Delhi gangrape protests

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A 17-year-old was beaten up and kidnapped by three men, who intended to rape her, from outside a mall on the Delhi-Ghaziabad border on December 29 afternoon. That was the day when the 23-year-old gangrape victim died in Singapore and Delhi Police deployed more than 20,000 personnel across Delhi


The girl is a class 12 student of an east Delhi private school. The Maruti Swift Dzire car in which the crime took place is owned by a senior official in public works department (PWD), whose office is in the building housing the Delhi Police headquarters, said a source.


The victim was rescued and the accused nabbed in a three-hour-long police operation. What was surprising was that they were not stopped at check points.


It was the alertness of an onlooker that saved the day. He swiftly made a PCR call about the incident even as another witness posted the information on social networking websites, following which 25 PCR calls were made till late in the night.


What is more astonishing is that even though the victim was kidnapped after being molested in public view, the UP police booked the accused under a milder Section 294 (obscene act in any public place) of the IPC as opposed to pressing kidnapping and molestation charges..
Girl molested, abducted in public view, cops slap obscenity charges - Hindustan Times




What .. did the guys got some catalyst with the girl's death or do they interpret the recent emotions running across as some kinda Go! signal ???
 
Delhi govt. or rather say whole Indian govt. rarely want to do anything for girls..they only believe girls should stick within their home or should go everywhere with their so called family..they cant make India a better place for living..they can only beat people and children and youngsters too..
 
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I hope this is isn't real .. coz if it is she should be thrown in with the lot of criminals ..
Rape isn't a sexual act but a violent one .. the issue isn't of male perversion but of gender violence.

Is Sherlyn Chopra willing to under go the same assault that the Delhi Victim underwent ..
there are no boundaries between rape and aggravated violence ..

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I hope this is isn't real .. coz if it is she should be thrown in with the lot of criminals ..
Rape isn't a sexual act but a violent one .. the issue isn't of male perversion but of gender violence.

Is Sherlyn Chopra willing to under go the same assault that the Delhi Victim underwent ..
there are no boundaries between rape and aggravated violence ..
 
Having spent an hour reading different news articles on Hindustan Times (after visiting this thread again when I promised myself I won't come back here) I can just say that it is immensely sad and heart-breaking what happened.

Being a brother myself (and probably a father in 5-10 years), I cannot even begin to imagine the anguish and the pain of the family members.

Though it is sad and maybe morbid on my part, but there's always a thought in the back of my head that says that it is probably for the better that girl did not live. It would have been a life of physical and mental pain. No amount of treatment could help her forget the hellish experience she went through. Even physically, she would have been on a liquid diet for almost her entire life, if the newspaper article I read was correct. Am I totally wrong in thinking so? :(

I salute her braveness with all my heart and really pray that this helps in preventing such heinous crimes in the future. God bless her soul!
 
A friend sent this over by mail. He didn't cite the source but may be some blog. A hell of a read nonetheless.

Having pontificated for two days over the tornado of protests that have hit Delhi, I found time to contemplate if I *really* knew what they were protesting about. So I asked someone who has lived there and experienced the alternating splendor and horror of Delhi; my wife. This is what she had to say.

I love Delhi, the city. I love its wide, open roads, its wonderful architecture. I’ve made great friends in Delhi. I went to a wonderful school in Delhi. I’ve also suffered in Delhi. I’m one of millions of women with tales to tell of how Delhi has ground our self-respect and security to dust. General descriptions of harassment can’t adequately describe the horror a woman faces every day in the city. There isn’t a single moment when you’re walking its streets that you can think “I’m safe, I can breathe easy and enjoy the sunshine. What a lovely day!” If you have breasts, you’re fair game. It doesn’t matter who you are, where you’re from, how old you are, you can be a man’s property. You can be used for his gratification. You can be dominated.

