Delhi gangrape protests

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In an unusual order, the Supreme Court let off three gang rapists after they claimed a 'compromise formula' with the victim and agreed to pay her a fine of Rs 50,000 each for their offence.


A bench of justices Markandeya Katju and Gyan Sudha Mishra reduced to three and half years the 10-year sentence awarded to three gang rapists who took the plea that both the convicts and the victim were now happily married to different people and "wanted to live peacefully."


Under Section 376(G) of the IPC, the minimum sentence to the gang rapists is 10 years, which may extend even to life imprisonment.


Though Justice Gyan Sudha Mishra was not initially inclined to compound (close the case by way of fine)the matter as it was not a compoundable offence, the apex court later relented and agreed to let them off provided the convicts paid Rs 50,000 each to the victim.


The apex court ordered that " the amount shall be paid to the victim within three months", failing which the same shall be recovered under the Land Revenue Act from the trio and paid to the victim.

In this case, the convicts Baldev Singh, Gurmail Singh and Hardeep Singh, all said to be agricultural farmers, had gangraped the victim in Punjab's Ludhiana district on March 5, 1997.


The sessions court had awarded 10 years imprisonment to the convicts.


The Punjab and Haryana High Court had dismissed the convicts' appeal, following which they appealed in the apex court.

SC lets off gangrapists after they agreed to compensate victim - Indian Express

This was done to convicts last year.
 
Those who didnt help the girl when they saw girl lying on the road are not among the protestors and they can never be. They are sitting in their houses and busy watching their favorite programs. They will never protest for anybody.they only think about their peace, reputation and money.
 
This was done to convicts last year.

In the same post someone commented:

Indian law is very strange. In a PIL I have taken against a social worker in our area who has stolen Rs.One Lakh in 1984 ( at present value it can be Rs.25 Lakhs) which was meant to establish a museum for a local novelist ( a close friend and contemporary of Bankim Chandra Chatterjee) but that social worker has built a private club on a land that belongs to him as well. The High Court Chief Justice said it is a very old case, so nothing can be done and dismissed the case ( although there are every evidence, all documents, and all related persons are still alive).It is a very old case, because the local people spent years to make complaints to the Governors and Chief Ministers but without any result.This is the judicial system in India. It is not a surprise that a rape victims can get no justice at all from the Indian judges.

Most of the cases simply die because of the speed Indian judiciary work. Everything gets purchased. All the evidences and witnesses wither. Money for a life is one example of how people in power trivialize the society and bend the law.
 
A friend sent this over by mail. He didn't cite the source but may be some blog. A hell of a read nonetheless.

I believe this is the link to the original post - The Subjugation Capital « Oculus

This is quite rampant and common in New Delhi, and has become worse with Haryana being quite linked with Delhi. When one walks on the streets it can be seen and is visible. Just seeing a man's eyes following a lady is enough to tell. Sad. Out society is rotten and evil.
 
The more I think of this heinous crime, and the way the case is headed, the more I get confident of the fact that peaceful protests and candlelight marches will lead to nothing.
The mere act of a person putting a rod inside somebody's vagina, rupturing the uterus (and possibly adjoining organs) and then pulling out the intestines is nothing short of sickening to the deepest level. And it doesn't matter if the perpetrator is 17 years old or 70 years old. The commitment of the act means the person is mentally unstable and is capable of doing such crimes under rage/alcohol (perhaps even when he is sober). If he can attain enough physical maturity for raping and murdering a girl, he is mature enough to take the blame for it.
I know we are a "democracy" (more like a pseudo-democracy) and this will never happen, but I seriously wish they should experience themselves what they did to her. We can chat all we want in front of the computer, shout slogans all we want in front of the Parliament House, but unless the "civilized" barrier is broken, nothing will change. I just shudder at the thought of the pain she would have endured going through all of this. And inspite of such a hullaboo, the government is not able to reach a decision.
Unless and until a quick and a strong example is made of these rapists, such lethargy on govt's part will only serve as a boost to the other perpetrators nationwide.
If I'm sensitized enough to live in a country where such acts are occurring, I'm sensitized enough to demand similar rods be shoved in their bottom holes to make them feel the pain the poor girl must have gone through. I know a lot of "civilized" people will call me extreme, but I can bet the same "civilized" people would be on the streets demanding the same had this been committed to their mother/sister.
 
Damn, honestly, the rape was like a scene out of Auschwitz/Unit 731.

