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Avoid LG front loaders with touchscreen panels as they're known to fail. Search LG touchscreen problem on youtube for more details.
I live on the top floor so the water tank is one floor above.How high is your water tank from the floor where the machine will be used?
This actually changed how I'm looking at things now. I originally thought more kg capacity meant bigger drum. Boy, I have been wrong. The KG capacity only means power of the motor. If I'm not wrong, diameter of the drum is same for all capacities. Only length of the drum (ie depth of the machine) changes. I think some companies are using same drum for 6-8 kg models. It's a good suggestion to load up the clothes by looking at how much drum volume they fill instead of relying on weight.These machines have a depth of 45cm. You want a depth of 55cm and no less.
I have experience with LG panels. The touch membrane of my LG oven stopped working. No spares available. I shorted the relay responsible for microwave mode and used the oven in always on mode for more than 7 years.With touch panels on LG's those give trouble is less than 5 requiring opening the panel and replacing pads. Course they will tell you to change the whole panel which if you read earlier posts isn't necessary.
I'm already doing that with current machine. I was expecting companies might have added longer soaking functionality by now.1. You can soak as long as you want but it requires intervention. So once you load up the machine, select the pre-wash modifier, let the water fill and soap mix. Halfway through the prewash cycle or 2.5 mins later, switch it off at the mains. Simulate a power cut. Now soak as long as you want and then resume the power.
If the machine can handle a normal jeans then it's fine for me already. My current machine does very poor job washing normal jeans. I agree some stains will need specialized treatment. Thanks for sharing the vanish pdf. It seems I don't know a few things.2. Clean thoroughly is a question of the stain and appropriate pre-treatment. All the machine does is agitate clothes. It's not a miracle worker. You need an understanding of the kind of stain, its chemistry (see attached) and then use appropriate pre-treatment if necessary so it comes out clean. Enzymes are already present in Ariel & Surf which is why they caution not to use them with woollens. Enzymes will eat natural fibres like wool. But it's important to wash at a minimum of 40 degrees so enzymes can be fully activated. Oxidising is what Vanish does depending on the stain. Builders also are present and will take care of mud stains or particulate. Greasy stains are also handled by the detergent.
I already have citric acid crystals. Never knew this can be done.4. I always discourage the use of fabric conditioners because it just leads to smell problems later. All models have a compartment to use and it typically is dispensed during the last rinse cycle. Make your own with citric acid crystals. 20% concentration with water in a bottle. Shake well so it is completely dissolved. Use 10ml per wash.
Aye aye captain. Higher RPM has diminishing returns.2. Use 400rpm if humidity is less than 60% and 800 rpm above. Skip the higher speeds as that just increases wear and tear on the bearings. Higher rpms are useful if you are going to put the clothes into a dryer which you will not do anyway. See here for more
I don't like this lady. Indian youtubers have habit of presenting spec sheet as their own personal experience.Still there are people who prefer them like this lady.
Good to know. I already have levelled the tiles below washing machine using spirit level.5. Machines usually come with rat screens these days.
It's not motor rpm but spin speed which is listed on the panel.I live on the top floor so the water tank is one floor above.
Also, where do you get all these details like motor rpm, drum volume, whether the drum is sealed, etc? I was looking at this on LG's website and can find none of these details on there.
Most of it is thanks to the people who run the ukwhitegoods website. It's advice from the pov of the repair man. You can learn all you want there. eg. this is about washing machines. They have lots of guides for other whitegoods. This is the best place I've found that cuts through a lot of BS and gives it to you straight.That's some unreal amount of knowledge right there. Thanks for taking time @blr_p
Or you can sort your laundry into whites and colours for the whole family by getting some wash baskets and just run full loads.Your suggestion on using washing less often to preserve the life of the machine is correct. When I use the machine, I usually do whole week's laundry at once. I can tell other family member to do the same.
In the US, washing machines are sold by cubic foot ie. volume not by weight like they are in the rest of the world Their machines are double the volume capacity we get here but I found volume a much more intuitive way to figure out machine size. You can use a packing box and put your clothes in to understand what your requirement is in terms of volume. kg is the ISO way of doing it and is unintuitive.This actually changed how I'm looking at things now. I originally thought more kg capacity meant bigger drum. Boy, I have been wrong. The KG capacity only means power of the motor. If I'm not wrong, diameter of the drum is same for all capacities. Only length of the drum (ie depth of the machine) changes. I think some companies are using same drum for 6-8 kg models. It's a good suggestion to load up the clothes by looking at how much drum volume they fill instead of relying on weight.
