I had to buy extra stuff to balance out the shipping cost. I bought a pcie gen 4 cable just to justify the ~4k shipping + 1.5k customs ( UVed to 2k) while the case itself is 2k. It is not worth it at all, but i wanted to try this, so kinda waste of money
 
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If these temps were recorded in an open case without the SFX PSU installed, you're looking at a bad time with the case fully assembled and closed (though the case seems to be very well ventilated). You can obviously experiment with fan orientation and see what works best. I recommended exhaust because it should encourage cool air to be pulled in through the side panels. In the Dan A4 for example, bottom exhaust outperforms bottom intake by a significant margin. This case does not natively support 140mm fans. Not sure how low-profile (slim) 140mm fans will help. If you can fit a full-size 120mm fan, that's the way to go. Slim 120mm fans should not be an option if you can fit regular, 25mm fans. You also have 82mm of CPU cooler height to play with, may be worth getting a better one down the road. Just my two cents.
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Hmm, seems like better cooler is a better thing to go ahead with. I will check the fan height on top part and see if that fits a regular or low profile 120mm.
 
marsweeed said:
i have zero problems with airflow in this case, actually it is better than what i was imagining it to be. this is my current setup except i have also added 120mm fan at the back of the case. officially it takes only 92mm fan but 120mm is easy to fit as well

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fan on tower is in push config and i was initially worried if it will pull enough air from the front, but low and behold it is a mesh case so the fan pulls in air from the front portion of side panel. top fan is exhaust and fan at back (not in pic) also pushes out hot air. my R5 3500 never goes above 62° while gaming and GPU (1650 super) stays around 69°-70° with it's fans running at 56% only. i tried adding another fan at bottom, next to HDD but it lowered GPU temp by only 1° and hence removed it
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Which cooler is that , can the case accommodate a 158mm Noctua u12 ?
 
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No tips from me, but can you please answer some questions?
What was the final cost with customs? Which shipping agency did you choose? How long did they take?
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I apologise i forgot to answer all questions and just ranted and sent. I used superbuy, i finished all payments by December start, and it reached on 27th Dec, so 1 month time. Pretty quick tbh. Total cost comes around 2k+4k shipping+ 2k customs worst case 8k (also had pcie 4 cable clubbed so 6k worth stuff was there)
 
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The flow-through fan is likely choking given the tight clearance between it and the PSU. A recommendation I've seen is to flip the PSU such that it helps exhaust the hot air from the GPU. I'm not very comfortable pumping exhaust from a high-TDP GPU into the PSU, however. Your CPU thermals will also benefit from a 'shroud' or 'duct', so the cooler fan has access to fresh air. The cooler is probably sucking in a lot of the recirculated, hot air from the GPU currently. You can make/design your own or buy Noctua's version. A top exhaust is definitely recommended if you have the room; as is an undervolt on your GPU. I remember running my 3070Ti FE at 0.875V @ 1770Mhz in a sandwich case to reign in the thermals.
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Can you suggest some coolers and fans (low profile) too? I don't have much idea about these. Cheaper would be nice but i can handle bit of cost
 
coconutchairjasmine said:
Bought D30 pro from taobao. I was under the assumption that my 140 mm fans will work, but I guess only supports 2 120mm (actually only 1 above)
View attachment 156081View attachment 156083
I am not sure what airflow should I follow. Just putting one in top with air into case should work?
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The orange line in the graph is my 5600 with stock cooler for now. GPU (3070ti fe) I have not undervolted it yet, so that should decrease temps. Any other tips I can use to reduce temps especially CPU?
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After lot of hiccups, the build is done

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Getting ~80 in multicore and ~70 in single core cinebench. The exhaust mode on top actually helped a lot. Thanks @immolationepoch
 

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Just a quick check before I create a Classifieds post: I have an Asus Crosshair VIII Impact (Mini-DTX) which is incredible, but it impedes my goal to go as small as possible. Is there anybody here using an X570i motherboard interested in a trade?
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Anybody?
 
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Please suggest some reliable pico psu that are available online.
I have a spare mobo that I want to re purpose as a server so it has to be compact.
 
My CPU temps are shooting up way too high. while gaming it goes up to 90c and 85 avg. I think replacing cooler should mitigate this. Currently I have stock cooler and clearance above my case is low because of tight and lengthy PCIE cable, I dont think I would get any good results with Air cooler.

Case can only accommodate 82mm and cant do NH L12S like cooler as they obstruct the ram I believe (not very sure if it will obstruct the output ports side) and the cooler on top orientation goes over 85mm. NH L9a is there but I don't believe it will yield any better results. I am thinking to AIO route and get a 120mm AIO (cant go longer as it might obstruct the PSU power cable. Will this route give me better results than before? I am aiming max 75-80c for my CPU.

Bit About my case: Its sandwich layout A4 kinda clone. I think the FE card is pushing hot air to CPU and causing these high temps. I have put 2 fans as exhaust on top. but they are on top of case as I dont have enough clearance to put them.

I would like to know your views on this.
 
coconutchairjasmine said:
My CPU temps are shooting up way too high. while gaming it goes up to 90c and 85 avg. I think replacing cooler should mitigate this. Currently I have stock cooler and clearance above my case is low because of tight and lengthy PCIE cable, I dont think I would get any good results with Air cooler.

Case can only accommodate 82mm and cant do NH L12S like cooler as they obstruct the ram I believe (not very sure if it will obstruct the output ports side) and the cooler on top orientation goes over 85mm. NH L9a is there but I don't believe it will yield any better results. I am thinking to AIO route and get a 120mm AIO (cant go longer as it might obstruct the PSU power cable. Will this route give me better results than before? I am aiming max 75-80c for my CPU.

Bit About my case: Its sandwich layout A4 kinda clone. I think the FE card is pushing hot air to CPU and causing these high temps. I have put 2 fans as exhaust on top. but they are on top of case as I dont have enough clearance to put them.

I would like to know your views on this.
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Can you tell the exact case model? Except if it is a completely custom case, but then we'll need lots of photos and measurements.
 
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