Health & Fitness COVID Vaccine Experience and your preference.

Which COVID Vaccine did you get or are planning to get

  • Already Received Covishield

    Votes: 104 67.5%

  • Already Received Covaxin

    Votes: 22 14.3%

  • Want to get Covishield

    Votes: 8 5.2%

  • Want to get Covaxin

    Votes: 4 2.6%

  • Want to get Sputnik V

    Votes: 5 3.2%

  • Want to get Pfizer,Moderna, other mRNA base Vaccines

    Votes: 12 7.8%

  • Already Received Pfizer , Moderna , other mRNA based vaccines

    Votes: 3 1.9%

  • Already Received Sputnik V

    Votes: 4 2.6%

  • Scared as hell to step out even for vaccine.

    Votes: 7 4.5%
  • Total voters
    154
alekhkhanna said:
Fuuuuuuuck. I am travelling soon to 3 of those 6 countries. :arghh:
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You could be stuck there for months depending on how things go

A friend of mine had some family members visiting Europe just when the last pandemic broke out. All the places you didn't want to be in. Italy, France & UK

They lingered in London a few days too many in March. Govt stopped flights from the UK by Mar 10

They could only return after mid June and that was after isolating at a govt hired hotel facility for two weeks.

They could not stand the food so my friend had to keep taking meals over.
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Milan Reports 50% of Passengers on China Flights Have Covid

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Milan Reports 50% of Passengers on China Flights Have Covid

(Bloomberg) -- Italian health authorities will begin testing all arrivals from China for Covid after almost half of the passengers on two flights to Milan were found to have the virus. Most Read from BloombergMilan Reports 50% of Passengers on China Flights Have CovidOne of World’s Most Crowded...
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This reminds some one troublesome news and gives a weird feeling...
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This is the question. Why are they allowing these people to board flights? do they want to reinfect the world again?

That way it won't be only their problem
 
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India gets its first case of new Covid variant that’s spreading fast in US

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What is Omicron XBB.1.5? India gets its first case of new Covid variant that’s spreading fast in US

Scientists have said that of all these, the XBB.1.5 variant is highly immune evasive and appears more effective at binding to cells than related subvariants. XBB.1.5, as per scientists, has a tighter bind to the ACE2 receptor, which is why it has increased levels of transmissibility.
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Scientists have said that of all variants, the XBB.1.5 variant is highly immune evasive and appears more effective at binding to cells than related subvariants. XBB.1.5, as per scientists, has a tighter bind to the ACE2 receptor, which is why it has increased levels of transmissibility.

Nobody stops people from USA because of this, so why to isolate China alone, probably that is the logic.
 
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India gets its first case of new Covid variant that’s spreading fast in US

www.businesstoday.in

What is Omicron XBB.1.5? India gets its first case of new Covid variant that’s spreading fast in US

Scientists have said that of all these, the XBB.1.5 variant is highly immune evasive and appears more effective at binding to cells than related subvariants. XBB.1.5, as per scientists, has a tighter bind to the ACE2 receptor, which is why it has increased levels of transmissibility.
www.businesstoday.in www.businesstoday.in

Scientists have said that of all variants, the XBB.1.5 variant is highly immune evasive and appears more effective at binding to cells than related subvariants. XBB.1.5, as per scientists, has a tighter bind to the ACE2 receptor, which is why it has increased levels of transmissibility.

Nobody stops people from USA because of this, so why to isolate China alone, probably that is the logic.
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Unless other countries put restrictions on people from China the system collapses. The restriction is easy to bypass as those people will just transit through another country.

Last time we got infected by people from the Gulf & Europe

The Omicron variant didn't cause many waves in India. I was surprised when last March there was no talk of lockdown like the year previous that Delta caused.

The difficult thing here is some variants spread more readily in some countries than in others. Just because that variant spreads in the US does not mean it will here. Like what causes trouble here won't necessarily do the same there. In a way, it causes a decoupling between countries that now have their own specific family tree variants and we fight our own battles with slightly different methods
 
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Banning countries won't help this time. The xbb mutation has no vaccine or they are still developing a new vaccine for it. Just think these 2 years went down the drain. The booster doses don't work on this mutation and there is talk of developing a new mixed dose vaccine. By the time that vaccine is ready, another new mutation will come out.
 
lalit agrawal said:
I personally feel booster is not needed. This wave is also similar to older omicron it will act as booster itself.
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Here i feel 4th dose is required. I probably got covid 4-5 times by now (all of them mild to moderate level) and got one attack after 3rd dose. I don't even fall sick in years and this thing is stuck to me like glue.

Everyone has probably got covid by now and those who don't show symptoms think they didn't get it.
 
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Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis


Conclusion: Immunoprofiling of vaccinated adolescents and young adults revealed that the mRNA vaccine–induced immune responses did not differ between individuals who developed myocarditis and individuals who did not. However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.