The fix for a touch panel is like a keypad of a cordless phone. If you can access underneath the touch panel you can fix it the same way. Why not try to fix your LG oven? Then you will have the confidence to fix the LG washing machine when its touchpanel also breaks.I have experience with LG panels. The touch membrane of my LG oven stopped working. No spares available. I shorted the relay responsible for microwave mode and used the oven in always on mode for more than 7 years.
A simpler way without pulling the power is to push the pause button. But with my machine, this does not work. After a while, it just drains out the water. That is why I came up with the power trick.I'm already doing that with current machine. I was expecting companies might have added longer soaking functionality by now.
Because its a top loader I guess. The clothes get swirled around instead of being tossed around. To clean jeans in a top loader you will have to add more jeans so they rub against each other. In a front loader, this happens by default.If the machine can handle a normal jeans then it's fine for me already. My current machine does very poor job washing normal jeans. I agree some stains will need specialized treatment. Thanks for sharing the vanish pdf. It seems I don't know a few things.
Credit for the idea goes to a Japanese youtuber. But I don't think this will do what you expect from a fabric conditioner.I already have citric acid crystals. Never knew this can be done.
Oh! I find her one of the better ones. She likes her washer dryer. She likes putting clothes in at night and taking out dry clothes in the morning. The thing is I can't post comments with links in her channel as google keeps deleting them, thinking they are spam (!)I don't like this lady. Indian youtubers have habit of presenting spec sheet as their own personal experience.
They use steam at 60 degrees. It's billed as anti-germ in India. We already know washing in any soap kills viruses but to kill bacteria nothing short of boiling works. And you can kill bacteria with laundry sanitisers like Dettol provided you can hold that last rinse cycle long enough. Well, many machines don't come with rinse hold these days so I don't know how you do it with them. Needs a 20-minute soak at least. Normally the rinse cycle only lasts about 6 minutes. That is not enough dwell time for a biocide to do its work.1. Many models now include steam cleaning. Is it any useful or just a gimmick?
What put me off with IFB early on was the number of service complaints I found online about them. Back in the 200s they had a collaboration with Bosch and made good stuff then that partnership ended and Bosch went its own way having learnt enough from the experience about the Indian market. The result is people shifted from IFB to Bosch. So IFB has to offer double the warranty to hold on to and incentivise sales with discounts. I know people who swear by IFB but they are going by older experience. Parts and service is available if you're in a tier 1 city. The question is how often do you need those parts. What struck me with the complaints was the reliability of IFB in comparison to foreign brands.2. If I go by online number of ratings, I think LG is selling slightly more units than Samsung. Again it may not be correct because companies reuse their old listings that already had high reviews. But, is one better than the other in terms of quality and service? Or either is okay to go with? I have bad experience with both of these brands (not washing machine though). And how is IFB compared to koreans?
I usually keep dirty clothes in a basket and only put them in the machine when there is enough. I've never kept dirty dry clothes in the machine. I think airing them helps reduce the smells which would otherwise remain if kept in a confined space. If there is any liquid spills this is definitely better.3. Can we keep dry clothes in front loading machine for a few days? I know top loading drums are suspended by springs so it might not be ideal for them but what about front loaders?. I was thinking to keep loading the machine until it reaches like 50% drum before starting the cycle.
My machine is a 7kg. So the older ones that are 55 litres should be ok. You asked about soaking, This machine has a 'bubble soak' option according to this review. I can actually read the options on the real machine whereas on amazon you only see icons. Apparently, it soaks for 30 minutes. Good enough? no need to fiddle with the power.4. If I could get 55cm depth machine, I think even 7kg capacity will be more than enough for us. We hardly use half of 5.5 of the current machine. Plus we don't even leave house as like before. 7kg should give us 20-30% extra buffer for edge cases.
How about this? https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09KGY7S81 samsung 7kg but 55cm depth, 2022 model and no touch panel.
