tantrikt
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Probably they are running out of pcs in their offices because all the 13th and 14th gen processors they installed...melted
Intel breaks silence on 13th and 14th-gen Raptor Lake desktop CPU instability issues
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may be AI effect,
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it's really pity to see that Intel still didn't improve in RMA, 15-16 yrs. back, they replace a year old board (with 3 yrs. warranty) with old/used/heavy scratched board and that too with No I/O Plate for that replaced board. When I asked for I/O plate they bluntly refused to provide any ( somewhere in Chennai/Bangalore base service Center) and that forced me to sell a year old Intel system at loss.
From then never trust on Intel warranty but on sellers warranty, also good that Intel Stop producing boards.
Official post by Intel employee, they're planning to extend warranty by 2 years. 2 probably isn't enough, but it is something at least.
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Have been running hwinfo64 for a day now, max core VID (voltage requested by the CPU) is 1.415v, max reported by the motherboard Vcore sensor is 1.385v. This is assuring as while these sensors won't catch the transients, it is unlikely to go up by 100mv+ from the requested values. The Asus bios also lists out the V/F points, and my CPU can reach rated 5.4Ghz with 1.384v, not great, not terrible (fingers crossed).
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Yes, although in addition to that, I wish they would have given a way to identify the CPUs impacted by the oxidation issue and replaced them.
I'd say don't apply the patch, wait for your CPU to shows signs of instability and RMA it.
Intel is deliberately withholding the batch numbers of the affected CPUs in hopes that applying the patch might hide partial degradation and make it last just beyond than the total 5 year warranty. Every defective CPU they don't replace is extra profit for them
Intel is deliberately withholding the batch numbers of the affected CPUs in hopes that applying the patch might hide partial degradation and make it last just beyond than the total 5 year warranty. Every defective CPU they don't replace is extra profit for them
Yes but we will have to wait and see the terms of extended warranty. They may force application of the microcode patch without which they will not entertain.
If am not mistaken, Intel's provided microcode will exist as part of operating system, so how will they come to know whether microcode is applied or not ?
Also, how can one avoid applying microcode if it's provided through Windows updates, etc. ?
First search result itself -
How to Find the Microcode Version Currently Running on your Processor
Give instructions for using the Intel® Processor Identification Utility to determine the microcode version currently running on your processor.
www.intel.com
An overnight Cinebench loop with old BIOS should destroy any CPU. I guess everyone should have at least a year of the original 3 year warranty left.
The core issue is Intel hiding the fact who might be affected, and who will end up with a nerfed CPU/reduced usable life. In that case, it's better to RMA and get a new CPU altogether. Which is what they should have done.
This info made me search a bit more, looks like they push it through BIOS, Windows OS patches, etc.First search result itself -
How to Find the Microcode Version Currently Running on your Processor
Give instructions for using the Intel® Processor Identification Utility to determine the microcode version currently running on your processor.
Microcode Update Guidance
Details, instructions, and debugging information for system administrators applying microcode updates to Intel® processors
www.intel.com
Still doubts exists whether this is temporary or permanent on CPU. As of now, my understanding is that it's temporary.
In my understanding, if your CPU is not degraded, an all core load will not accelerate the process, as all core loads typically see lower voltages (stock config, all core boosts are lower due to higher current requirement and thermal limit).
It's only when the CPU is boosting one particular core(or lightly threaded) to achieve the highest clocks, and has the thermal headroom to achieve that, degradation can occur due to higher voltages.
Cinebench does single core benchmarks as well, I should have specified that, thanks.
If you set the affinity, you can select which core you want to run the stress test on.
Looking forward to Gamer Nexus' take on this. I'm sure someone will write an app to do this automatically. I mean this is what we were trying to avoid when OCing manually.
If you set the affinity, you can select which core you want to run the stress test on.
Looking forward to Gamer Nexus' take on this. I'm sure someone will write an app to do this automatically. I mean this is what we were trying to avoid when OCing manually.
I don't think they are that stupid and this extended warranty is more of a saving grace than anything. Let's wait for the extended warranty terms to become clear.
Someone needs to look at the existing warranty terms as well if what you are saying is even covered. Folks would not want to be left with a lemon without any option for replacement. If you are looking to do that, please do share your RMA experience here.
If by temporary you mean, can they overwrite the previous with a new one, then yes, of course. They do that all the time.
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Overclocking has always voided warranty, no need for separate terms under extended warranty.
A safe OC cannot be detected outside the mobo it was OCd on.
PS: I'm not actually directing anyone to kill their CPUs. Just pointing out that Intel can't tell when the degradation occurred, only if it occurred or not. Let's wait and see how things unroll
Edit: IIRC simply activating XMP voids CPU warranty.
A safe OC cannot be detected outside the mobo it was OCd on.
PS: I'm not actually directing anyone to kill their CPUs. Just pointing out that Intel can't tell when the degradation occurred, only if it occurred or not. Let's wait and see how things unroll
Edit: IIRC simply activating XMP voids CPU warranty.
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meduvada
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i had similar experience with skulltrail motherboard. buggy and unstable af, died within a month, when asked for replacement they issued an old board which didn't even boot
Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs get two additional years of warranty coverage
This should mean that most affected CPUs will have a 5-year warranty.
www.theverge.com
Ah, my idea was microcode (or it's version number) does not exist physically on cpu, but in BIOS or OS.
It's loaded during boot time, CPU forgets the whole thing once system is shut down.
For those who are keen on RMA !!!
"Intel has denied two of my 14900K RMAs (instability) and stated they will confiscate or destroy them if I proceed with the warranty process."
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