Also, the accused are Ram Singh (33, the main accused and the driver of the bus where the victim was gangraped and tortured), Pawan (19), Akshay(29), Vinay (20) and Mukesh (26). This excludes the 17-year old 'juvenile'. They're all currently on suicide watch.

"All five accused in the heinous gangrape and murder of a 23-year-old here are under "suicide watch" after they stopped interacting with other jail inmates and amongst themselves, officials said. Authorities in the Tihar Central Jail said the five - the sixth accused is a juvenile and lodged separately - were not even talking to one another or to others in their barracks.

"They just sit and brood," a jail source said. The "suicide watch", officials said, is an alert that the five could possibly harm themselves. A senior officer has been told to monitor their activities. "

"During a court hearing, Vinay, a gym instructor, told the judge he was not involved in the sexual assault but asked that he should be hanged."
 
Damn, honestly, the rape was like a scene out of Auschwitz/Unit 731.

Also, the accused are Ram Singh (33, the main accused and the driver of the bus where the victim was gangraped and tortured), Pawan (19), Akshay(29), Vinay (20) and Mukesh (26). This excludes the 17-year old 'juvenile'. They're all currently on suicide watch.

"All five accused in the heinous gangrape and murder of a 23-year-old here are under "suicide watch" after they stopped interacting with other jail inmates and amongst themselves, officials said. Authorities in the Tihar Central Jail said the five - the sixth accused is a juvenile and lodged separately - were not even talking to one another or to others in their barracks.

"They just sit and brood," a jail source said. The "suicide watch", officials said, is an alert that the five could possibly harm themselves. A senior officer has been told to monitor their activities. "

"During a court hearing, Vinay, a gym instructor, told the judge he was not involved in the sexual assault but asked that he should be hanged."

I'm sad at the fact that
"They are safe. There is no threat to them inside the jail," an officer said.
 
In other news...

SC commutes death penalty for man who brutally killed 65-year-old woman, raped and stabbed pregnant granddaughter-in-law - The Times of India

There is no concept of exemplary punishment in India and that is why atrocious things like these happen and will continue to happen. Such crimes happen because of this sort of assurance given by our judiciary system. Redemption is not possible for all criminals that punishments should be awarded in such cases to set an example for others rather than to reform the criminal. The very fact that a person is given less punishment because he is under the influence of alcohol sets my blood boiling. Why exactly is that an excuse? alcohol merely brings out the true nature of the person out into the open. if anything, the punishment shoud be much higher for crimes committed under the influence of alcohol.

The convict, Sandesh Abhang, had stabbed the old woman 21 times, severed four fingers of one hand and chopped off the other wrist. He then raped her granddaughter-in-law, stabbed her 19 times, including in her neck, and left believing her to be dead. He later boasted to his friends that he had killed two women and was not afraid of anyone.

He actually boasted to his friends about his crimes and probably the boasting was after he was out of the influence of alcohol. yet the the highest court of our country deemed it fit to commute his death sentence. So now it is alright to commit any crime after you consume alcohol. No wonder he was not a bit afraid of anyone.

When people cannot respect the law, they should be controlled with fear. If anyone deserved one of the most brutal forms of Chinese public torture and execution done by boring a hole in the culprits skull and pouring mercury drop by drop till dead, it is these there sort of criminals. The shrieks and cries of plain that fill the air would instill fear in everyone of one needs to face for such crimes.
 
alcohol merely brings out the true nature of the person out into the open.

Not necessarily. Sometimes it just muddles the 'true nature' (whatever that is) of a person.

But, I agree with the spirit of what you've said.

The only problem with enforcing torture/the death penalty is that you have to be absolutely certain that the convicted criminals are guilty.
 
The more I think of this heinous crime, and the way the case is headed, the more I get confident of the fact that peaceful protests and candlelight marches will lead to nothing.
The mere act of a person putting a rod inside somebody's vagina, rupturing the uterus (and possibly adjoining organs) and then pulling out the intestines is nothing short of sickening to the deepest level. And it doesn't matter if the perpetrator is 17 years old or 70 years old.

Precisely. a few months here or there wont let that 'juvenile' grow a brain. If anything, it seems the govt is giving the signals that commit all the heineous crimes before you turn an adult, and you ll be just fine.

I wonder what had been the reaction from the govt if (God forbids) a minister's daughter had been mauled and raped like this.
Bloody ghooskhor and kaamchors havent got anything else to do than duck the questions, decisions.. subsidized cateen ka khana/petrol etc is what is necessary.
 