If possible, I'd like to avoid touch panel stuff because our current machine which has membrane panel had stopped working for more than 10 days this month because of the high humidity. But this is the time where we need the machine the most.
That thing had a membrane panel and we can't fix it. It's like thick sheet of plastic and buttons are sealed inside that sheet. Opening the membrane panel destroys it. First time, I soldered tactile buttons for regular functions like start/stop, time+ etc. But after a year the motherboard also went bad. Finally I shorted the relay which turns on microwave mode which made my oven to always start in microwave mode if you power it on. Used it for 5-6 years. The magnetron failed. Then I shorted the relay responsible for grill mode and sold it on OLX as grill only oven.The fix for a touch panel is like a keypad of a cordless phone. If you can access underneath the touch panel you can fix it the same way. Why not try to fix your LG oven?
That's always been the case. LG always been ahead in innovations. LG's always going to make more reliable products because Samsung is always ahead in terms of overall sales and brand perception. I have always seen that if someone's sitting at the helm doesn't try hard because they don't need to struggle (remember intel). It's usually #2 or #3 players trying to one up.My preference is for LG over Samsung because I think they've been in this business longer. LG's products don't look the most attractive but they work. Samsung will create a better impression in looks and even feel. Slam the door of a Samsung and its sounds solid compared to an LG. The industrial design is also better. But reliability depends on what's inside and I think LG with its emphasis on engineering over design wins out.
No panasonic. I don't think it has any service. I blocked that malhotra guy's channel. He lies a lot. He doesn't check the actual products but tells the viewers as if he did. He recommends any brand which gives him the most amazon affiliate commission.If you're looking for an alternative I saw Panasonic being mentioned by that Vineet Malhotra guy. It's not available in my city and I've no idea about service.
I think samsung has removed that ecobubble feature since 2021. Now, there's only soak button. Let's hope it also soaks for longer.My machine is a 7kg. So the older ones that are 55 litres should be ok. You asked about soaking, This machine has a 'bubble soak' option according to this review. I can actually read the options on the real machine whereas on amazon you only see icons. Apparently, it soaks for 30 minutes. Good enough? no need to fiddle with the power.
Mine's 20 ft above. So it's barely meeting 50kPa requirement. (50kPa = 0.5 bar pressure and 11 meters of water height creates 1 bar pressure. Mine is little over half bar). If new LG machines require 100kPa minimum then it's no good. For 100kPa or 1 bar pressure, the tank needs to be at 11 meters height. That's more than 3 storeys.Water pressure requirement is low. Least is 50kPa. My LG goes as low as 30kPa but all LG's these days start at 100kPa because they have steam wash and turbo wash. That means the tank must be at least two storeys above your machine. If it's 30kPa you can get away with tank above the machine. I think 50 is borderline.
The thing with sammy is the drum is sealed according to adder so if a bearings change is required it won't be possible later on. Otherwise looks good.
I won't say we live in a very humid place like mumbai. But we live at the ground floor and that means in heavy rains, the humidity meter is above 95%. If someone is living in apartment is my area, the humidity won't go above 80% during the same condition. The humidity is much more near the ground. Above 90% humidity for multiple days freezes electrical appliances like my current washing machine, induction cooker, microwave oven. I need at least washing machine running during high humidity days to dry the clothes. This is also why I'm replacing my current machine.Remember samsung machines have the spider arm that holds the drum made of aluminum. This corrodes with time and when it fails you have to change the whole assembly which includes the drum too. This costs about 7k for 6kg machine. Usually happens in about 5-6 years. My brother have to change it.
Now you understand yet my cousin back in 2011 thought a 45cm Samsung was perfectly acceptable for a household of 4 because it was 10k less than a 55cm. The sales guys always push the 45cm because they have a higher chance of a sale than something bigger. I've found people here ver the years insist on 45 cm because they don't have much to wash every day. Well, you will double your cycles with a smaller machine, this they do not realise. Saving 10k now only to repay 30k for a new machine some years later that you could put off for longer is a false economy.@blr_p: thanks again.
Today I went to see the front loaders in person. Man, 45cm depth machine have tiny drums. I'm glad I didn't rush with the purchase and asked here. If you hadn't told me I would have never known. There were some 7 and 8kg models from samsung, ifb with 55cm depth and their drums looked acceptable. I won't say big but yeah acceptable.