Not to dissuade anyone, in India we don't have mRNA vaccines yet, but for those who are interested in taking informed decisions.
 
TEUser2K1 said:
Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis


Conclusion: Immunoprofiling of vaccinated adolescents and young adults revealed that the mRNA vaccine–induced immune responses did not differ between individuals who developed myocarditis and individuals who did not. However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.

Not to dissuade anyone, in India we don't have mRNA vaccines yet, but for those who are interested in taking informed decisions.
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N is too small. Just 16. I wouldn't read much into it unless they get samples from thousands of participants, considering millions of mRNA vaccinated individuals are present.
Such small samples vs millions of individuals can cause major bias.
 
www.theguardian.com

China threatens ‘countermeasures’ over other countries’ Covid travel restrictions

US among several countries defending virus tests for China passengers as Beijing threatens to retaliate
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Countries including the US, UK, India, Japan and several European nations have announced tougher measures on travellers from China amid concerns over a lack of data on infections and fears of the possibility that new variants may emerge.

“We believe that the entry restrictions adopted by some countries targeting China lack scientific basis, and some excessive practices are even more unacceptable,” foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said at a briefing.

“We are firmly opposed to attempts to manipulate the Covid measures for political purposes and will take countermeasures based on the principle of reciprocity.”
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Cannot say others lack scientific basis when you refuse to provide data. Then says others are being political but that is how it spread the first time yes? and now is threatening countermeasures. Go ahead China and let's see how well that works out for you

CCP loves to play the victim card

This is exactly how Taiwan dealt with travellers from Wuhan starting Jan '20 by tracking them. Any symptoms meant quarantine. As a result, Taiwan had a very different experience compared to the rest of the world.
 
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> Cannot say others lack scientific basis when you refuse to provide data.

Yeah, only if world got full data about sponsored gain-of-function research from relevant teams.
And why freaking weird why Putin had to expose dozens of labs in border areas...
Whom to trust ? None !
 
TEUser2K1 said:
> Cannot say others lack scientific basis when you refuse to provide data.

Yeah, only if world got full data about sponsored gain-of-function research from relevant teams.
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This is how it began


He makes the case for a laboratory virus so they can be better prepared in the future if it happened

This research has allowed identification of genetic pathways by which such a virus could better adapt to transmission among people. This laboratory virus does not exist in nature. There is, however, considerable concern that such a virus could evolve naturally. We cannot predict whether it or something similar will arise naturally, nor when or where it might appear.

Given these uncertainties, important information and insights can come from generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory.
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WAPO has disabled the comments. but I remember a few that accused him of trying to play god and this was very risky.

Understanding the biology of influenza virus transmission has implications for outbreak prediction, prevention and treatment. In defining the mutations required for mammalian transmission, public health officials are provided with genetic signatures that, like fingerprints, could help scientists more readily identify newly emergent, potentially harmful viruses, track their spread and detect threatening outbreaks. The ability to identify such viruses even a few months faster than by conventional surveillance provides critical time to slow or stop an outbreak.
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Really ? that is not how things panned out is it? Dr. Fauci.
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And why freaking weird why Putin had to expose dozens of labs in border areas...
Whom to trust ? None !
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This one is a grey area. It's been entered into the record. This isn't quite the same thing though. I'd not be surprised if such labs existed in this country too with similar agreements like Ukraine had.
 
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> He makes the case for a laboratory virus so they can be better prepared in the future if it happened

So, the future happened and with all the secret labs and billions worth research, failed humanity in spectacular fashion beyond imagination.
And how people still have doubts about origin, will have brain fog with less IQ in future, almost effed up a generation.
 
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> He makes the case for a laboratory virus so they can be better prepared in the future if it happened

So, the future happened and with all the secret labs and billions worth research, failed humanity in spectacular fashion beyond imagination.
And how people still have doubts about origin, will have brain fog with less IQ in future, almost effed up a generation.
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Yeah, the Americans outsourced the testing and it came with an indemnity clause.

Notice how the entire medical fraternity circled the wagons and did not speak up. Go against Fauci and your medical career comes to an end. Worldwide.

Not even Trump could fire the guy because big pharma backs Fauci. He makes lots of money for them.

Nobody is responsible, nobody is accountable. The cost has been socialised to the tune of 5 million dead and counting

Are we doing it again

 
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Two weeks later where do we stand?

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Nothing so far
 
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That was NYC circa 2020. The positivity shot up because they were testing many people and you did not know what would happen. Would millions die?

No, after a peak in April '20 of finding 7 in 10 positive the downward trend started and by Jun was at 5% which is 5 out of 100 positive. Just two months later :oops:

I expect a similar trend in China.


The worst is over in China's metros, its the rural areas that are getting it now.
 
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