Not necessarily. Sometimes it just muddles the 'true nature' (whatever that is) of a person.

Sorry, I don't think alcohol muddles the 'true nature' of a person. It merely prevents the persons self control from hiding his true nature and true feelings. Anything that goes in their brain directly translates into their words and often actions in such a state.

For instance a person may not like his boss and really wants to kick him, but he controls his thoughts and acts nice to his boss. That is not his true feeling. When he is sufficiently drunk, he is probably going to go ahead and tell his friends that he really wants to kick his boss, but some others don't stop there and actually go ahead and kick their boss. He always had the thought of kicking his boss and that is his true feeling. if he actually went ahead and kicked him, that is his true nature. The alcohol merely removed the inhibitor that is stopping him from hiding his true self. Regardless of the case, would his boss excuse him because he did it under the influence of drink? So why should alcohol influence be a factor that lessens the crime rather than one that increases it.
 
^^ Yes, but your true nature would also include your ability to resist primal/instinctive violent/incorrect urges. Hence it distorts your true nature. How is wanting to control your actions not part of your true nature? There is a confusion here between the words 'instinctive/primal' and 'true'. You're making a case for one side of the point. I'm trying to make it more inclusive.

And I don't agree with a person being a given a lesser sentence because they were drunk because they made the choice to get drunk knowing full well the consequences of being inebriated.
 
^^ Yes, but your true nature would also include your ability to resist primal/instinctive violent/incorrect urges. Hence it distorts your true nature. How is wanting to control your actions not part of your true nature? There is a confusion here between the words 'instinctive/primal' and 'true'. You're making a case for one side of the point. I'm trying to make it more inclusive.

My point is that if a person does something drastic under the influence of alcohol, a similar behavior can be replicated from the same person using some other conditions as well even in their full consciousness. i.e to say people capable of murder under influence of alcohol are capable of murder even without alcohol. In most cases the only thing preventing them is fear of the consequences, not their morals or anything else. When drunk, the sub-consciousness is only putting a conscious thought into action.

Primal instincts are something entirely different and I do agree that they are hard to control even with a fully conscious mind leave lone without that. But such instincts are influenced by very basic needs of a person as just another living animal and do not usually result in complicated and meticulously done crimes whether it is under the influence of alcohol or not.

For instance take the example of the case I posted earlier. He stabbed a old women 21 times, cut of her fingers and elbow, then went on to rape a pregnant girl and stabbed her 19 times. It doesn't look like he has any motive. Do you think there is any role of primal instincts? What base need was he fulfilling with his brutality. Was alcohol even a factor in the crime? A normal person would be shit scared enough after unintentionally hurting someone even under the influence of drink. But this guy would most likely have committed the crime even without the alcohol. IMO, the brutality was a manifestation of his conscious mind.

The same applies to Nirbhaya case as well. The brutality of this case is well beyond imagination. It seems most of the news papers in India have been asked/forced to shield the readers from the real extent of the brutality. As I got it from various sources, these criminals have pushed a metal rod though the poor girls genitals, ruptured most of the internal organs in the abdomen and pulled her intestines out side. They had absolutely had no intention of letting the girl live and the brutality was beyond measure. It is not merely a case of brutal rape, it a case of utterly sadistic and intentional torture and murder. I don't for a moment believe that alcohol has any sort of influence on their actions. They would most likely have committed such a crime or a spree of crimes even in full consciousness sooner or later.
 
I sincerely apologize for bringing up another rape case.

The reason I am bringing up this old case is because this was one case that had the people (of Mumbai) outraged, also raised a finger on the role of bystanders and the media. This was also a case that made me think at that point that things will change for the better.

Salim Alim Shamsher Shaikh vs The State Of Maharashtra on 23 June, 2010

The rape occurred in a Local train in front of 5 commuters one of which happened to be 'Ambarish Mishra' a TOI reporter on 14th August 2002. None of them did anything to help the victim and the reporter at the time of rape was shamelessly taking notes of details to mention in his report.

This case really scares me to some extent and at the same time makes very angry because I live in a City where people have no soul, no shame and no guts. Mr.Mishra is still employed with TOI which speaks volumes about how the present day society works.

Soon someone will take a broom and sweep the Delhi Gangrape case under a rug and we will wake up amnesic about the case.
 
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