Bosch & IFB are belt driven. Panasonic too I think. Only the Koreans are direct drive. But Sammy does not mention direct drive yet Sammy's drum dimensions are the same as LG. Reliability from what I can see is better with the Koreans. One of the guys here had bearings problems with a Bosch in just 5 years. That is surprising. It means the bearings were built to a price point not a standard.I don't think anyone sales front loader with belt drive these days so motor is going to occupy some space too. Direct drive should be more reliable than belt drive. So I think this tradeoff is okay.
Check the LG touchpanel repair video posted earlier and see whether its the same as your oven. I don't think it is because the guy managed to fix it.That thing had a membrane panel and we can't fix it. It's like thick sheet of plastic and buttons are sealed inside that sheet. Opening the membrane panel destroys it. First time, I soldered tactile buttons for regular functions like start/stop, time+ etc. But after a year the motherboard also went bad. Finally I shorted the relay which turns on microwave mode which made my oven to always start in microwave mode if you power it on. Used it for 5-6 years. The magnetron failed. Then I shorted the relay responsible for grill mode and sold it on OLX as grill only oven.
That lady, Saumya's Samsung washer dryer did not cost more than 40k. Crazy. To get an LG equivalent you're looking at 55k or more. Same capacity and features. Why is the LG more? If it's an import from Korea then it will be still more at 80k. Sammy makes it locally. LG has to import.That's always been the case. LG always been ahead in innovations. LG's always going to make more reliable products because Samsung is always ahead in terms of overall sales and brand perception. I have always seen that if someone's sitting at the helm doesn't try hard because they don't need to struggle (remember intel). It's usually #2 or #3 players trying to one up.
His top pick was Bosch. Why the need for that exaggerated tone I don't know. Does it sound more credible? not to me. Sounds like a hustler. It's not affiliate commission from amazon with these guys which will be peanuts. They likely get an offer from companies to push their products.No panasonic. I don't think it has any service. I blocked that malhotra guy's channel. He lies a lot. He doesn't check the actual products but tells the viewers as if he did. He recommends any brand which gives him the most amazon affiliate commission.
Half hour, confirmed by that lady whose review I linked to. If you need longer then you'll have to pull the power or use a programmable switch.I think samsung has removed that ecobubble feature since 2021. Now, there's only soak button. Let's hope it also soaks for longer.
Mine is a second storey above. Little more than yours. @rdst_1 used to have this low-pressure water problem with his Bosch. He'd just restart the machine if it gave an error.Mine's 20 ft above. So it's barely meeting 50kPa requirement. (50kPa = 0.5 bar pressure and 11 meters of water height creates 1 bar pressure. Mine is little over half bar). If new LG machines require 100kPa minimum then it's no good. For 100kPa or 1 bar pressure, the tank needs to be at 11 meters height. That's more than 3 storeys.
I had to look this up. And it turns out you're incorrect. Humid air is less dense than dry air so humidity will be more higher up than at the ground floor. This has to be true else we'd have no rain because there'd be no clouds. Hence it is more humid higher up in the sky where the clouds are as that's where moisture accumulates.I won't say we live in a very humid place like mumbai. But we live at the ground floor and that means in heavy rains, the humidity meter is above 95%. If someone is living in apartment is my area, the humidity won't go above 80% during the same condition. The humidity is much more near the ground. Above 90% humidity for multiple days freezes electrical appliances like my current washing machine, induction cooker, microwave oven. I need at least washing machine running during high humidity days to dry the clothes. This is also why I'm replacing my current machine.
Saw some people from Bosnia saying they could do it.I read in a few places that bearings can be changed with sealed drums. It's already happening in poorer countries. We Indians are jugaadu too. We'll find a way.
My cousins Sammy 45cm FL was bought in 2011 and lasted till 2018 when they replaced it because it kept complaining the weight was too much. It was just 5.5kg. I don't know the reason it was replaced but they went with a Bosch because it had a higher kg rating.I personally don't have great experience of Samsung electronics. 2x TV, 1x fridge, 1x laptop were very bad (and no spares were available). Samsung CRT monitor and HDD were great though. 2 of my relatives have samsung top loading washing machines which are going super strong even after 10+ years. So I'm gonna take the blue pill this time. Plus, it doesn't look like I have many options.
