And here I am, having owned just an iPod touch and a SE defending them for a lowly DAC..... everyone has different ears (or preference) but not sure what that has got to do with a DAC, which is supposed to be transparent..
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Mainak777
Forerunner
No. DAC is just supposed to convert Digital to Analog. The "signature" stems from how good or bad that conversion is.
Mainak777
Forerunner
Here you go -
Article: Understanding Digital Audio Measurements
EDIT: Kind translation to Spanish by member @RamiroColasurdo here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/article-understanding-digital-audio-measurements.10523/page-8#post-1486638 A detailed tutorial on how one can characterize the true performance of DACs (whether...
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Mainak777
Forerunner
So your point is , you just believe in charts or graphs and statistics and value rather than hearing them out?Here you go -
Article: Understanding Digital Audio Measurements
EDIT: Kind translation to Spanish by member @RamiroColasurdo here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/article-understanding-digital-audio-measurements.10523/page-8#post-1486638 A detailed tutorial on how one can characterize the true performance of DACs (whether...
I like to make sure that the measurements bear out what I am actually hearing and it is not just that that my HD6xx is suddenly sounding better with a cup of good coffee..
Mainak777
Forerunner
Rather than giving the measurements your main priority give the dac/daps some try and listen..i owned various DAPS/ DACS .. sabre chips, r2r chips , akm chips .. each have different sound signature and technicalities based on how well they are implemented.. A Sabre generally sound neutral , analytical and detailed , where a akm chips are warmish, enjoying and lush sounding..burr brown sound detailed with smooth sounding and r2r dac are organic sounding one.. every dac chips have different signature and tonality and if effects the dac sound in respect to how good the chips are implemented and what gear you use it just does convert the signal only..but that does not mean a cheaper dac will sound shit and costly one will sound great...that's what I found after trying different daps/dacs .. but its subjective as you can say..
And I appreciate all of this. The only point I was trying to make was that we should not discount a suggestion due to our biases when it is proven to do what it is supposed to.
Mainak777
Forerunner
I mentioned it already its subjective to myself only ..i maybe am biased about the apple dongle but i am not discouraging others not to buy that.. my point was every gear at every price point have merits and demerits.. as an example if you buy a hd 650 for 22k and use it with your phone , it will sound shit.. drive it through an otl amp like feliks echo and then you can feel the difference.. the stage, the seperation.. 650 will scale accordingly on the amp ..Last i don't hate apple but i don't expect much from them in term of Audiophile grade.. but that's just me .. people can buy whatever suits them ..
Oh okay. Does the concerned motherboard have any kind of DAC at all? I remember deciding to purchase a DAC but held off at last moment as DACs do not connect through the front audio panel which I love to use for that simulated 7.1 sound.
And thanks for the suggestion on meze, may consider it.
Mainak777
Forerunner
i doubt yours have one ..some motherboard have some dac chips - Example https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570S-ACE-MAX/Specification
rdst_1
Juggernaut
For a pure DAC, only the SNR numbers matter. The better the SNR numbers, the more transparent/non-coloring, it will be. So when comparing 2 different DAC-AMPS (because all of these devices will have some amp section as well), the objective way is to compare the SNR values of the DAC section. Everything else will be subjective, which is also important, but not a way to compare the technical abilities of a DAC.
rdst_1
Juggernaut
Of course, the motherboard has a DAC. How else is it supporting a 3.5mm jack?
Mainak777
Forerunner
I don't believe in a DAC OR DAP OR DAC/AMP untill i audition or listen to it ..SNR value of DAC doesn't mean that you will like how does it sound..And when comparing comparing two DAC/AMP you just can't compare the SNR numbers..It's a objective way to compare two dac/amp with SNR but it doesn't help any real-world usage..with different DAC chips and different amps in the amp section the overall sound Signature and technicalities does change..
Ofcourse on paper you can say it have a dac but compared to a USB dac or like xonar stx it miles behind ..it can't drive his beyer dt 770 to full potential..
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You had to open the Pandora's box .. didn't you ?
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seems like KZ is literally scamming people in the name of multidriver iems. Lol. No wonder almost all their iems sound the same.
Naveen_Reloaded
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Complete noob here , i understand what DAC is .. converting digital to analog. I still cant wrap my head around seeing exorbitant prices around DAC.
I have a Tarang 2.1 Speaker(very old) for my desktop and they are doing damn good job , but will be upgrading them soon. I thought what is this DAC , and should i be needing them .. Here are my doubts
1. I do listen to good music occasionally , will DAC world of difference ?
2. As a starter , if i need to get into the world of DAC , what would be the best option ? Given that i will be going for similar 2.1 setup , but with better speakers.. at that time , do i need a DAC ? I will be connecting them to my desktop/laptop audio jack.
3. which input should i use to feed the DAC ? Jack /usb/bluetooth/SPDIF ?
I have a Tarang 2.1 Speaker(very old) for my desktop and they are doing damn good job , but will be upgrading them soon. I thought what is this DAC , and should i be needing them .. Here are my doubts
1. I do listen to good music occasionally , will DAC world of difference ?
2. As a starter , if i need to get into the world of DAC , what would be the best option ? Given that i will be going for similar 2.1 setup , but with better speakers.. at that time , do i need a DAC ? I will be connecting them to my desktop/laptop audio jack.
3. which input should i use to feed the DAC ? Jack /usb/bluetooth/SPDIF ?
If you do not currently have any issues with your desktop/laptop i.e. it is already a good clean source of your audio, then you really do not need one. Maybe better to invest in your speaker upgrade.