I don’t want to recount the hundreds of times I’ve been groped in crowds in Delhi. Hands moving over you, pinching your bottom, rubbing your breasts as you desperately try to find some inch of ground that will be safe. Women routinely carry sharp objects like needles and drawing instruments to dissuade such attacks but there are too many incidents to deal with.

Once, while attending a wedding in Delhi, I was at a friend’s place and was about to leave for the venue. I called the bride’s mom to tell her I’ll walk down to the venue and I heard an unmistakable sense of terror creep into her voice. She dropped the bonhomie and almost shouted at me to stay where I was. She would send a car. I laughed and told her that she was being ridiculous. Her response was that of anger. “Stay where you are. DON’T MOVE! I’m sending a car. DO NOT walk alone, especially all dressed up. There’s no telling what might happen.” The venue was two blocks away in Southex, a very posh part of Delhi. It was five thirty in the evening and it was broad daylight.

I accompanied my friend’s relatives to a function at Pragati Maidan. With us was her 70 year-old grandmother. The lady was a widow, dressed in the characteristic white sari. She hobbled on a walking stick. The ground was crowded and dusty. As we made our way through the crowd, a young adolescent boy shoved his hand between her legs. He felt up a seventy year old woman hobbling on a walking stick. We were unable to reconcile this incident with any semblance of logic or sense. Why did this happen? Just. It was a female with female parts, which of course are the property of every human in Delhi blessed with a penis.

As a student in Delhi, I’d attend tuitions literally across the road from where we stayed. The proprietor was a burly man with a shy fourteen year old son. Every evening, after classes dispersed, it was that young boy’s job to make sure we girls safely crossed the street. That’s all. He’d just stand outside the gate and make sure we crossed a distance of fifty feet safely. He wasn’t worried about us being hit by cars. He was making sure we didn’t get molested. If a mob of men had shown up, the poor boy wouldn’t stand a chance. And yet, he’d be there every evening, standing alert and looking responsible for us.

If you think misogyny and sexism are the refuge of the rich and powerful alone, think again. As I sat in a car in Delhi, a beggar came up to my window, begging for alms. A pathetic creature shod in tatters. He saw that I was a woman and suddenly his demeanor changed. His face lit up in an evil sneer and he started flicking his tongue in and out. I was so stunned I laughed. Here’s this pathetic creature with no food or clothes to sustain him but so desperate was his sexual need and so fearless his demeanor that it trumped all else. A woman can be ****ed. Should be ****ed. Oh, and can I also have some money for food?

Delhi’s sexist culture is a festering cesspool that permeates its families. A friend of mine lived in a joint family in a palatial house. Rich, educated folk. I remember we were nine year old girls, hanging out at her house, playing with Barbie dolls. Her younger male cousins barged in and started creating a ruckus. We shooed them away, treating them as a nuisance but they had a stunning response up their sleeve. These boys brought their GI Joe figurines and said “hum tumhare Barbies ka rape karenge”. We were stunned. These were six or seven year old boys. They probably didn’t even know what rape was. They didn’t even know how it was done. But they knew it can be used to teach women a lesson. They must’ve heard their fathers and uncles talk about putting women in their place. “Zyaada bak bak karegi toh uska rape kar denge.” This is also why I find casual remarks or jokes about rape extremely unfunny.

This dehumanization of being, steady erosion of self-respect, the constant looking over your shoulder no matter where you are, is what makes Delhi such a horrible place for women. There are some well-reasoned arguments why we shouldn’t trivialize the larger issues surrounding rape by laying blame at the doorstep of one city alone, but there’s a reason for this insidious association; it breeds and lives on the fear that power creates. Let’s just call Delhi the capital of subjugation. I also need to mention that I’ve never felt this CONSTANTLY afraid in any other city in India. You can quote examples of rapes in Mumbai, Kolkata, or other cities and you’d have a point. This pathetic patriarchal culture pervades India, but there’s no other place quite like Delhi where patriarchy and power mingle to create a sense of male entitlement.