It's not clear to me whether you are using the inbuilt heater with your LG FL or not. Since you have a solar water heater and thermostatic valve already.I should point out that I have the LG front load 8kg, which mentions the minimum pressure of 100kpa which is 10 meters or 33 feet tank height requirement.
But I ran mine with less then 10 feet of height (from the tap to the overhead tank outlet height) and there is no issues running it with such pressure.
The reason they say to use a 100kpa pressure is if you use the turbo function, where nozzle located in the drum door gasket spray water during the start of the cycle so that the cloths can get wet faster.
Once the clothes are wet. The nozzles or high water pressure serve no function.
Infact before I put a thermostatic valve to get hot water from solar, I used to pour hot water from solar from a tap located in bathroom to washing machine located else where via mug. I used to turn the washing machine cold tap a little, so that the machine doesn't chime the closed tap error and then pour the hot water via the detergent tray.
The machine only calculates the time taken for it to fill and if its really high it will give a closed tap error IE.
Pressure and flow are two separate things. I could in theory close the tap fully and just put a hose or a funnel in detergent tray and fill the machine with a bucket with zero pressure and get no error.
Inbuilt heater is not used in summer. In rain days its used.It's not clear to me whether you are using the inbuilt heater with your LG FL or not. Since you have a solar water heater and thermostatic valve already.
If you don't use the heater I don't think there will be an error.
But what if you do use the inbuilt heater then what is the result with the tank just overhead?
Full load volume is ~32 liters. Capacity is 5.8 kg. And in top load you get low quality wash if you fully load the machine.What is the size of your videcon top loader tub?
I have some experience of fixing gears and clutch of the current machine. If clutch goes and if there are no spares available then the machine becomes useless. Direct drive should be more reliable than belt system.Bosch & IFB are belt driven. Panasonic too I think. Only the Koreans are direct drive. But Sammy does not mention direct drive yet Sammy's drum dimensions are the same as LG. Reliability from what I can see is better with the Koreans.
Right. Ovens have different membrane keypads. These look like plastic stickers.Check the LG touchpanel repair video posted earlier and see whether its the same as your oven. I don't think it is because the guy managed to fix it.
I can assure you that it's not peanuts. It's much more than income from Google Adsense/adword income. I worked with such affiliate based SEO company. There's a whole world out there of affiliate based websites and videos.It's not affiliate commission from amazon with these guys which will be peanuts. They likely get an offer from companies to push their products.
That's good to know. If there's no such feature then I'd be pulling the plugs.Half hour, confirmed by that lady whose review I linked to.
Air density doesn't change (for a few storey height) a whole lot to affect the humidity that much.I had to look this up. And it turns out you're incorrect. Humid air is less dense than dry air so humidity will be more higher up than at the ground floor. This has to be true else we'd have no rain because there'd be no clouds. Hence it is more humid higher up in the sky where the clouds are as that's where moisture accumulates.
I'm on the ground floor of a house not appt and when it rains it says close to 80%. In fact this entire month I don't think I saw it go below 75%.
Story of my life. Nowadays, I don't even bother recommend them anything.I've learnt with family it does not matter what you recommend they will do whatever they want and then whine after
Yup. I have changed this sensor from my top loading machine. It's very sensitive. If you remove even a few liters of water, the machine knows.The way the waching machine knows its getting the water filled or not is via the pressure switch located near the heating element at the bottom of the plastic tub that contains the stainless steel drum. As the water gets filled inside, the air in the tube connecting the pressure switch to the tub, gets compressed which triggers the solonoid to shut off the incoming water.
IE error is the one i'm referring toInbuilt heater is not used in summer. In rain days its used.
The error I am taking about is IE error which comes on when water flow is less or when you forget to turn on the inlet tap or if the filter is clogged.
Tank overhead height as no effect on whether you use heater function or not.
What do you do if you get an IE error ? is there any workaround or is a pump the only solution?There is no sensor in any of the washing machine inlet, just a AC powered solonoid valve from there the water goes to detergent dispener and drops to the drum. In Lg machines with turbo function it also diverts from the solonoid valve to the orange nozzles in the door gasket top side.
The way the waching machine knows its getting the water filled or not is via the pressure switch located near the heating element at the bottom of the plastic tub that contains the stainless steel drum. As the water gets filled inside, the air in the tube connecting the pressure switch to the tub, gets compressed which triggers the solonoid to shut off the incoming water.
