Front loading or top loading washing machine?

lockhrt999 said:
Yeah. :) I was super surprised. I don't think I need pre wash for most of the washing.
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Prewash is used to remove any extra dirt there might be on the clothes. That is not the purpose here
lockhrt999 said:
Yesterday I washed a 70L camping bag and another 40L backpack in the machine. Put them in the these laundry bags. Maybe @nRiTeCh could also use them.
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What program did you use?


I thought some of the suggestions this repair guy mentioned are interesting. Won't apply for top loaders but the decision to use a delicate cycle over a regular program decreases wear and tear on the machine. Not do as many as you can fit in the machine but few or just one at a time because the wet load will be less and this in turn puts less stress on the bearings and spider if you then use the slowest spin speed.

He's got a thing against powder detergent because he's had to fix machines where people didn't use a suitable detergent designed for the machine.
 
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nRiTeCh said:
I didnt got the logic of putting stuff and washing? Wouldn't only the exposed aka outside area get washed while the inside-folded ones will be a compromises?
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Even though your logic is sound, that really doesn't happen. Stuff gets clean inside out. Maybe that has to do with how FL washes the clothes. Bags come out looking spanking new.

nRiTeCh said:
Also, what if we wash them without the bag? Any fabric damage?
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YOLO.
 
nRiTeCh said:
Also, what if we wash them without the bag? Any fabric damage?
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If you fold the blanket as shown above it will take up less space. If you use the highest water level then there will not be any damage.

If there is a delicates program on your machine that allows manually setting the highest water level, try that.

Now, whether you are satisfied with the cleaning quality of these settings is for you to tell us.
lockhrt999 said:
I use 'synthetics' for bags. It takes longer so I suppose it's a delicate cycle.
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There is more wash action with the synthetics than with the delicates program. Which does a turn every minute or so.

I think the prewash would be a good idea with the camping bag as there will be air pockets in it that would prevent detergent from entering. This would not be the case if it was already wet from a prewash cycle.

To get an idea, just run the machine empty and video the wash cycle, you will then be able to review later at a faster speed and really understand the difference.
 
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blr_p said:
That's what surprises me. Do you mean to say there was no option to find LG or Samsung in the stores in Nagpur? IFB people will naturally tell you service is crap for those brands.
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I was more concerned with ASS. I didn't knew of anyone in NGP who can give his feedback on LG service at this location. Mind youz my location is still far off from the main city. Also, given its a rurban area, the priority is on the lower side. And No!! I didn't take any feedback from IFB about how is LG's service. It's obvious they will tell me bad things.


blr_p said:
want a drum measurement for this 7kg ZSS of yours. Diameter and depth in cm, please

And a photo of the underneath without the rat trap, so we can confirm this thing, does not have a sealed tub
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It's a sealed drum, confirmed from IFB. All models have sealed drum.
Diameter is common across all FL at 320mm. Depth is 26cm.
 
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
I was more concerned with ASS. I didn't knew of anyone in NGP who can give his feedback on LG service at this location. Mind youz my location is still far off from the main city. Also, given its a rurban area, the priority is on the lower side. And No!! I didn't take any feedback from IFB about how is LG's service. It's obvious they will tell me bad things.
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Very good
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
It's a sealed drum, confirmed from IFB. All models have sealed drum.
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I'd like a visual confirmation of that if possible. We assumed Sammy sealed their tubs also until @lockhrt999 disproved it.
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Diameter is common across all FL at 320mm. Depth is 26cm.
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Depth is ok but the diameter needs a recheck its too small at 32cm

Measure diameter at its widest
 
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lockhrt999 said:
I don't think I need pre wash for most of the washing.
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What about soaking then? a pre-wash is supposed to be as good as soaking as it trades time for mechanical action.

Soaking and prewashing are equivalent in terms of purpose. One takes longer than the other in a front loader where not much water is used so prewash can be used.

In a top loader, you likely get more bang for the buck with a soak for the water consumed than a prewash. This is why you generally don't see a prewash detergent compartment in top loaders.

I'm inclined to think soaking in warm water with enzymes will lighten stains better than prewashing in cooler water.
 
blr_p said:
What about soaking then? a pre-wash is supposed to be as good as soaking as it trades time for mechanical action.

Soaking and prewashing are equivalent in terms of purpose. One takes longer than the other in a front loader where not much water is used so prewash can be used.

In a top loader, you likely get more bang for the buck with a soak for the water consumed than a prewash. This is why you generally don't see a prewash detergent compartment in top loaders.

I'm inclined to think soaking in warm water with enzymes will lighten stains better than prewashing in cooler water.
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You're right. It's as good as soaking. But I don't need it because my clothes aren't that soiled.
 
It's too small. Do you understand what I'm asking for here? put your hands inside the drum and measure the diameter at the widest inside the drum

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A 6kg Sammy or Bosch from a few years ago has a diameter of 46-48 cm

lockhrt999 said:
Received my samsung front loader. Drum volume is ~70L (26r, 33h). It's made in India. I was under the impression that these are made in Vietnam.
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Just the radius of a Sammy 7kg measured at 26cm
 
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Kaleen Bhaiya said:
At its widest, it is 50 cm.
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Right, so the IFB 7kg is around 50L which is what I was expecting for a belt-driven machine with a depth of 62 cm
Kaleen Bhaiya said:
Didn't find much difference with my 6 kg lg FL.
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Your IFB drum is 6cm deeper. Does not seem like a lot but it translates into a volume that is 12-14 litres larger. Compared to the Sammy which is a further 6cm deeper. I was expecting depth to be more but maybe you only get that with 8kg IFB machines.

The depth of your 6kg LG machine is 45cm and would have an internal volume of just 36-38 litres with a drum depth of no more than 20cm.

Now, how about a photo of the underneath showing the tub? so we can confirm whether it is sealed or not
 
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lockhrt999 said:
:p set a timer, turn on the flash and slid it under the machine.
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What if my phone gets trapped beneath the machine? :banghead:
Anyways, the shop rep has confirmed that their machines have sealed drums. I take his word.
IFB needs to make money and this is one of the ways to push customers to get new ones should the old machine go bad.
 
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