I saw pictures of these young girls standing their ground getting beaten up, screaming in the cops’ faces. Learned pundits question why. What is the point of this protest anyway? What do they want? It’s a pity they can’t even see this basic point. They want to be treated as humans again. I read about the rape in Delhi and the anger in me has refused to go away. Memories of those years of harassment came flooding back. If you’re a woman in Delhi, you’ve been groped and violated five times a day since you were eight. Since you were too young to even know what breasts are and what they can do to men. My years in Delhi exacted a heavy price from me. I’d instinctively step back when a man entered my personal space. This instinct finally started ebbing away after I moved to Pune. Even there, I’d instantly be on my guard, alert and tense, when a man looked over my shoulder as I worked on the laptop. This was because of Delhi and it took years for it to go away.
When you’d get molested for the first time you’d come back tearfully to tell your mother or the other grown women in your family. “Kya karein beta, aisa hi hota hai”. What can you do, this is how it is. That crushing realization as an eight year old girl that you’re somehow going to have to deal with this for the rest of your life. Groped by the domestic help, groped by the boy who delivers the groceries, groped by your uncle. Never being able to step out unless you have a “man” accompanying you. Men, who deal with the status quo without changing it. Men, who ironically feel a greater sense of entitlement by being the “protectors” of their women. This feeling is what that girl in the protest is screaming against.
I’m still angry when I see those pictures because I haven’t moved on. I’m angrier when I read men lamenting about what ails us. Here’s a reality check: if you’re a man, you don’t know what the **** you’re talking about. You have NO IDEA what it’s like to live a life that doesn’t belong to you. I understand your sympathy but have no use for it.

I’m angrier when I read scholarly articles about civil society, better governance and societal and infrastructural reforms. I read words like five years and “long term” and seethe. Of course one wants to live in a civil society that believes in redemption and the rehabilitation of its worst members but you have no bloody idea what you’re dealing with in Delhi. These are men who operate on an animal instinct. You need a brutal deterrent, employed continuously and consistently in the short term to let them know we mean business. When you’re cornered by a wolf snarling and baring its fangs do you lecture it on the sanctity of life? No, you react. If I could come face to face with these brave men of Delhi who tormented me, I’d shoot them between the eyes. Even today, if a man stares at me a moment longer than necessary I have this visceral urge to rip his eyes out.

So **** you and your calls for long term change. Don’t waste my time talking about the next five years. Tell me what you’re going to do in the next five hours when your mother, sister or wife leaves the safety of her home and wades into the filthy muck of the city, telling herself that there’s a distinct possibility she may not come home unviolated or even alive.

Edit from Mommysan – Thank you so much for your comments and concern. I want to clarify that not all of the examples of harassment or abuse I mentioned in the post involved me directly. The incidents in the latter half of the post involve people close to me. For example, I know the 8 year old who tearfully complained to her mother about harassment for the first time, because I was present in the room with her. I know someone who’s faced abuse at the hands of family members. The point of this post isn’t to dwell on specific examples alone, but to communicate the extent to which a woman’s liberties are disrespected. It’s to highlight how such horrifying incidents get swept under the sanitized terms “molestation” and “eve-teasing”, which dulls their severity and impairs understanding of the circumstances that enable them. The examples you’ve so courageously shared in the comments will also go a long way in this regard.
 
Too sad hearing about delhi, its much better here in bhilai, here i see lots of girls hanging out partying in streets/cafes/ restros/ street shops without any fear, some times they beat the boys count also :O
 
I obviously think that rape is a heinous crime. But the problem with the aftermath of such incidents is that it fuels the fire of feminazis. No, I'm not talking about those women who want true equality and unbiased laws. I'm talking about radical feminist,misandrist b**ches who hate men and utilize every opportunity/incident to diss them. Women who think that a single rape (which is digusting by itself) is more heinous than all the wars of the world, every atrocity ever committed and that a woman's rights are more important than a human's rights (irrespective of the gender of the human). For example, "All men are perverted animals and should not be allowed out after 10PM" would be a typical feminazi statement. Also, a lot of Indian men are morons. They support women blindly even if the woman is actually at fault.