The MCU calculates the time it gave the signal to turn on the inlet solenoid valve to the time it recieves a signal from the pressure switch. If it takes too long to recieve the signal from the pressure switch it triggers a IE error code. So washing machines calculate the flow of water by using time as reference.
Impossible to do what you did with a sealed tank. The UKWG guys were complaining they could not even fish out a bra wire with these sealed tanks.One more thing is, Ever since people in the house started using fabric softners, the whirlpool machine pressure switch tube hole gets blocked. Thus far it has happened 2 times, since the last 7 or 8 years out of the 14 years the machine was in use. Prior to the 7 or 8 years of the machines life no fabric softner was used and no clogs.
This happens when excess fabric softner is used, or when people dump the softner in other compartments. Or when there is a long power cut during or before cycle was finished.
For clearing the gunk in pressure switch, you can blow compressed air in it for a quick fix, but that only clears the tube and can reoccur very soon.
So i remove the door gasket, then the plastic comparment screwed into the tub, that has a plastic hose nipple and air chamber that the rubber hose from the pressure switch is connected to. The amount of pink comfort softner gunk is unbelievable, the tub bottom is filled with that stuff.
Bingo! in addition to smell problems there are also these clogging issues to deal with and I don't think even cleaning with Vanish can address clearing of the pressure switch tube hole. It requires a dissemble to get access to that part. Maybe hot water, some patience and prayers might dislodge the clogging. Can't use boiling water because it might deform the plastic. I don't know if a boil wash or more is enough to do it. That's all a user can do.Its only after I showed them the gunk did people in the house stopped using that crap.
So this is why I suggest to use only powder detergent. It leaves a white residue but not the crappy gunk that the softner and potentially liquid detergents leave behind.
You moved fast. When it arrives, take a photo of the label on the box with the barcodes. It has a lot of info in one place that could be handy for later reference. Where it was made etc. This info you won't find anywhere else and we all get rid of that box. I usually send it back with the installers.I ordered that Samsung 7kg machine with 55 cm depth. Thanks to Amazon prime days sale, I got that machine at ~22.8k on Flipkart (after exchange + exchange discount + bank discount + prepaid discount). Same model was available at reliance digital at 31k. These local guys still using old tactics to fool customers saying online platform sale old and defective models etc. Anyway, whatever monies I save now will be used to replace drum/spider/bearing when it fails. It's like buying a volkswagen on a discount. Discount will eventually be used to replace DSG transmission once it fails.
I meant the tub only. Must be closer to 60LFull load volume is ~32 liters. Capacity is 5.8 kg. And in top load you get low quality wash if you fully load the machine.
Looks like a cheap part if you can find it. Did you have any luck contacting the LG service centre for it? they want part numbers for everything before they will entertain you.Right. Ovens have different membrane keypads. These look like plastic stickers.
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There's nothing behind this sticker. This sticker itself houses the buttons. It is glued to body of the oven. It's easy to replace but you need to get a spare.
Yes, that is there but companies give these guys kickback agreements when they review if they manage to sell x number of machines as a result of their videos at least for the bigger guys.I can assure you that it's not peanuts. It's much more than income from Google Adsense/adword income. I worked with such affiliate based SEO company. There's a whole world out there of affiliate based websites and videos.
I have a garden so there is space for water to collect but it does not stay long. Max I've seen is 80% when it is raining with the humidity meter placed outside.Air density doesn't change (for a few storey height) a whole lot to affect the humidity that much.
But then why am I claiming so much humidity? (I have 2 humidity monitors in the house)
At ground level, you have something around your house that you don't find for apartment house and that's ground. We have a lot ground around us. Rain falls on it. Soil saturates and after a point, water has nowhere to go but up. Practically it's like swimming tank surrounding your house. You don't have that going at 10th floor. My friend, who lives in same city and has the same humidity meter show him max humidity 75% at his 10th floor flat when for us it has practically reached 95%. Again this situation is super rare like once in 2 years. But it happens.
Agreed, which is why these machines won't allow you to fix their circuit boards. They will be covered with epoxy for longevity. All potted.Humidity does affect electrical items like I mentioned previously. Addition to that in my experience motherboards from asus are much more susceptible to humidity (lots of BSODs) compared to gigabyte and msi.
That's a good idea. I'll also measure the actual volume of the drum.You moved fast. When it arrives, take a photo of the label on the box with the barcodes. It has a lot of info in one place that could be handy for later reference. Where it was made etc. This info you won't find anywhere else and we all get rid of that box.
Full metal tub is closer to paltry 44L. I too thought top loading will have higher volume tub but measurements tell a different story.I meant the tub only. Must be closer to 60L
No fabric conditioner. No liquid detergent.And NO fabric conditioner !!! You have been warned.
That's plenty enough. 30L of FL is more than 30L of TL because TL should use much more water.The full load volume for your new FL is the same 30+ litres also btw.
They didn't have it. Companies makes 50 different versions of the same product. They can't maintain spares for all.Looks like a cheap part if you can find it. Did you have any luck contacting the LG service centre for it? they want part numbers for everything before they will entertain you.
Steam room should be beyond 100% humidity but yeah 95% makes everything sticky. Temperature was chilly 24 though. Humidity % is inversely proportional to temperature. Colder air gets saturated with water vapour very easily. Humidity % doesn't tell us how much water vapour there is in the air but how much capacity of the air been used to hold water vapour. As humidity approaches 100% the water becomes visible because air can't hold more water. At lower temperature you see dewing and at higher temperature you see visible steaming.95% is like being in a steam room. I guess the temperature must be a good ten degrees higher where you live.
The reason they could get IE error has to be due to their plumbing, the pipes can be choked with dirt, or if its galvanized pipes rust built up would have further reduced flow, choked filters in the washing machine inlet or in the tap outlet.What do you do if you get an IE error ? is there any workaround or is a pump the only solution?
I'm not able to figure out why some people need a pump like @technofast whereas you and @tech.addict are perfectly fine without one.
.Impossible to do what you did with a sealed tank. The UKWG guys were complaining they could not even fish out a bra wire with these sealed tanks
Nothing really just a regular thermostatic valve and solar water heater.I really think you should make a post about your solar water heater and thermostatic valve setup. This ought to be the default washing/home setup for everyone as it saves on heating costs and gives the best results whether front or top loader
Has to be legible so ensure its tack sharp in the photo. Could come in handy for service later on when they ask which model machine you have.That's a good idea. I'll also measure the actual volume of the drum.
So if you were using a full load of 32L then out of 44L you were loading at 70%. I think max loading on a top loader should remain 50-60%. Less wear and tear on the clothes and you get some wash action. Meaning the clothes move around. No wash action then cleaning won't be good. I find almost nobody that reviews a top loader will show me what the wash action is like. They don't even know what it means. But if you put some coloured socks in a load of whites you should see those socks move around in a timelapse video. If they do not then either you overloaded it or the machine just does not have very good wash action, to begin with. Or you chose the wrong program for the wash.Full metal tub is closer to paltry 44L. I too thought top loading will have higher volume tub but measurements tell a different story.
So much for their vaunted service then. It's just bad engineering design. Planned obsolescenceThey didn't have it. Companies makes 50 different versions of the same product. They can't maintain spares for all.
Yes colder air gets saturated easier but warmer air holds more. A given volume of air at 20 degrees holds twice as much as at 10 degrees.Steam room should be beyond 100% humidity but yeah 95% makes everything sticky. Temperature was chilly 24 though. Humidity % is inversely proportional to temperature. Colder air gets saturated with water vapour very easily. Humidity % doesn't tell us how much water vapour there is in the air but how much capacity of the air been used to hold water vapour. As humidity approaches 100% the water becomes visible because air can't hold more water. At lower temperature you see dewing and at higher temperature you see visible steaming.
Well, it was with the Bosch WM when I needed that pump. I'm in the top floor and the overhead tank is some 60mts away from where the WM was placed. The water flow was normal from the tap and a 20ltr bucket can be filled within a minute but when it came to this Bosch WM it was always finicky and throws up IE error. I had to install this pressure pump to over come this situation and then as you know the drum/bearing problem happened and the rest is history. I have not faced this problem with LG for the couple of years I have been using the front loader. Surprisingly I was able to use the LG WM with a contingency tank placed inside my house and it worked perfectly even with very low pressure.IE error is the one i'm referring to
What do you do if you get an IE error ? is there any workaround or is a pump the only solution?