I'm all for woman's rights. I'm also all for men's rights. Whatever happened to true equality?

This doesn't go out to women who are genuinely unbiased and are fighting for their cause which is admirable.

Although, there should be better policing, better laws and swift and precise delivery of justice; I hope the balance of power remains.....well balanced. Some women report false rapes too and in some cases the assailant is wrongly identified. In such cases, I hope the laws don't become too one sided and (potentially) victimise innocent men.
 
@Gannu.. i had chills in my spine when i read the article.. Something has to be done.. and fast!
 
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I obviously think that rape is a heinous crime. But the problem with the aftermath of such incidents is that it fuels the fire of feminazis. No, I'm not talking about those women who want true equality and unbiased laws. I'm talking about radical feminist,misandrist b**ches who hate men and utilize every opportunity/incident to diss them. Women who think that a single rape (which is digusting by itself) is more heinous than all the wars of the world, every atrocity ever committed and that a woman's rights are more important than a human's rights (irrespective of the gender of the human). For example, "All men are perverted animals and should not be allowed out after 10PM" would be a typical feminazi statement. Also, a lot of Indian men are morons. They support women blindly even if the woman is actually at fault.

I'm all for woman's rights. I'm also all for men's rights. Whatever happened to true equality?

This doesn't go out to women who are genuinely unbiased and are fighting for their cause which is admirable.

I partially agree with your statement. People want *RIGHTS* these days, but no one wants *EQUALITY*. They want to be on top of other or below, but never standing side by side.

As much as I hate misogynists, I also don't like the "White Knights", who think feminism is better than humanism. These are the people who think that even looking at a woman is an evil thing to do.
 
Just watched movie "I Spit on Your Grave"

This crime will disappear the same day when culprits will treated as shown in the movie, terrified watching it :scared14:
 
Just watched movie "I Spit on Your Grave"

This crime will disappear the same day when culprits will treated as shown in the movie, terrified watching it :scared14:

Yeah, I watched "Karan Arjun", "Dabangg" and "Ghajini" too. Crimes would disappear as soon as people start doing what's shown in the movie.
 
@Gannu - Great blog post. Having stayed in Haryana, Delhi and U.P., I can attest to the fact that she is speaking the truth. And this attitude is inculcated since quite an early age.

I was shocked to my core when I first moved to Haryana and saw that 12-13 year old classmates (boys) of mine used to try to feel up girls and look up their skirts when they were sitting in their desks or standing on any sort of a platform. While most girls were aware of this, the worst part was that a few girls were oblivious to this (and didn't realise it was happening) and me being new couldn't exactly go up to them and warn them. :(
 
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^Seems right. That blog is also featured on WP Freshly Pressed: https://twitter.com/freshly_pressed

I don’t want to recount the hundreds of times I’ve been groped in crowds in Delhi. Hands moving over you, pinching your bottom, rubbing your breasts as you desperately try to find some inch of ground that will be safe. Women routinely carry sharp objects like needles and drawing instruments to dissuade such attacks but there are too many incidents to deal with.

This is a common problem in Kolkata too especially at Howrah and Sealdah railway station during the office hours. A crowded bus in Kolkata is another place where such people lurk. Incidentally, most of the time such people are in the age bracket of 40-50.
 
"Power will go to rascals, rogues, freebooters. . . . All leaders will be of low caliber & men of straw. . . They'll have sweet tongues & silly hearts. . . They will fight amongst themselves for power & the two countries will be lost in political squabbles. . . . A day would come when even air & water will be taxed."

Winston Churchill - 64 yrs ago ??????
 
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