I'm not able to figure out why some people need a pump like @technofast whereas you and @tech.addict are perfectly fine without one.
German products are unreliable. They are like high maintenance girlfriend. They only do their best for lab ideal conditions. They are not tested in the real world. You need to constantly treat them to keep them in functioning order. They lack Asian - shut it forget it attitude.Well, it was with the Bosch WM when I needed that pump. I'm in the top floor and the overhead tank is some 60mts away from where the WM was placed. The water flow was normal from the tap and a 20ltr bucket can be filled within a minute but when it came to this Bosch WM it was always finicky and throws up IE error. I had to install this pressure pump to over come this situation and then as you know the drum/bearing problem happened and the rest is history. I have not faced this problem with LG for the couple of years I have been using the front loader. Surprisingly I was able to use the LG WM with a contingency tank placed inside my house and it worked perfectly even with very low pressure.
We don't load it fully but if we did then that's the of the full load water level. It's not easy to see action washing action on top loading washing machines because top lid isn't fully transparent and if you open the lid, the machine stops. I have disabled the lid ajar sensor on my machine though.So if you were using a full load of 32L then out of 44L you were loading at 70%. I think max loading on a top loader should remain 50-60%. Less wear and tear on the clothes and you get some wash action. Meaning the clothes move around. No wash action then cleaning won't be good. I find almost nobody that reviews a top loader will show me what the wash action is like.
Exactly. That's why I don't like to buy expensive TVs, mobiles etc or any stuff that shouldn't need maintenance. Because when expensive gadgets need maintenance they cost the price of another such new device. My 2x chinese smart TVs have been bullet proof reliable compared to my 2x samsung dumb TVs. All mobiles in the house are chinese origin and never needed any maintenance apart from the battery change. Some still give more than enough battery backup even after 6+ years. Current oven is from Godrej which hasn't requried any service unlike our last oven which was from LG which needed some part replacement just a few months into the warranty. And it's not like we keep buying new stuff. We, rather keep using stuff until it breaks totally and can't be repaired anymore.So much for their vaunted service then. It's just bad engineering design. Planned obsolescence
No rivers nearby. It's mostly dry but there comes a situation once every few years when you have continuous rain for a few days. That's when the humidity get that high.24 is like the weather I have. I don't know why it went as high as 95%. Are there any rivers nearby where you live or open water bodies ? In places like Cal this is a real problem.
How well a top loader agitates clothes is down to impeller diameter to tub diameter ratio. The larger that is the more the clothes will turnover. So it follows the larger the impeller is in relation to the tub the better the wash action or turning clothes over will be.We don't load it fully but if we did then that's the of the full load water level. It's not easy to see action washing action on top loading washing machines because top lid isn't fully transparent and if you open the lid, the machine stops. I have disabled the lid ajar sensor on my machine though.
I had that a few weeks ago. Rained every evening and it's that kind of rain that goes on all night long.No rivers nearby. It's mostly dry but there comes a situation once every few years when you have continuous rain for a few days. That's when the humidity get that high.
Yup, I know. That's why I said full load is pointless and much less washing quality.
Without using front loading machine even once I can tell you the washing quality is going to be better on the front loader. Top loaders aren't that great with big load. And not to mention, if any of your clothes is less dense, it'll keep floating to top.Now if only half the load gets you the best wash then you need a pretty big top loader to get clothes as clean as a smaller front loader. So the cost argument of top loaders versus front loaders needs to be reviewed if we're talking wash quality.
It means the minimum tub size to consider for a top loader is 60L if you expect to clean anything more than normal soil.Yup, I know. That's why I said full load is pointless and much less washing quality.
What if you put in a laundry bag with some heavier items. That should weigh it down. If it floats its a delicate and should be put in a laundry bag anyway.Without using front loading machine even once I can tell you the washing quality is going to be better on the front loader. Top loaders aren't that great with big load. And not to mention, if any of your clothes is less dense, it'll keep floating to top.
If @adder wants to avoid this problem he should use the app to configure the machine.Avoid LG front loaders with touchscreen panels as they're known to fail. Search LG touchscreen problem on youtube for more details.